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"S0RCERER""MAKKIE"Why is it a problem if low levels have 4th? How is it game breaking? firstly the bans and stat removals were for exploitation of mobs that were bugged, these mobs spawn and there are no rules regarding using them for skilling up and as there is no dedicated spawn of delivery guards it takes 1 person to come and kill it then its a long wait till the next spawns. so if you want to cry about people skilling, kill the mob, if they are afk they will stand like an idiot, pk them just for the hell of it
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[quote="CHAKRA"][quote="S0RCERER"][quote="MAKKIE"]Why is it a problem if low levels have 4th? How is it game breaking?
Does anyone hunt with 4th, except axers? Even then what impact does it have? Speeds up their hunting a little bit until they time they'd originally get 4th, by which point they'd be equal with everyone else?[/quote]
The fact that humans were BANNED and had stats removed for the exact same behaviour (Skilling and training CON whilst AFK on a monster that's not intended for skilling or whilst AFK) shows that it obviously has an impact.
First of all, you receive damage benefits from having higher skill.
Secondly, the point in having auras spaced out by Skill is so that you have a path of progression.
As there's pretty much no dynamic to leveling on Dsoma aside training your class' weapon, it's even more of a "big deal" than it is on Hsoma.[/quote]
firstly the bans and stat removals were for exploitation of mobs that were bugged, these mobs spawn and there are no rules regarding using them for skilling up and as there is no dedicated spawn of delivery guards it takes 1 person to come and kill it then its a long wait till the next spawns.
so if you want to cry about people skilling, kill the mob, if they are afk they will stand like an idiot, pk them just for the hell of it
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#16 2014/03/06 09:41:21 |
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"CHAKRA"pk them just for the hell of it They spawn inside the town. |
#17 2014/03/06 10:32:45 |
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"S0RCERER""CHAKRA"pk them just for the hell of it and they are generally pulled outside of town in an attempt to keep higher levels from nuking them |
#18 2014/03/06 10:40:46 |
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this isnt much different from when hsoma had ghouls in abyss on esoma? yeah you could skill to 4th bow but you still have no str/dex so not really a game changer;o
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#19 2014/03/10 23:12:31 |
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"ACE"this isnt much different from when hsoma had ghouls in abyss on esoma? yeah you could skill to 4th bow but you still have no str/dex so not really a game changer;o Ghouls were effectively more game-breaking than skill delivery guards because you could get con from them! but oh noes Neoxian and S0rc care so much that a level 30 wasted 100+ hours skilling to get 4th.
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[quote="CHAKRA"][quote="ACE"]this isnt much different from when hsoma had ghouls in abyss on esoma? yeah you could skill to 4th bow but you still have no str/dex so not really a game changer;o[/quote]
Ghouls were effectively more game-breaking than skill delivery guards because you could get con from them! but oh noes Neoxian and S0rc care so much that a level 30 wasted 100+ hours skilling to get 4th.
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#20 2014/03/11 12:23:11 |
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"CHAKRA"but oh noes Neoxian and S0rc care so much that a level 30 wasted 100+ hours skilling to get 4th. Was simply stating the difference in stance between two nigh-identical situations. Nobody is "wasting" 100+ hours of skilling when you get it whilst you're AFK at 2x the speed at the expense of no % lost.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="CHAKRA"]but oh noes Neoxian and S0rc care so much that a level 30 wasted 100+ hours skilling to get 4th.[/quote]
Was simply stating the difference in stance between two nigh-identical situations.
Nobody is "wasting" 100+ hours of skilling when you get it whilst you're AFK at 2x the speed at the expense of no % lost. [/quote]
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#21 2014/03/11 16:57:33 |
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"CHAKRA""ACE"this isnt much different from when hsoma had ghouls in abyss on esoma? yeah you could skill to 4th bow but you still have no str/dex so not really a game changer;o 1. Posting on a store is retarded. 2. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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[quote="NOTMAT"][quote="CHAKRA"][quote="ACE"]this isnt much different from when hsoma had ghouls in abyss on esoma? yeah you could skill to 4th bow but you still have no str/dex so not really a game changer;o[/quote]
Ghouls were effectively more game-breaking than skill delivery guards because you could get con from them! but oh noes Neoxian and S0rc care so much that a level 30 wasted 100+ hours skilling to get 4th.
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1. Posting on a store is retarded.
2. You have no idea what you're talking about.[/quote]
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#22 2014/03/11 17:14:12 |
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CHAKRA |
You make such a valid argument mat.. Oh wait
Do you honestly consider these mobs to be more game breaking than toxic ghouls on esoma? |
#23 2014/03/11 21:37:57 |
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"CHAKRA"You make such a valid argument mat.. Oh wait Fantastic. Anyway, I'll just say say this and see what you think: My devil was level 43(Axe) with exactly 80 skill. Whilst I was getting on with shit around my house I went from 80-120 skill in 4 days. No potting or doing anything, all I had to do was change T-axes every 2k dura. With a mob completely to myself it would last me at least 6 hours. Need I remind you they spawn every T1, don't give XP and spawn in town so I can still gain rested whilst doing sweet fuck all.
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[quote="NOTMAT"][quote="CHAKRA"]You make such a valid argument mat.. Oh wait
Do you honestly consider these mobs to be more game breaking than toxic ghouls on esoma?[/quote]
Fantastic.
Anyway, I'll just say say this and see what you think:
My devil was level 43(Axe) with exactly 80 skill. Whilst I was getting on with shit around my house I went from 80-120 skill in 4 days. No potting or doing anything, all I had to do was change T-axes every 2k dura. With a mob completely to myself it would last me at least 6 hours. Need I remind you they spawn every T1, don't give XP and spawn in town so I can still gain rested whilst doing sweet fuck all.[/quote]
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#24 2014/03/12 04:31:50 |
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"NOTMAT""CHAKRA"You make such a valid argument mat.. Oh wait Toxic ghouls damage was pretty much nothing by wearing an anti poison bracelet, and you didn't have auto click so you had to pin down your mouse button. Difference being you could go to them from level 1 and could completely afk it because you don't need to skill a weapon just get con. The fact that your on this forum post complaining about people "abusing" the guards and you yourself have done it speaks volumes.
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[quote="CHAKRA"][quote="NOTMAT"][quote="CHAKRA"]You make such a valid argument mat.. Oh wait
Do you honestly consider these mobs to be more game breaking than toxic ghouls on esoma?[/quote]
Fantastic.
Anyway, I'll just say say this and see what you think:
My devil was level 43(Axe) with exactly 80 skill. Whilst I was getting on with shit around my house I went from 80-120 skill in 4 days. No potting or doing anything, all I had to do was change T-axes every 2k dura. With a mob completely to myself it would last me at least 6 hours. Need I remind you they spawn every T1, don't give XP and spawn in town so I can still gain rested whilst doing sweet fuck all.[/quote]
Toxic ghouls damage was pretty much nothing by wearing an anti poison bracelet, and you didn't have auto click so you had to pin down your mouse button.
Difference being you could go to them from level 1 and could completely afk it because you don't need to skill a weapon just get con.
The fact that your on this forum post complaining about people "abusing" the guards and you yourself have done it speaks volumes.
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#25 2014/03/12 09:16:48 |
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"CHAKRA" This isn't esoma... I was complaining before I even touched the mobs. The only reason I decided to skill up on them was because clearly nothing was going to change based on the posts here from Ghostlord and the length of time they've already been in the game. Why would I not when I can just half afk at them for 4 days whilst still gaining rested and getting on with stuff irl?
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[quote="NOTMAT"][quote="CHAKRA"]
Toxic ghouls damage was pretty much nothing by wearing an anti poison bracelet, and you didn't have auto click so you had to pin down your mouse button.
Difference being you could go to them from level 1 and could completely afk it because you don't need to skill a weapon just get con.
The fact that your on this forum post complaining about people "abusing" the guards and you yourself have done it speaks volumes.
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This isn't esoma...
I was complaining before I even touched the mobs. The only reason I decided to skill up on them was because clearly nothing was going to change based on the posts here from Ghostlord and the length of time they've already been in the game.
Why would I not when I can just half afk at them for 4 days whilst still gaining rested and getting on with stuff irl?[/quote]
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#26 2014/03/12 17:02:15 |
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"NOTMAT""CHAKRA" At best they will be moved out of town if it's up to me. And why not afk? Just because people are too lazy to report doesn't mean people'll accept it now. I myself will continue to report anyone I find afk at the guards.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="NOTMAT"][quote="CHAKRA"]
Toxic ghouls damage was pretty much nothing by wearing an anti poison bracelet, and you didn't have auto click so you had to pin down your mouse button.
Difference being you could go to them from level 1 and could completely afk it because you don't need to skill a weapon just get con.
The fact that your on this forum post complaining about people "abusing" the guards and you yourself have done it speaks volumes.
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This isn't esoma...
I was complaining before I even touched the mobs. The only reason I decided to skill up on them was because clearly nothing was going to change based on the posts here from Ghostlord and the length of time they've already been in the game.
Why would I not when I can just half afk at them for 4 days whilst still gaining rested and getting on with stuff irl?[/quote]
At best they will be moved out of town if it's up to me. And why not afk? Just because people are too lazy to report doesn't mean people'll accept it now. I myself will continue to report anyone I find afk at the guards.[/quote]
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#27 2014/03/13 10:23:26 |
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