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[quote="LUPISCUS"]@ tyro i see u omit the dev archers dex..and the att on their bows..... My point is. Yes if 3-4 humans came per 1 dev player , then things might be basically fair or 'equal' .. BUT ..atm theres almost = numbers of human and capped dev players.. and..as the gear and stats are atm...Humans have no effin chance! Its been like this for a long long time.... i aint moaning..coz i never go the cont. But when things have been equalled out a bit..then mayb. Just trying to put a fairly obvious perspective on things. Humans, including myself, are busy trying to get some drops and make some gear... Going to ss or wotw to get annhialated isnt really top of our 'to - do - list'[/quote]

[quote="TYROZET"]If you don't go to any wars then you have no justification to your post as you have no experience [/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]i went wotw 2-3 nights ago.... and ss couple of weeks ago...so i do... and what dex do your archers have? 120-130+ att on bows? 2x that of humans? come on be serious[/quote]

[quote="ARYA_"]dev archer has 212 dex and tbh has 2 much wis and an op hit rate, but you cant base dsoma purely on archers.[/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="ARYA_"]dev archer has 212 dex and tbh has 2 much wis and an op hit rate, but you cant base dsoma purely on archers.[/quote] 212 dex ... 130 att bows..and most devs are archers.... surely u can see the reluctance of humans to participate ..considering the dev population is similar to that of humans. Not blaming or saying its ur fault.. good for you.. its just how things are..and oomies dont like an ass kicking so easily [/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"][quote="ARYA_"]dev archer has 212 dex and tbh has 2 much wis and an op hit rate, but you cant base dsoma purely on archers.[/quote] And you guys can't base humans purely on the small handful of capped mages with full maxed proc gear This toon has 120 int. Meaning the base MA with DB is 174-174 without any equipment. As mentioned before, archers have 133 MD meaning an unweaked archer would only take 41 damage from me... 82 if a weaken is on. That's if i can actually get a cast off[/quote]

[quote="ARYA_"]you have more int then I have wis, so you can beat me, you cant blame dsoma because you geared your chars for pvp not rvr, that's your issue try teaming up and using discord etc to help call targets etc, its not hard come on, you can have 200 int and 200 str and that's enough to smash anyone as you can stone with that.[/quote]

[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"][quote="ARYA_"]you have more int then I have wis, so you can beat me, you cant blame dsoma because you geared your chars for pvp not rvr,[/quote] I leveled this toon up for pve in all honestly :P With the wis thing, i only have 91 wis so your mages hurt me too :P[/quote]

[quote="ARYA_"]my human was the same tbh but if I was to do it again id build for rvr as that's more fun then all the guild politics[/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]Just want to comment on the whole D4 and GDG thing. Firstly. GDG is a legacy trail for Esoma for the [b]then[/b] end game drops. The journey there only gets more and more difficult and then GDG itself is at the right difficulty for what would be a group hunt for those succeeding those mobs. Conti and Wotw then usurped GDG but only slightly with new items. Though was still used. If you intend to replace GDG with the Grand version. Please consider not entirely replacing the Great DG but simply creating a back door to the dungeon for level 100s+ and a ring fenced part of D4 for the spawn of the Grand DG and a hellish group fight to lead upto it. Or something. Or have Grand DG spawn in a open but separate location. Or create another dungeon, a mirror with 4x the difficult of mobs. Again, a mountain for groups to climb but exploitable with weathers...[/quote]

[quote="FOXTRCK"]Or we'll go along with the Grand DG being at D4 stairs :D Nice job btw and thanks for not removing the Great DG spawns.[/quote]

[quote="WIIDEVLAR"]I love the fact that all humans seem to forget that 100% of them that show can/do hit a devil... even a lvl 1 human with lvl 1 fireball will hit a devil (granted for 1 dmg). As a devil char (other then archers and Mage) we need to get in close to you before we can even hit you (remember melle hits can miss where if u get cast off magic will not miss) so even on a 1 v 1 u will/should get more hits off (not devils problem most of u don't use tactics I.e use feathers to move n cast etc) and means the only real damage from devil side is by 2 class. As a (capped) axer I get 1 hit by a few magies (granted I'm set up FOR pvp/pve NOT rvr) and 2-3 hit by a Melle human who is useing int (and I don't even mean with weaken). Meaning I need to be with an archer to stop/slow ur casting or probs 7/10 of you would have killled me before I even get to close enuff to hit you. The biggest problem with rvr is simply the main human community. You would rather abuse one and other insted of try to work with the ppl around you (am not saying everyone)... it's simple if you can't put ur guild/player rivalry to one side 1 night a week and devils can they you SHOULD NEVER WIN IT! Dose 1 player win the gvw? NO! It's the team work that dose.... it's as simple as that. Will say this is my 1st ever devil and the only reason I moved to devil is the human community can be so vile on this server it's not worth playing. So seen it 1st hand from human side you would prefer to argue with each other in tyt rarther then go to wotw in the 1st place. P.s If devils get any more nurffing then I will simply be deleting the game or use it as a chat room like i do with my human from time to time. P.p.s apologies if any of this don't make sense/dodgy spelling I am dyslexic. [/quote]

[quote="WIIDEVLAR"]Ah n 1 thing just on the podcast it's self. It is a good thing and I take my hat of to you for putting in the time to do it but think it seems to bias to helping humans n few of ur guests are even more bias about ideas that's more for them then the community but try playing it of as helps everyone (it's nearly more like saying 'my way is the way everyone should play'). And we all know everyone likes there own way of playing... (Not great example but) I.e I am in guild that a lot of ppl like pking but I don't so I don't pk even when guildies ask me to come.(naw days if pker hits me or cast towards me I'll try stand my ground). And yet you will never here me complain about my shocking K/D (lik1 to 100 lol) in fact if anything I'm the 1st to laugh about it. That's just my way of playing. P.s I've probs listened to maybe 6/7 out of 12 podcasts (partly for this reason)[/quote]

[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="WIIDEVLAR"]Ah n 1 thing just on the podcast it's self. It is a good thing and I take my hat of to you for putting in the time to do it but think it seems to bias to helping humans n few of ur guests are even more bias about ideas that's more for them then the community but try playing it of as helps everyone (it's nearly more like saying 'my way is the way everyone should play'). And we all know everyone likes there own way of playing... (Not great example but) I.e I am in guild that a lot of ppl like pking but I don't so I don't pk even when guildies ask me to come.(naw days if pker hits me or cast towards me I'll try stand my ground). And yet you will never here me complain about my shocking K/D (lik1 to 100 lol) in fact if anything I'm the 1st to laugh about it. That's just my way of playing. P.s I've probs listened to maybe 6/7 out of 12 podcasts (partly for this reason)[/quote] I personally don't play dsoma and have only briefly been on as a dev at wotw - so i can't comment or bring up issues i don't personally have. I don't know if you are referring to me in regards to being bias - If so this saddens me i genuinely want the server to improve and the UC to increase. [/quote]

[quote="WIIDEVLAR"]@deamond please don't take it personally it's nothing to do with any one person or any one comment. Was purely an over few fell about the podcast fell more like a "myth of of soma human world podcast' (that in it's self is not a bad thing) TBH I run my own sales company and am very sussesfull at very targeted advertising so might just be that coming out of me. As I said it is a good thing and I also pm'd after the very 1st one just saying good job and hope it helps hold ppl / bring them back to the game.[/quote]