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Strength over 200

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Spelunk,

I am over 165, before the patch I was gaining 0.1 per 3.60 exp; now it is 7.00% per 0.1 dex (Boars, trolls)

I am looking to learn what happened to STR at 200+

Thanks

Prowler

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[quote="PROWLER"]Spelunk, I am over 165, before the patch I was gaining 0.1 per 3.60 exp; now it is 7.00% per 0.1 dex (Boars, trolls) I am looking to learn what happened to STR at 200+ Thanks Prowler [/quote]
"PROWLER"Spelunk,

I am over 165, before the patch I was gaining 0.1 per 3.60 exp; now it is 7.00% per 0.1 dex (Boars, trolls)

I am looking to learn what happened to STR at 200+

Thanks

Prowler



It should be 7+% per dex for you anyway as you're in 0.5x multiplier. Str slowdowns after 171 have 0 effect on the rate of dex gained (i.e. 0.1 dex takes the same % at 199.9 str and 200.1 str)
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[quote="SPELUNK"][quote="PROWLER"]Spelunk, I am over 165, before the patch I was gaining 0.1 per 3.60 exp; now it is 7.00% per 0.1 dex (Boars, trolls) I am looking to learn what happened to STR at 200+ Thanks Prowler [/quote] It should be 7+% per dex for you anyway as you're in 0.5x multiplier. Str slowdowns after 171 have 0 effect on the rate of dex gained (i.e. 0.1 dex takes the same % at 199.9 str and 200.1 str)[/quote]
With knucks

currently 137.4 dex and 197.8 str i'm gaining 0.1 dex at about 3.6% and str at just under 7%

I'm back at boars til I hit 200 str, but the gains were the same when i tried trolls last night
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[quote="ALEXISONFIRE"]With knucks currently 137.4 dex and 197.8 str i'm gaining 0.1 dex at about 3.6% and str at just under 7% I'm back at boars til I hit 200 str, but the gains were the same when i tried trolls last night[/quote]
if its been nerfed though then doesnt that mean all chars pre patch will now be better than any char made after patch release? since Dex has been nerfed?
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[quote="NIGESHI"]if its been nerfed though then doesnt that mean all chars pre patch will now be better than any char made after patch release? since Dex has been nerfed?[/quote]
Spelunk,

I have no clue what you mean. Before the patch I was getting dex at 3.60% and after the patch it is 7.0% - I was over 165dex pre-patch and it was 3.60% then. When the patch came in it doubled. It has nothing to do with the amount of dex I had pre-patch.

I simply want to know if that happened to STR at 200 too.


Nigeshi,
No. If DEX got a 100% nerf and STR didn't it means that high dex chars pre-patch have been shafted. If STR got nerfed too (also 100%) then if means there will be a balancing of str/dex and all the chars will be heading for the same end result (regardless of whether they make it or not at level 120).

I simply want to know what the difference between STR gains is at 199.9 and 200.1 (axe or spear would be ideal)


Prowler
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[quote="PROWLER"]Spelunk, I have no clue what you mean. Before the patch I was getting dex at 3.60% and after the patch it is 7.0% - I was over 165dex pre-patch and it was 3.60% then. When the patch came in it doubled. It has nothing to do with the amount of dex I had pre-patch. I simply want to know if that happened to STR at 200 too. Nigeshi, No. If DEX got a 100% nerf and STR didn't it means that high dex chars pre-patch have been shafted. If STR got nerfed too (also 100%) then if means there will be a balancing of str/dex and all the chars will be heading for the same end result (regardless of whether they make it or not at level 120). I simply want to know what the difference between STR gains is at 199.9 and 200.1 (axe or spear would be ideal) Prowler [/quote]
At 200 str the % required for stats goes up be it dex or str. To g8ve varied builds
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[quote="FRINGE"]At 200 str the % required for stats goes up be it dex or str. To g8ve varied builds[/quote]
Does the exp per 0.1 STR double?
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[quote="PROWLER"]Does the exp per 0.1 STR double?[/quote]
You have a misunderstanding of how this works. I tried explaining it but you won't listen nor answer my question (what STR did you have not what dex).
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[quote="SPELUNK"]You have a misunderstanding of how this works. I tried explaining it but you won't listen nor answer my question (what STR did you have not what dex).[/quote]
STR is under 171.

It doesn't alter the fact that Experience for 0.1 DEX doubled after the patch. This was an immediate doubling and I was not on a conveniently rounded number.

Before the patch, I was achieving 0.1 DEX per 3.60% experience all through level 110

The patch happened

The first shot I fired (like everyone else who was capped) toppled the level onto 111

Then I was getting 0.1 DEX per 7.00% experience from the same mobs AND the new trolls when I tried them.

Since other players who were level 111 were reporting DEX gains at 3.52% per 0.1 (with slightly lower DEX) I seem only to be able to conclude that DEX for higher characters has been nerfed. I don't see any alternative to this - I did ask earlier in the thread.

What I would like to know is this;

Has the % experience for 0.1 STR doubled (per se) after 200 STR?

If it has not then my character is a total write off and is wasted.

If there is a doubling, then I have to decide if I want to pursue a character that will likely end up very similar to other builds but with less INT.

Prowler



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[quote="PROWLER"]STR is under 171. It doesn't alter the fact that Experience for 0.1 DEX doubled after the patch. This was an immediate doubling and I was not on a conveniently rounded number. Before the patch, I was achieving 0.1 DEX per 3.60% experience all through level 110 The patch happened The first shot I fired (like everyone else who was capped) toppled the level onto 111 Then I was getting 0.1 DEX per 7.00% experience from the same mobs AND the new trolls when I tried them. Since other players who were level 111 were reporting DEX gains at 3.52% per 0.1 (with slightly lower DEX) I seem only to be able to conclude that DEX for higher characters has been nerfed. I don't see any alternative to this - I did ask earlier in the thread. What I would like to know is this; Has the % experience for 0.1 STR doubled (per se) after 200 STR? If it has not then my character is a total write off and is wasted. If there is a doubling, then I have to decide if I want to pursue a character that will likely end up very similar to other builds but with less INT. Prowler [/quote]
We have not touched dex gains. Remember slow downs up until 171.

New mobs aka Enraged boar or Hellish Troll are fixed at 100% gains meaning no bonus for hunting them early.

Remember dex is based on your str and Before 171 str your dex is directly effected by str.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]We have not touched dex gains. Remember slow downs up until 171. New mobs aka Enraged boar or Hellish Troll are fixed at 100% gains meaning no bonus for hunting them early. Remember dex is based on your str and Before 171 str your dex is directly effected by str. [/quote]
"ISYLVER"We have not touched dex gains. Remember slow downs up until 171.


165.3 dex ......

There have been no DEX slows at all during the run up to that (last one was 95 dex I think)

The last dex gain immediately before hitting level cap was 3.60% exp (BLGs)

Strength is 159

The next dex gain after patch was 7.00% at BLGs and 7.00% at hellish trolls

Nothing else changed ...

Has something bugged?

Prowler

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[quote="PROWLER"][quote="ISYLVER"]We have not touched dex gains. Remember slow downs up until 171. [/quote] 165.3 dex ...... There have been no DEX slows at all during the run up to that (last one was 95 dex I think) The last dex gain immediately before hitting level cap was 3.60% exp (BLGs) Strength is 159 The next dex gain after patch was 7.00% at BLGs and 7.00% at hellish trolls Nothing else changed ... Has something bugged? Prowler [/quote]
Never mind this is a hopeless cause. Nothing is wrong you are just in the slowdown for BLG. Dex should be at 7% (I get every 3.5% after 171 str at 1.0x whereas you are on 0.5x).
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[quote="SPELUNK"]Never mind this is a hopeless cause. Nothing is wrong you are just in the slowdown for BLG. Dex should be at 7% (I get every 3.5% after 171 str at 1.0x whereas you are on 0.5x).[/quote]
STR is 159 and was before the patch ... after the patch, during the sessions with the BLGs and hellish trolls it increase by 0.1 in totality
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[quote="PROWLER"]STR is 159 and was before the patch ... after the patch, during the sessions with the BLGs and hellish trolls it increase by 0.1 in totality[/quote]
Spelunk,

You are berating me for not listening to you.

As I have repeatedly said ....

Immediately before the patch I was getting 0.1 dex per 3.6% at the BLGs (str 159/ dex 165)

Immediately after the patch I was getting 0.1 dex per 7.0% at the BLGs (str 159/dex 165)

It therefore "appears" that dex gains were nerfed in the patch.

Isylver says they didn't touch it ... I don't see how that is possible. I know the GMs don't offer gameplay advice but nothing else has changed (only the patch) and other people with higher STR report 0.1 dex per 3.52%

Can this be looked at please iSylver?

Thank you

Prowler
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[quote="PROWLER"]Spelunk, You are berating me for not listening to you. As I have repeatedly said .... Immediately before the patch I was getting 0.1 dex per 3.6% at the BLGs (str 159/ dex 165) Immediately after the patch I was getting 0.1 dex per 7.0% at the BLGs (str 159/dex 165) It therefore "appears" that dex gains were nerfed in the patch. Isylver says they didn't touch it ... I don't see how that is possible. I know the GMs don't offer gameplay advice but nothing else has changed (only the patch) and other people with higher STR report 0.1 dex per 3.52% Can this be looked at please iSylver? Thank you Prowler[/quote]
"SPELUNK" Nothing is wrong you are just in the slowdown for BLG. Dex should be at 7% (I get every 3.5% after 171 str at 1.0x whereas you are on 0.5x).


THIS - you will once again get dex at 3.5% when you hit 171 STR, so get your axe out or carry on at 7% per 0.1 dex until you hit 171 str
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[quote="VISKAH"][quote="SPELUNK"] Nothing is wrong you are just in the slowdown for BLG. Dex should be at 7% (I get every 3.5% after 171 str at 1.0x whereas you are on 0.5x).[/quote] THIS - you will once again get dex at 3.5% when you hit 171 STR, so get your axe out or carry on at 7% per 0.1 dex until you hit 171 str[/quote]

 

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