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#61 2018/09/26 12:13:55 |
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SKELATOR |
 [Rare] Tyrant TridentAttack : 106~122 Weight : 62 Durability : 2006 Speed : E(1152) Req. Str : 198 Req. Wis : 115 Req. Skill : 185 New Dsoma Spear :) |
#62 2018/09/26 21:08:20 |
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JAHEIRA |
"SKELATOR" ARRR shit that spear has potential, ints could be insane just a shame 128 wis ruins it when at lvl 120 spear will have 102 wis only no point giving up str, to lose attk to gain attk cant lose con as currently don't have enough def so it would be dex, but 26 dex loss for extra attack, wont be hitting axer at that rate
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="SKELATOR"][item post=158715 index=0]
New Dsoma Spear :)
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ARRR shit
that spear has potential, ints could be insane
just a shame 128 wis ruins it when at lvl 120 spear will have 102 wis only
no point giving up str, to lose attk to gain attk
cant lose con as currently don't have enough def
so it would be dex, but 26 dex loss for extra attack, wont be hitting axer at that rate
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#63 2018/09/26 21:40:54 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"JAHEIRA""SKELATOR" FYI This spear has the potential to have around 128~148 at max attack at intense (more or less). BT spear has 106~126. So that'll be about 22~22 more attack. After you take skill multipliers into account that's a gain of 46 attack (on average). Seems worth it to me to drop a 26 str is you'll still be gaining 20 attack AFTER the STR loss. Not to mention you'll get 26 MD Or you could drop CON and become a true glass cannon. It's your playing field ;) Wouldn't drop DEX tho, DEX too good lol
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="SKELATOR"][item post=158716 index=0]
New Dsoma Spear :)
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ARRR shit
that spear has potential, ints could be insane
just a shame 128 wis ruins it when at lvl 120 spear will have 102 wis only
no point giving up str, to lose attk to gain attk
cant lose con as currently don't have enough def
so it would be dex, but 26 dex loss for extra attack, wont be hitting axer at that rate
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FYI This spear has the potential to have around 128~148 at max attack at intense (more or less). BT spear has 106~126.
So that'll be about 22~22 more attack. After you take skill multipliers into account that's a gain of 46 attack (on average).
Seems worth it to me to drop a 26 str is you'll still be gaining 20 attack AFTER the STR loss. Not to mention you'll get 26 MD
Or you could drop CON and become a true glass cannon. It's your playing field ;)
Wouldn't drop DEX tho, DEX too good lol
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#64 2018/09/26 21:50:30 |
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JAHEIRA |
could be intresting
just for a couple more attk (when losing str) for the amount of time its going to take to get a intense spear and then get it upgraded to +5 and then do the dailys in orderer respect (as only get 21 str in the new 10 lvls when need 26 stats) aint got the motivation for that
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]could be intresting
just for a couple more attk (when losing str) for the amount of time its going to take to get a intense spear and then get it upgraded to +5
and then do the dailys in orderer respect (as only get 21 str in the new 10 lvls when need 26 stats)
aint got the motivation for that[/quote]
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#65 2018/09/26 21:55:23 |
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CYA |
well tbh u aint gonna respec b4 u got it to +5 anyway init lol be worth it def if u can make a +5 1 xD
then go proper bat shit crazy and add 3 Ct's to it for more attack xD |
#66 2018/09/26 21:58:04 |
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JAHEIRA |
"CYA"well tbh u aint gonna respec b4 u got it to +5 anyway init lol be worth it def if u can make a +5 1 xD if upgrades wasn't so brutal :P |
#67 2018/09/26 21:59:12 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
The way I see it, Devils have been spoilt with abundant drop rates on their top tier weapons for a LONG time.
Making every monster from level 40 onwards drop our top tier weapons was the biggest mistake in DSoma (in my opinion). Far too late to do anything about it now, though. Humans (until Boars came along) could only kill Gorshak for their top tier weapons. And now their new top-tier weapons drop from Negamare (just like us). The playing field is starting to even out. Slowly, but surely.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]The way I see it, Devils have been spoilt with abundant drop rates on their top tier weapons for a LONG time.
Making every monster from level 40 onwards drop our top tier weapons was the biggest mistake in DSoma (in my opinion). Far too late to do anything about it now, though.
Humans (until Boars came along) could only kill Gorshak for their top tier weapons. And now their new top-tier weapons drop from Negamare (just like us).
The playing field is starting to even out. Slowly, but surely.[/quote]
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#68 2018/09/26 22:05:32 |
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JAHEIRA |
"JARAGOONDOO"The way I see it, Devils have been spoilt with abundant drop rates on their top tier weapons for a LONG time. ye the potential def there my motivation isn't tho, as a devil we have gone 50+ lvls with the same weapon, if the new weapon rare tag was better than current weaps, then could start with upgrading a rare (instead of needing ints ) even epic tag , to give up on 26 str for example, the attk from epic spear wouldn't make up for the str loss as stands, my ints is better than that rare and the time it will take to invest until I see something in return is just to big
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]The way I see it, Devils have been spoilt with abundant drop rates on their top tier weapons for a LONG time.
Making every monster from level 40 onwards drop our top tier weapons was the biggest mistake in DSoma (in my opinion). Far too late to do anything about it now, though.
Humans (until Boars came along) could only kill Gorshak for their top tier weapons. And now their new top-tier weapons drop from Negamare (just like us).
The playing field is starting to even out. Slowly, but surely.[/quote]
ye the potential def there
my motivation isn't tho, as a devil we have gone 50+ lvls with the same weapon,
if the new weapon rare tag was better than current weaps, then could start with upgrading a rare (instead of needing ints ) even epic tag , to give up on 26 str for example, the attk from epic spear wouldn't make up for the str loss
as stands, my ints is better than that rare and the time it will take to invest until I see something in return is just to big
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#69 2018/09/26 22:11:22 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
Even an epic tag could be well worth upgrading imo :P
You'll keep similar attack, but gain MD |
#70 2018/09/26 22:28:36 |
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CYA |
i'd rather not have weapons as much as they drop for a but more drop rate on mats for ugrades and tabs dropping gems and stuff
every dsoma player thinks the drop rate is a bit skewiff top end weps drop from all mobs after 40 but top armor drop from what 3 mobs? and we used that armor for how many lvls lmao? 44 lvl in the same armor by the time i cap and thats bow which gets invul at lvl 76 im sure axe, spear and sword get early to late 60's maybe earlier think mage is the only one who get in the 80's lol
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[quote="CYA"]i'd rather not have weapons as much as they drop for a but more drop rate on mats for ugrades and tabs dropping gems and stuff
every dsoma player thinks the drop rate is a bit skewiff
top end weps drop from all mobs after 40 but top armor drop from what 3 mobs? and we used that armor for how many lvls lmao? 44 lvl in the same armor by the time i cap and thats bow which gets invul at lvl 76 im sure axe, spear and sword get early to late 60's maybe earlier
think mage is the only one who get in the 80's lol[/quote]
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#71 2018/09/26 22:41:58 |
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MERLIN |
I think the point you're missing jara is that devs havent had new 'top tier' weps compared to hsoma who have had 2-3?
Drop back down to the equivalent level (what there was in esoma) and you will find hsoma flooded with them |
#72 2018/09/26 22:57:37 |
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MERLIN |
I dont understand why everyone thinks you have to drop everything from one stat rather than spreading the loss? Taking 5 extra damage per hit ain't having a massive impact, then drop 10 str for the 45 gain or whatever it is, and drop 10 dex, most spears much like axe dont hit anything outside of auras anyway
That being said maybe there is a surprise in store at 120, the new staff requirement based on what I've seen so far will require level 120 to even be able to equip due to stat caps
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[quote="MERLIN"]I dont understand why everyone thinks you have to drop everything from one stat rather than spreading the loss? Taking 5 extra damage per hit ain't having a massive impact, then drop 10 str for the 45 gain or whatever it is, and drop 10 dex, most spears much like axe dont hit anything outside of auras anyway
That being said maybe there is a surprise in store at 120, the new staff requirement based on what I've seen so far will require level 120 to even be able to equip due to stat caps[/quote]
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#73 2018/09/26 23:00:39 |
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MERLIN |
Was old stat system but pretty sure I hit invul in late 50's on axer....
The newest mage mob seems to have a nice drop rate to be fair, not tried mellee so cant comment |
#74 2018/09/26 23:02:16 |
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JARAGOONDOO |
"MERLIN"I think the point you're missing jara is that devs havent had new 'top tier' weps compared to hsoma who have had 2-3? HSoma have had 2 new weapons because they don't do enough damage (compared to devils). Devils have way too much attack so adding new weapons at that same frequency would just create a bigger imbalance. And no you're wrong, because even Stinger tier weapons were rare as hell until magma beasts were released. A lot of humans were running around with Apus tier before then. That's like us using Death Bows and Knuckle of Vanquishing for the longest time. Imagine all our mobs dropping only that tier of weapon. Imagine Magma Beasts only dropping Malefic Bow tier of weapons, and only Gorshak dropping our top tier. You feel it's not fair that humans have had 2 new weapons. I feel it's perfectly fair because Devils have been spoilt from day 1 (and don't need a boost in attack as a result). Like I said, the biggest mistake was having all our top weapons drop from level 40 mobs onwards. It created imbalances and it created feelings were devils think they're entitled to new weapons (when doing that will only make balance worse). I'm glad the GMs care more about balance than making all the entitled devils feel better with new weapons.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="MERLIN"]I think the point you're missing jara is that devs havent had new 'top tier' weps compared to hsoma who have had 2-3?
Drop back down to the equivalent level (what there was in esoma) and you will find hsoma flooded with them[/quote]
HSoma have had 2 new weapons because they don't do enough damage (compared to devils). Devils have way too much attack so adding new weapons at that same frequency would just create a bigger imbalance.
And no you're wrong, because even Stinger tier weapons were rare as hell until magma beasts were released. A lot of humans were running around with Apus tier before then. That's like us using [url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Armory/Item.asp?id=2145]Death Bows[/url] and [url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Armory/Item.asp?id=2194]Knuckle of Vanquishing[/url] for the longest time. Imagine all our mobs dropping only that tier of weapon. Imagine Magma Beasts only dropping [url=https://myth-of-soma.com/Armory/Item.asp?id=2740]Malefic Bow[/url] tier of weapons, and only Gorshak dropping our top tier.
You feel it's not fair that humans have had 2 new weapons. I feel it's perfectly fair because Devils have been spoilt from day 1 (and don't need a boost in attack as a result).
Like I said, the biggest mistake was having all our top weapons drop from level 40 mobs onwards. It created imbalances and it created feelings were devils think they're entitled to new weapons (when doing that will only make balance worse). I'm glad the GMs care more about balance than making all the entitled devils feel better with new weapons.[/quote]
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