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The x4 rested for wotw/ss is an amazing first step but I can see there are still not enough incentive for some people to participate in RVR.

The idea came from Donka which IMO is great.

1. Pos should only gain per kill, you should not lose upon death
2. Pos to be gained in all rvr event 1 pos every 10sec
3. Pos should be used as currency, you should be able to buy items with pos.

Price to be decided by GM what I would like to ideally see is hsoma being able to purchase DP, med dia with pos and for dsoma they should be able to buy med rubies and DT.

I think if both side have no fear of losing pos then regardless of which side has more attendance or what the % is, more people will try to attend, more raids will occur. Imagine humans organising guild hunt/raid to slay some devils for pos/tablets.
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[quote="AFRO"]The x4 rested for wotw/ss is an amazing first step but I can see there are still not enough incentive for some people to participate in RVR. The idea came from Donka which IMO is great. 1. Pos should only gain per kill, you should not lose upon death 2. Pos to be gained in all rvr event 1 pos every 10sec 3. Pos should be used as currency, you should be able to buy items with pos. Price to be decided by GM what I would like to ideally see is hsoma being able to purchase DP, med dia with pos and for dsoma they should be able to buy med rubies and DT. I think if both side have no fear of losing pos then regardless of which side has more attendance or what the % is, more people will try to attend, more raids will occur. Imagine humans organising guild hunt/raid to slay some devils for pos/tablets. [/quote]
pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x

How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in.

Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in. Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs[/quote]
"LUPISCUS"pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x

How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in.

Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs


disagree.

also pos can be made achievable only by rvr events. Lupi you got great ideas I see.

We are trying to find solutions for problems occurring.

You are trying to find problems for possible solutions, which is destructive on potential improvement :)
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[quote="DONKA"][quote="LUPISCUS"]pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in. Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs[/quote] disagree. also pos can be made achievable only by rvr events. Lupi you got great ideas I see. We are trying to find solutions for problems occurring. You are trying to find problems for possible solutions, which is destructive on potential improvement :)[/quote]
"DONKA"
"LUPISCUS"pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x

How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in.

Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs


disagree.

also pos can be made achievable only by rvr events. Lupi you got great ideas I see.

We are trying to find solutions for problems occurring.

You are trying to find problems for possible solutions, which is destructive on potential improvement :)


is that what im doin? i ddint realise..thx for telling me tho x

Thought i was asking for new weps to be shared around a bit.. so china/ vk dont get them all ..oh well..
And ppl playing 2 x races dont farm pos and get all the suggested rewards that 1 race ppl dont get.. forigive my greed and selfishness.. carry on
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="DONKA"][quote="LUPISCUS"]pos is farmable for u 2 x race playing guys................. with a pos shop already, thats more than enuf perks for you double crossing, double race... errr....ppl x How bout some perks for single race, solo players who put the effort and time in. Biggest help for more rvr... would be spreading the love with the new weps.. More humans in bigger weps, and we got a fairer fight with the devs[/quote] disagree. also pos can be made achievable only by rvr events. Lupi you got great ideas I see. We are trying to find solutions for problems occurring. You are trying to find problems for possible solutions, which is destructive on potential improvement :)[/quote] is that what im doin? i ddint realise..thx for telling me tho x Thought i was asking for new weps to be shared around a bit.. so china/ vk dont get them all ..oh well.. And ppl playing 2 x races dont farm pos and get all the suggested rewards that 1 race ppl dont get.. forigive my greed and selfishness.. carry on [/quote]
What is your potential solution for both?

I am curious, give solution not obvious facts
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[quote="DONKA"]What is your potential solution for both? I am curious, give solution not obvious facts[/quote]
I suggested in a previous post about some incentives for both. Ie tabs / armour or weps ( obviously not new patch ones.) . Or for a crafter incentive even a X??? Amount of mats to bulk buy. Or if lower levels attribute maybe a pre level 70 +1 Eva armour or something they can help gaining a +... Pos being out the safe zone. Weather it's blind or weaken as such.

I understand where lupi mentioned about farming.
But if it was more based on wotw - CTF based you would have to be there to gain. So to speak.
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[quote="THE_D0N"]I suggested in a previous post about some incentives for both. Ie tabs / armour or weps ( obviously not new patch ones.) . Or for a crafter incentive even a X??? Amount of mats to bulk buy. Or if lower levels attribute maybe a pre level 70 +1 Eva armour or something they can help gaining a +... Pos being out the safe zone. Weather it's blind or weaken as such. I understand where lupi mentioned about farming. But if it was more based on wotw - CTF based you would have to be there to gain. So to speak. [/quote]
maybe a roll system for boss drops - anyone who has done more than xxxx damage in the instance (main boss and adds combined) gets to roll for the drops
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[quote="MICKYC"]maybe a roll system for boss drops - anyone who has done more than xxxx damage in the instance (main boss and adds combined) gets to roll for the drops[/quote]
auto loot system and every1 who participates gets atleast 1 item randomly
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[quote="FRINGE"]auto loot system and every1 who participates gets atleast 1 item randomly[/quote]
"FRINGE"auto loot system and every1 who participates gets atleast 1 item randomly


That would be cool to add to nega too, could get more people in there.
2 birds 1 stone sorta speak
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[quote="SH1VS"][quote="FRINGE"]auto loot system and every1 who participates gets atleast 1 item randomly[/quote] That would be cool to add to nega too, could get more people in there. 2 birds 1 stone sorta speak[/quote]
Disagree with changes to PoS but agree on more incentives to RvR. For me personally I don’t really need any incentive, I play the game for RvR and some PvP - but clearly 90% of Hsoma still needs some extra motivation for it as they don’t ever show to WoTW lol.
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[quote="DR_EVIL"]Disagree with changes to PoS but agree on more incentives to RvR. For me personally I don’t really need any incentive, I play the game for RvR and some PvP - but clearly 90% of Hsoma still needs some extra motivation for it as they don’t ever show to WoTW lol.[/quote]
Maybe add in quest chains?

Dsoma :- Kill 50 humans reward large ruby
Hsoma :- kill 50 devil's reward large diamond

Maybe to stop the farming, say you kill the same person twice, it still only counts as one?

Make it repeatable, or another way to stop the farming thing could the gms implement something like "accounts on same IP address don't count"

Not sure how difficult that would be I've never done code work
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[quote="SH1VS"]Maybe add in quest chains? Dsoma :- Kill 50 humans reward large ruby Hsoma :- kill 50 devil's reward large diamond Maybe to stop the farming, say you kill the same person twice, it still only counts as one? Make it repeatable, or another way to stop the farming thing could the gms implement something like "accounts on same IP address don't count" Not sure how difficult that would be I've never done code work[/quote]
I think realistically people who don’t go to RVR events do so because they don’t like it or they have no intentions of going. Whatever additions you add in there will still be those who refuse to go for whatever reason it is. I rarely go to SS mainly because the devils go with numbers / dual log their humans to keep certain stones etc so it makes it very pointless.

Wotw I barely attend either mainly because conti doesn’t concern me much, the main reason I would need conti is horror eyes which again hardly drop and it’s abit pointless even trying to hunt them as you gain very few and also there are certain players who log a devil at the spawn and come on every 10mins to make it non viable to hunt them.

But then if you tweaked any of these things too much it would unbalance things for other players / make it too one sided for humans. So it’s a difficult situation.

My only thing I would change is the drop rate on horror eyes which would most certainly make me attend wotw and actively hunt on conti.
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[quote="TYRESE"]I think realistically people who don’t go to RVR events do so because they don’t like it or they have no intentions of going. Whatever additions you add in there will still be those who refuse to go for whatever reason it is. I rarely go to SS mainly because the devils go with numbers / dual log their humans to keep certain stones etc so it makes it very pointless. Wotw I barely attend either mainly because conti doesn’t concern me much, the main reason I would need conti is horror eyes which again hardly drop and it’s abit pointless even trying to hunt them as you gain very few and also there are certain players who log a devil at the spawn and come on every 10mins to make it non viable to hunt them. But then if you tweaked any of these things too much it would unbalance things for other players / make it too one sided for humans. So it’s a difficult situation. My only thing I would change is the drop rate on horror eyes which would most certainly make me attend wotw and actively hunt on conti.[/quote]
Just make conti worth fighting for then?

New mobs (I know Devs get wbm/hogs/apai&mags) DD/ww add? / higher drop rates on map / maybe increased % gain so 20% instead of 10 but only in conti map to make the risk of getting killed worth it?

Would that draw you to go to a wotw to fight for that kind of thing?

If humans did raids to conti too I'd love that, last time Devs had conti one of your humans came and would 3hit me (2 when proc goes off)... As a team you guys would make us devils very very nervous hunting there.

Edit... Maybe 20% leveling boost is too much. Maybe 15, but something noticeable and worth fighting for.
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[quote="SH1VS"]Just make conti worth fighting for then? New mobs (I know Devs get wbm/hogs/apai&mags) DD/ww add? / higher drop rates on map / maybe increased % gain so 20% instead of 10 but only in conti map to make the risk of getting killed worth it? Would that draw you to go to a wotw to fight for that kind of thing? If humans did raids to conti too I'd love that, last time Devs had conti one of your humans came and would 3hit me (2 when proc goes off)... As a team you guys would make us devils very very nervous hunting there. Edit... Maybe 20% leveling boost is too much. Maybe 15, but something noticeable and worth fighting for.[/quote]

 

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