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Pk System Observation

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Ok so before I begin let me just say that this isn't me crying or whining as it doesn't apply to me, as I'm not really killable (yet) unless I disconnect or lag out...Okay you humans got me the other day on ultra low % at wotw ;p

But over the years I've observed that the PK system really seems to encourage a form of harassment/retaliation by opposing guilds, that often leads to lower levels being forced out of the game...which I personally do not want, I want the biggest community possible, as I'm sure most of us do? I've always seen a lot of potential in this game but I feel this is one of it's downfalls personally.

So how about we throw some ideas out there to try and tackle this issue?

I think adding a cool down period, i.e. person A cannot attack or kill person B more than once per X amount of time (30 - 60 mins?) after the last PK, unless person B is hitting person A or the mobs hitting him (to prevent harassment (I refuse to be someones WBM tank)).

Don't know how hard that would be to implement but I think it would be a massive help.

Some people don't have the time to grind it out all day, so when they are on they would at least like a chance to hunt half the time! (instead of being forced from a spawn the whole time).
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[quote="SLAYER"]Ok so before I begin let me just say that this isn't me crying or whining as it doesn't apply to me, as I'm not really killable (yet) unless I disconnect or lag out...Okay you humans got me the other day on ultra low % at wotw ;p But over the years I've observed that the PK system really seems to encourage a form of harassment/retaliation by opposing guilds, that often leads to lower levels being forced out of the game...which I personally do not want, I want the biggest community possible, as I'm sure most of us do? I've always seen a lot of potential in this game but I feel this is one of it's downfalls personally. So how about we throw some ideas out there to try and tackle this issue? I think adding a cool down period, i.e. person A cannot attack or kill person B more than once per X amount of time (30 - 60 mins?) after the last PK, unless person B is hitting person A or the mobs hitting him (to prevent harassment (I refuse to be someones WBM tank)). Don't know how hard that would be to implement but I think it would be a massive help. Some people don't have the time to grind it out all day, so when they are on they would at least like a chance to hunt half the time! (instead of being forced from a spawn the whole time). [/quote]
Your going to get a lot of people that say pking is part of the game as they always do. But I like your idea up until a certain point. So say after a certain lvl you can be pked as normal. As then it doesn't change much only lower levels and makes people not want to leave
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[quote="CHRONOS"]Your going to get a lot of people that say pking is part of the game as they always do. But I like your idea up until a certain point. So say after a certain lvl you can be pked as normal. As then it doesn't change much only lower levels and makes people not want to leave [/quote]
I agree but that's probably from the people who are guilty of wanting to ruin other peoples game enjoyment. I also like your expansion on my idea.
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[quote="SLAYER"]I agree but that's probably from the people who are guilty of wanting to ruin other peoples game enjoyment. I also like your expansion on my idea.[/quote]
Hmm the last hour you've logged in every 15 minutes saying "waiting for you to go hunt,I have players every spawn i can trace in and kill you" Maybe you should have left the crying on forums to Prom? You guys wanted the war, now you have it. Deal with it.
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[quote="ARROW"]Hmm the last hour you've logged in every 15 minutes saying "waiting for you to go hunt,I have players every spawn i can trace in and kill you" Maybe you should have left the crying on forums to Prom? You guys wanted the war, now you have it. Deal with it.[/quote]
"doesn't apply to me, as I'm not really killable (yet)" < funny :> thats why your posting it because Alucard can't? lolz xD

Sinister started to pk me from level 30+. Why should it be changed now? Now you can't kill me on 4th + hit... i understand your 90+ feelings, now you need help from others to pk me . Sad story , now i want to pk your lower lvl guild members as was done to me. Seems only fair
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[quote="LENIWYJOE"]"doesn't apply to me, as I'm not really killable (yet)" < funny :> thats why your posting it because Alucard can't? lolz xD Sinister started to pk me from level 30+. Why should it be changed now? Now you can't kill me on 4th + hit... i understand your 90+ feelings, now you need help from others to pk me . Sad story , now i want to pk your lower lvl guild members as was done to me. Seems only fair[/quote]
That's all well and good but. New players to the game some times get dragged into these pk "wars" and there only crime is joining a guild they see is active
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[quote="CHRONOS"]That's all well and good but. New players to the game some times get dragged into these pk "wars" and there only crime is joining a guild they see is active [/quote]
Easy way to fix it is move pk mode from lvl 16 to like 40 that way players are no longer noobs to the game and it all so stops all the chars that are lvled to 16 just to harrass ppl. All so quick question devil moral killing devil moral on dsoma is 0 moral lose right?
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[quote="ICEBLUE"]Easy way to fix it is move pk mode from lvl 16 to like 40 that way players are no longer noobs to the game and it all so stops all the chars that are lvled to 16 just to harrass ppl. All so quick question devil moral killing devil moral on dsoma is 0 moral lose right? [/quote]
I know it use to be like that unless it was fixed


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Level 40 is abit extreme, maybe level 30 as that's when rested ends and you expect people to have an understanding of the game
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[quote="CHRONOS"]I know it use to be like that unless it was fixed Edit Level 40 is abit extreme, maybe level 30 as that's when rested ends and you expect people to have an understanding of the game [/quote]
Or just make it so people actually lose moral for pking as it stands people are pking about 10 people and staying devil moral. Surely the moral loss for pking should be far more severe since the moral is so easy to gain back. I guarantee people would stop once they were close to virtuous or angel knowing they too would be attacked constantly. I couldn't care less about pking people personally I work full time and so when I am online I just want to chill out and level on my netbook while I watch tv. If people want to kill me that's fine I'll res scroll up and warp and just try hunt again later. I do enjoy wotw and gvw though!
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[quote="ADATH"]Or just make it so people actually lose moral for pking as it stands people are pking about 10 people and staying devil moral. Surely the moral loss for pking should be far more severe since the moral is so easy to gain back. I guarantee people would stop once they were close to virtuous or angel knowing they too would be attacked constantly. I couldn't care less about pking people personally I work full time and so when I am online I just want to chill out and level on my netbook while I watch tv. If people want to kill me that's fine I'll res scroll up and warp and just try hunt again later. I do enjoy wotw and gvw though! [/quote]
Isylver has already lowered moral gains to help combat that
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[quote="CHRONOS"]Isylver has already lowered moral gains to help combat that [/quote]
Yes devil moral killing devil moral is 0 lose, wouldnt say this is a bug it encourages to pk devil morals

Can't really comment on the point, yes it's a problem but always been a problem

Increasing none pk to lvl 30 or 40 won't solve the fact that once past 40 a lvl 60+ will still 1 or 2 hit you

You just need to forget about what's happened in the past for the future of devil soma and don't involve ppl that ain't
Involved even if there guild name is the same
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[quote="RELINA"]Yes devil moral killing devil moral is 0 lose, wouldnt say this is a bug it encourages to pk devil morals Can't really comment on the point, yes it's a problem but always been a problem Increasing none pk to lvl 30 or 40 won't solve the fact that once past 40 a lvl 60+ will still 1 or 2 hit you You just need to forget about what's happened in the past for the future of devil soma and don't involve ppl that ain't Involved even if there guild name is the same[/quote]
This discussion isn't only about devil soma tho and I think killing a devil moral on dsoma is an actual bug that wasn't intended
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[quote="CHRONOS"]This discussion isn't only about devil soma tho and I think killing a devil moral on dsoma is an actual bug that wasn't intended [/quote]
"CHRONOS"This discussion isn't only about devil soma tho and I think killing a devil moral on dsoma is an actual bug that wasn't intended


There a race of devils, it's in there blood to kill, having all the top devils angel moral just Dosnt seen right
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[quote="RELINA"][quote="CHRONOS"]This discussion isn't only about devil soma tho and I think killing a devil moral on dsoma is an actual bug that wasn't intended [/quote] There a race of devils, it's in there blood to kill, having all the top devils angel moral just Dosnt seen right[/quote]
I think that's irrelevant reh the system is there to prevent harrasment. If you kill to many people you become free game and are exiled from town. People would choose their kills more wisely and not waste moral on low levels or kill people 4-5.times in a row because it's penalty free.
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[quote="ADATH"]I think that's irrelevant reh the system is there to prevent harrasment. If you kill to many people you become free game and are exiled from town. People would choose their kills more wisely and not waste moral on low levels or kill people 4-5.times in a row because it's penalty free.[/quote]
I agree that players under level 40 or so shouldn't be able to be griefed. But fortunately most of locos are 40+ so we can happily spend our time smashing them, especially leni.... He's a dweeb
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[quote="RAMBO"]I agree that players under level 40 or so shouldn't be able to be griefed. But fortunately most of locos are 40+ so we can happily spend our time smashing them, especially leni.... He's a dweeb[/quote]

 

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