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@Papa do you have any issue with not getting Nega drop knowing full well Negamare is an end game boss, not a boss for level 100s? :)w
if you say yes you are trolling ;D |
#46 2019/04/29 18:44:16 |
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NITE |
@stete also asking for +50 Damage buff is quite insane
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#47 2019/04/29 18:45:44 |
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"NITE"@stete also asking for +50 Damage buff is quite insane it would be a reward for doing the crystals, seen as most who attend the boss don't both doing the crystals. |
#48 2019/04/29 18:49:45 |
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It's fine as it is imo. At least the boss dies fast and isn't like Gorshak where you'd be sat there for 90+ mins working as a team only for people to turn up for the last 10 minutes.
An attack buff for anyone who clicked a crystal would be a joke. It already seems like the kills are by the same people most the time anyway, it'd just solidify that more.
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[quote="TIEFER"]It's fine as it is imo. At least the boss dies fast and isn't like Gorshak where you'd be sat there for 90+ mins working as a team only for people to turn up for the last 10 minutes.
An attack buff for anyone who clicked a crystal would be a joke. It already seems like the kills are by the same people most the time anyway, it'd just solidify that more.
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#49 2019/04/29 18:55:35 |
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cant u all stop feeding the troll? hes clearly trolling
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#50 2019/04/29 18:57:02 |
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"TIEFER"It's fine as it is imo. At least the boss dies fast and isn't like Gorshak where you'd be sat there for 90+ mins working as a team only for people to turn up for the last 10 minutes. Exactly, this backs up my monopolization point :)
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[quote="NITE"][quote="TIEFER"]It's fine as it is imo. At least the boss dies fast and isn't like Gorshak where you'd be sat there for 90+ mins working as a team only for people to turn up for the last 10 minutes.
An attack buff for anyone who clicked a crystal would be a joke. It already seems like the kills are by the same people most the time anyway, it'd just solidify that more.
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Exactly, this backs up my monopolization point :)[/quote]
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#51 2019/04/29 18:58:44 |
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NITE |
"SYONIDE"cant u all stop feeding the troll? hes clearly trolling Asking for +50 is trolling Ranting because someone turned up to boss that didn't do the crystals and got the kill is trolling. You are level 105 ish Kostas so even you shouldn't be wasting your time going to Nega as its meant to be a late game boss and Isylver said this since day one. So really I am anti-trolling, you are welcome.
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[quote="NITE"][quote="SYONIDE"]cant u all stop feeding the troll? hes clearly trolling [/quote]
Asking for +50 is trolling
Ranting because someone turned up to boss that didn't do the crystals and got the kill is trolling.
You are level 105 ish Kostas so even you shouldn't be wasting your time going to Nega as its meant to be a late game boss and Isylver said this since day one.
So really I am anti-trolling, you are welcome.[/quote]
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#52 2019/04/29 19:02:06 |
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"DEAMOND"I understand why people get frustrated by it, But i have to say P3RF3CT & Dare are probably in pos number 2 & 3 for most kills of nega with china being in the lead followed by tongskie. If you would help with crystals then I woudlnt say anything but havnt seen you once doing crystals, probly u dont even know the location of em.... :/ sorry mate...
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[quote="P3RF3CT"][quote="DEAMOND"]I understand why people get frustrated by it, But i have to say P3RF3CT & Dare are probably in pos number 2 & 3 for most kills of nega with china being in the lead followed by tongskie.
I'm not being funny but prf3ct got all shitty with me the other week when i didn't do crystals and got the kill, but yet you've killed it probably as many as 10 or 20x as me.
It just sounds like people want their cake and eat it too.
I certainly wouldn't object to there being more incentives for people doing crystals though. [/quote]
If you would help with crystals then I woudlnt say anything but havnt seen you once doing crystals, probly u dont even know the location of em.... :/ sorry mate...[/quote]
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#53 2019/04/29 19:03:01 |
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#54 2019/04/29 19:03:43 |
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"NITE"@stete also asking for +50 Damage buff is quite insane How exactly is it insane? Some Melle chars are hitting the boss for 150? A hit, the boss has huge evasion rate, rewarding the people who spend upto 3 hours per day spawning crystals with +30 more a hit over those won't don't help to spawn is hardly insane. Make negamare only accessible to those on opposite race map come T7 and a buff for whoever hits crystals IS FAIR. What's fair about some people spending upto 3 hours per day spawning crystals just for others to be lazy and rock up at t8 and get the kill?
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[quote="STETE"][quote="NITE"]@stete also asking for +50 Damage buff is quite insane[/quote]
How exactly is it insane? Some Melle chars are hitting the boss for 150? A hit, the boss has huge evasion rate, rewarding the people who spend upto 3 hours per day spawning crystals with +30 more a hit over those won't don't help to spawn is hardly insane.
Make negamare only accessible to those on opposite race map come T7 and a buff for whoever hits crystals IS FAIR.
What's fair about some people spending upto 3 hours per day spawning crystals just for others to be lazy and rock up at t8 and get the kill? [/quote]
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#55 2019/04/29 20:07:12 |
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I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals.
So It would be fascinating to know who are these crystal runners spending up to 3 hours doing crystals a day when there is only 24 hours in a day which means 6 Soma days, so if a Soma hour is 10 mins that's means you can only be doing crystals for 60 minutes per day. And lets be honest buddy no one plays 24 hours a day xD. But time is relative so I am sure you live near a black hole which makes your time different to ours, that would explain it ^_^. Anyway, It's a terrible idea, Dan recently decreased Hsoma Negamare MD so now mages are getting more drops too. Be thankful and stop ranting and moaning because some people turn up without helping with the crystals.
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[quote="NITE"] I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals.
So It would be fascinating to know who are these crystal runners spending up to 3 hours doing crystals a day when there is only 24 hours in a day which means 6 Soma days, so if a Soma hour is 10 mins that's means you can only be doing crystals for 60 minutes per day. And lets be honest buddy no one plays 24 hours a day xD.
But time is relative so I am sure you live near a black hole which makes your time different to ours, that would explain it ^_^.
Anyway, It's a terrible idea, Dan recently decreased Hsoma Negamare MD so now mages are getting more drops too. Be thankful and stop ranting and moaning because some people turn up without helping with the crystals.[/quote]
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#56 2019/04/29 20:42:27 |
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I don't mind the run doing crystals as it gives me a chance to improve, a very small chance but a chance either way, I have attended quite a lot and only got 1 kill, not saying I should get loads of kills as I am still low level but im not exactly under geared, the one kill I did get I didn't get a single drop due to the adds blocking me in and everyone else getting there before I could
I agree with a few comments in this thread being part of the crystals to gain access to nega should be looked at but I don't think its the main reason people don't do them I feel the time you get to pick up your drop should be increased a little bit to give people a chance to get there hard earnt rewards if this can be done easily you have to remb that nega is a end game boss and should be treated like one it spawns every 4 hours it could be worse e.g 36 hours like some boss's so for the sake of my example you could spawn 9 nega per 1 insane pamoth that's 9 chances you have to get the drop but a little more hard work that needs to be dealt to try /papa
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[quote="PAPA"]I don't mind the run doing crystals as it gives me a chance to improve, a very small chance but a chance either way, I have attended quite a lot and only got 1 kill, not saying I should get loads of kills as I am still low level but im not exactly under geared, the one kill I did get I didn't get a single drop due to the adds blocking me in and everyone else getting there before I could
I agree with a few comments in this thread
being part of the crystals to gain access to nega should be looked at but I don't think its the main reason people don't do them
I feel the time you get to pick up your drop should be increased a little bit to give people a chance to get there hard earnt rewards if this can be done easily
you have to remb that nega is a end game boss and should be treated like one
it spawns every 4 hours it could be worse e.g 36 hours like some boss's
so for the sake of my example you could spawn 9 nega per 1 insane pamoth
that's 9 chances you have to get the drop but a little more hard work that needs to be dealt to try
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#57 2019/04/29 21:37:26 |
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"NITE" I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals. Runners life: When I realise its T4 I will message a few other team players I know who are willing to spawn nega, to see if there is enough people to help spawn. Then I finish my hunt and head to town to get pots, run from TyT to the portal in Vod takes 5? Minutes, when there regain stamina for a few 2? minutes (normally get there few mins too early) Then spend 4-5mins running around devils map activating all crystals. Then make my way from TyT to Nega entrance, another 3-4 minute run? Already @ 15-16 minutes now and seeing as it's T6/almost T7, I can't exactly go and hunt for the next 10minutes, so this must go down as waiting time aswell. Total 25-26 minutes. X this by 6 a day. Non runners: Realise its T8 stop hunt, repot, run to negamare entrance = 3-4 minutes, boss is already 20% dead. Easy life Total 3-4 minutes
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[quote="STETE"][quote="NITE"] I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals.
So It would be fascinating to know who are these crystal runners spending up to 3 hours doing crystals a day when there is only 24 hours in a day which means 6 Soma days, so if a Soma hour is 10 mins that's means you can only be doing crystals for 60 minutes per day. And lets be honest buddy no one plays 24 hours a day xD.
But time is relative so I am sure you live near a black hole which makes your time different to ours, that would explain it ^_^.
Anyway, It's a terrible idea, Dan recently decreased Hsoma Negamare MD so now mages are getting more drops too. Be thankful and stop ranting and moaning because some people turn up without helping with the crystals.[/quote]
Runners life:
When I realise its T4 I will message a few other team players I know who are willing to spawn nega, to see if there is enough people to help spawn.
Then I finish my hunt and head to town to get pots, run from TyT to the portal in Vod takes 5? Minutes, when there regain stamina for a few 2? minutes (normally get there few mins too early)
Then spend 4-5mins running around devils map activating all crystals.
Then make my way from TyT to Nega entrance, another 3-4 minute run?
Already @ 15-16 minutes now and seeing as it's T6/almost T7, I can't exactly go and hunt for the next 10minutes, so this must go down as waiting time aswell.
Total 25-26 minutes. X this by 6 a day.
Non runners:
Realise its T8 stop hunt, repot, run to negamare entrance = 3-4 minutes, boss is already 20% dead. Easy life
Total 3-4 minutes
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#58 2019/04/29 21:52:37 |
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@Takeshi stop moaning mate.
Negamare is the best boss in game and you have the ability to spawn it every 4 hours... Everybody knows what sort of chance they have at killing Nega and getting the drop as people that attend Negamare tend to have a really gear to increase their chances at getting the drops. if you know your chances are low then it a gamble you agree to take when you do crystals. I've certainly known my chances when I attend, I've done Nega multiple times with Nite and Maverick and I've teamed up with China, Dare, P3rf3ct, Monsterman in the past in order to do crystal, knowing that these guys have really good gear and I may be wasting my time but its a chance I was willing to take because I knew if I got the drop would be or better said - can be worth it. Nothing needs changing.
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[quote="NITE"]@Takeshi stop moaning mate.
Negamare is the best boss in game and you have the ability to spawn it every 4 hours...
Everybody knows what sort of chance they have at killing Nega and getting the drop as people that attend Negamare tend to have a really gear to increase their chances at getting the drops. if you know your chances are low then it a gamble you agree to take when you do crystals.
I've certainly known my chances when I attend, I've done Nega multiple times with Nite and Maverick and I've teamed up with China, Dare, P3rf3ct, Monsterman in the past in order to do crystal, knowing that these guys have really good gear and I may be wasting my time but its a chance I was willing to take because I knew if I got the drop would be or better said - can be worth it.
Nothing needs changing.[/quote]
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#59 2019/04/29 23:14:41 |
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"STETE""NITE" I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals. You're capped with mental gear though, the majority of people that turn up without running around for crystals are levelling. Everyone else is hoping for a last hit for the drops and the quest. In comparison, you're laughing. Like I previously said about Gorshak, you should feel lucky you don't need a fuck load of people to actually kill it in a reasonable time. I have no current guild affiliation but it genuinely seems like you're trying to have your own cake and eat it, as others have said. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous this thread is imo. Although you're from dsoma so maybe you don't understand how it was in the past on hsoma at bosses. Gorshak spawned what, once a week if you owned conti? Nega can be spawned every 4 hours. Get on with it.
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[quote="TIEFER"][quote="STETE"][quote="NITE"] I don't know how time works in your delusional dimension but for me it takes me less than 10 mins to run all crystals per Soma day (every 4 hours), with 2-3 people it takes less than 5 minutes do spawn all crystals.
So It would be fascinating to know who are these crystal runners spending up to 3 hours doing crystals a day when there is only 24 hours in a day which means 6 Soma days, so if a Soma hour is 10 mins that's means you can only be doing crystals for 60 minutes per day. And lets be honest buddy no one plays 24 hours a day xD.
But time is relative so I am sure you live near a black hole which makes your time different to ours, that would explain it ^_^.
Anyway, It's a terrible idea, Dan recently decreased Hsoma Negamare MD so now mages are getting more drops too. Be thankful and stop ranting and moaning because some people turn up without helping with the crystals.[/quote]
Runners life:
When I realise its T4 I will message a few other team players I know who are willing to spawn nega, to see if there is enough people to help spawn.
Then I finish my hunt and head to town to get pots, run from TyT to the portal in Vod takes 5? Minutes, when there regain stamina for a few 2? minutes (normally get there few mins too early)
Then spend 4-5mins running around devils map activating all crystals.
Then make my way from TyT to Nega entrance, another 3-4 minute run?
Already @ 15-16 minutes now and seeing as it's T6/almost T7, I can't exactly go and hunt for the next 10minutes, so this must go down as waiting time aswell.
Total 25-26 minutes. X this by 6 a day.
Non runners:
Realise its T8 stop hunt, repot, run to negamare entrance = 3-4 minutes, boss is already 20% dead. Easy life
Total 3-4 minutes
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You're capped with mental gear though, the majority of people that turn up without running around for crystals are levelling. Everyone else is hoping for a last hit for the drops and the quest. In comparison, you're laughing. Like I previously said about Gorshak, you should feel lucky you don't need a fuck load of people to actually kill it in a reasonable time. I have no current guild affiliation but it genuinely seems like you're trying to have your own cake and eat it, as others have said.
The more I think about it, the more ridiculous this thread is imo. Although you're from dsoma so maybe you don't understand how it was in the past on hsoma at bosses. Gorshak spawned what, once a week if you owned conti? Nega can be spawned every 4 hours. Get on with it.[/quote]
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