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"NITE"Deamond and lupi have similar attemps.

Lupis all made with 200 skill.
Deamonds some made with 100 and most with 150 skill.

And deamond has had 1.8% better success. So yeah skill means nothing really I guess

/mav


This is why i moan about the anvil.

Maybe 1 day it can have a 'overhaul'

Crafting is a big part of Soma.. whether just to make ur own items..do ur sr's or upgrades.

As its basically a gear- based game, some clarity of upgrade success and how increased craft skill affects these things would be very welcome.
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="NITE"]Deamond and lupi have similar attemps. Lupis all made with 200 skill. Deamonds some made with 100 and most with 150 skill. And deamond has had 1.8% better success. So yeah skill means nothing really I guess /mav[/quote] This is why i moan about the anvil. Maybe 1 day it can have a 'overhaul' Crafting is a big part of Soma.. whether just to make ur own items..do ur sr's or upgrades. As its basically a gear- based game, some clarity of upgrade success and how increased craft skill affects these things would be very welcome.[/quote]
Could somebody ask Fin to release a similar list (many characters each with many attempts) of sub-150 skill crafters?
If that list shows that 100 crafters trend toward 60% success we'll know 100 v 150 makes a difference. If they're all 70ish then it makes no difference.

I guess one of the problems is that people with 100 skill tend to do less upgrade attempts, instead getting a 150 to do for them but fin could just make a test chars with 100 skill then do a few 100 ups on each and release that data.
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[quote="SAL3M"]Could somebody ask Fin to release a similar list (many characters each with many attempts) of sub-150 skill crafters? If that list shows that 100 crafters trend toward 60% success we'll know 100 v 150 makes a difference. If they're all 70ish then it makes no difference. I guess one of the problems is that people with 100 skill tend to do less upgrade attempts, instead getting a 150 to do for them but fin could just make a test chars with 100 skill then do a few 100 ups on each and release that data.[/quote]
Salem, yeah fin is gonna get one over to me.

Dr evil. Youd think so. But looking at those figures it's not?

Yeoey seems to have best chance at anvil. And hes only 150 skill
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[quote="MAVERICK"]Salem, yeah fin is gonna get one over to me. Dr evil. Youd think so. But looking at those figures it's not? Yeoey seems to have best chance at anvil. And hes only 150 skill[/quote]
Order maybe he has just tried a lot more +1's than anyone else?
Maybe many of the lower % folk are because they've tried more +5 and beyond?
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[quote="MERLIN"]Order maybe he has just tried a lot more +1's than anyone else? Maybe many of the lower % folk are because they've tried more +5 and beyond?[/quote]
Can I just ask is there something built into the game that makes % lower on above +5 upgrades than below?

If there isn't then the % chance is the same for every +1 you do it is just less likely to make a +6 than a +1 because you have to multiply a chance that is below one (i.e 100%) by itself e.g for +6 at 70% chance 0.7^6 = just over an 11% chance to get to +6.
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[quote="SAL3M"]Can I just ask is there something built into the game that makes % lower on above +5 upgrades than below? If there isn't then the % chance is the same for every +1 you do it is just less likely to make a +6 than a +1 because you have to multiply a chance that is below one (i.e 100%) by itself e.g for +6 at 70% chance 0.7^6 = just over an 11% chance to get to +6.[/quote]
The % of success after each success is meant to get lower, but we all know what if's and but's create, myths ;)

It's really time to put away all these myths and actually have facts the game is over 15+ years and still the myths regarding the anvil are still alive and kicking.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The % of success after each success is meant to get lower, but we all know what if's and but's create, myths ;) It's really time to put away all these myths and actually have facts the game is over 15+ years and still the myths regarding the anvil are still alive and kicking.[/quote]
Myth of Anvil
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[quote="SAL3M"]Myth of Anvil[/quote]
I know this might seem a lot of work but if Finito could find the data on 5-10 crafters with 100, with150, with 200 craft skill and then break each crafters total attempts down to how many were for +1 then +2 till +8 then and only then will we have the full knowledge of the success/fail rate at 100 skill, at 150 skill, at 200 skill and to see what the success/fail rate is for a +1 right upto +8.

At present all that list shows is player x has tried x amount of upgrades resulting in x amount of success and x amount of fails giving you all a false success rate.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I know this might seem a lot of work but if Finito could find the data on 5-10 crafters with 100, with150, with 200 craft skill and then break each crafters total attempts down to how many were for +1 then +2 till +8 then and only then will we have the full knowledge of the success/fail rate at 100 skill, at 150 skill, at 200 skill and to see what the success/fail rate is for a +1 right upto +8. At present all that list shows is player x has tried x amount of upgrades resulting in x amount of success and x amount of fails giving you all a false success rate.[/quote]
Thing you need to take into account for also

As the ppl with 200 skill havnt just upgrade with 200 skill, they upgraded with 100, and then 150 skill
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[quote="KAZOKU"]Thing you need to take into account for also As the ppl with 200 skill havnt just upgrade with 200 skill, they upgraded with 100, and then 150 skill[/quote]
"LEON1DAS"https://discordapp.com/invite/uzM8dty

I see people everyday currently joining and it now has more than 330 users.

Handy way to contact gms as they are regularly online and handy too.

Voice chat and text chat with everyone


The link has expired, can you give us a new one, please?
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[quote="HIMOUROKEN"][quote="LEON1DAS"][url]https://discordapp.com/invite/uzM8dty[/url] I see people everyday currently joining and it now has more than 330 users. Handy way to contact gms as they are regularly online and handy too. Voice chat and text chat with everyone [/quote] The link has expired, can you give us a new one, please?[/quote]
https://discord.gg/5HHQQtyv
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[quote="EDICIUS"]https://discord.gg/5HHQQtyv[/quote]
Bring back nite
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[quote="TEMEROSO"]Bring back nite [/quote]
"EDICIUS"https://discord.gg/5HHQQtyv


Thank you
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[quote="HIMOUROKEN"][quote="EDICIUS"]https://discord.gg/5HHQQtyv[/quote] Thank you[/quote]
Any new link to discord
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[quote="SEROQUEL"]Any new link to discord[/quote]
https://discord.gg/bVjPbryG For main Soma Discord

https://discord.gg/DQBAFh9V for my own with helpful info and people
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]https://discord.gg/bVjPbryG For main Soma Discord https://discord.gg/DQBAFh9V for my own with helpful info and people[/quote]

 

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