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"DEAMOND"
It's a guild village war, every guild wants to win. It's how they want to win it.

More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds.

Simples.


Other guilds used to cure/heal outsiders that were on the stone so the whole every guild wanting win thing is a bit questionable.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="DEAMOND"] It's a guild village war, every guild wants to win. It's how they want to win it. More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds. Simples.[/quote] Other guilds used to cure/heal outsiders that were on the stone so the whole every guild wanting win thing is a bit questionable.[/quote]
"DEAMOND"More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds.

Simples.


I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?
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[quote="QUIMM"][quote="DEAMOND"]More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds. Simples.[/quote] I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?[/quote]
It's pretty dumb if one of the two sides gets someone on stone they won't drop for 50+ minutes due to heal being insanely op if you have high Int and are healing the player on stone. This needs to be addressed imo so there are more stone switches, instead of one or two (even zero). Thus making it a more enjoyable GVW where even the lower level Guilds have a chance of winning by stepping on in the last minute.

Solution - Heal shouldn't be affected by MA.(It never was on Esoma or any other Pserver)

Offtopic but w/e it needs to be looked at.

If someone could test how much you heal for with lvl 4 heal with 130+ int with what Ma gear you have on that would be great to see the numbers.
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[quote="HOHOHO"]It's pretty dumb if one of the two sides gets someone on stone they won't drop for 50+ minutes due to heal being insanely op if you have high Int and are healing the player on stone. This needs to be addressed imo so there are more stone switches, instead of one or two (even zero). Thus making it a more enjoyable GVW where even the lower level Guilds have a chance of winning by stepping on in the last minute. Solution - Heal shouldn't be affected by MA.(It never was on Esoma or any other Pserver) Offtopic but w/e it needs to be looked at. If someone could test how much you heal for with lvl 4 heal with 130+ int with what Ma gear you have on that would be great to see the numbers.[/quote]
"QUIMM"
"DEAMOND"More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds.

Simples.


I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?


Would you not agree that EQ holds some of the strongest and highest lvls in game? I've been playing for a while now and as far as i am aware when plum's on the stone its game over.
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[quote="DEAMOND"][quote="QUIMM"][quote="DEAMOND"]More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds. Simples.[/quote] I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?[/quote] Would you not agree that EQ holds some of the strongest and highest lvls in game? I've been playing for a while now and as far as i am aware when plum's on the stone its game over. [/quote]
Based on active characters EQ aren't the strongest guild anymore imo.
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[quote="THEMAT"]Based on [b]active[/b] characters EQ aren't the strongest guild anymore imo.[/quote]
"MONTEL"Firetrap So neutral they PK me when it's EQ vs NM pk fight


As i said in my post, in a situation such as you describe (and gvw), we will attack EQ. It has nothing to do with alliances, it has to do with attempting to get a pk in return for the many pk's we have received.

"QUIMM"
"DEAMOND"More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds.

Simples.


I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?


Don't agree with Deamond 100%, but to correct your statement....you forget firstly you need to attack people around the stone to get next to the stone. Had the situation been different and we were next to the stone, 3 minutes left, and had 100 pots, then we would have all been attacking stone holder.

The GVW is a war of two guilds, and as a guild in the middle no matter what we do we get accused of something from one side.
From a more casual neutral guild i would love to see changes to GVW to nerf healing and see more stone changes. Maybe then we wouldnt have to spend 90% of our time killing healers and surrounding characters.
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[quote="CYROX"][quote="MONTEL"]Firetrap So neutral they PK me when it's EQ vs NM pk fight[/quote] As i said in my post, in a situation such as you describe (and gvw), we will attack EQ. It has nothing to do with alliances, it has to do with attempting to get a pk in return for the many pk's we have received. [quote="QUIMM"][quote="DEAMOND"]More slowing,blind etc done to eq = More chance for other guilds. Simples.[/quote] I'm afraid I disagree with you as currently no other guild is able to knock iphios off of the stone. Surely the smart money would be to kill who ever is on stone and hope for a chance to get on yourself?[/quote] Don't agree with Deamond 100%, but to correct your statement....you forget firstly you need to attack people around the stone to get next to the stone. Had the situation been different and we were next to the stone, 3 minutes left, and had 100 pots, then we would have all been attacking stone holder. The GVW is a war of two guilds, and as a guild in the middle no matter what we do we get accused of something from one side. From a more casual neutral guild i would love to see changes to GVW to nerf healing and see more stone changes. Maybe then we wouldnt have to spend 90% of our time killing healers and surrounding characters. [/quote]
the Last 2 GV's have been Very close.
All V EQ?? Why the fuck not when it makes the guild village so awesome.
I am pretty sure even dan agrees after seing the last GV it was a good fight.
I know all of eq want a easy win and now they have a fight on there hands.. want it a All v All (lol!)
But for the 20 odd gv's you guys won being the dominating force and still monopolizing it, why did you not maybe separate yourselves up in to 2 guilds? Would have made hsoma gv very good, might have made alot of people who quit-stay and play, might have increased the usercount much more then it is... (but going on Sid's reaction to ghostlord [on this idea] how shamefull to even suggest such a idea, right?!?

I say despite EQ still recruiting and having many other side chars in different guilds (making them a 40-50 man force) and them having plum.. who has now capped? levling who and how many chars to cap now(24/7'er)
They should welcome the All V them fight, it is and was still very close past couple of guild villages.
You guys have insane amount of good gear, your guild average level is like 80+, and From what i presume you guys would welcome good pvp no? or do you prefer an easy gv which you had for many weeks where you guys went naked and messed about among yourself (maybe not because you need it, but so others can not have it and maybe level faster or w/e)

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[quote="ZRAET"]the Last 2 GV's have been Very close. All V EQ?? Why the fuck not when it makes the guild village so awesome. I am pretty sure even dan agrees after seing the last GV it was a good fight. I know all of eq want a easy win and now they have a fight on there hands.. want it a All v All (lol!) But for the 20 odd gv's you guys won being the dominating force and still monopolizing it, why did you not maybe separate yourselves up in to 2 guilds? Would have made hsoma gv very good, might have made alot of people who quit-stay and play, might have increased the usercount much more then it is... (but going on Sid's reaction to ghostlord [on this idea] how shamefull to even suggest such a idea, right?!? I say despite EQ still recruiting and having many other side chars in different guilds (making them a 40-50 man force) and them having plum.. who has now capped? levling who and how many chars to cap now(24/7'er) They should welcome the All V them fight, it is and was still very close past couple of guild villages. You guys have insane amount of good gear, your guild average level is like 80+, and From what i presume you guys would welcome good pvp no? or do you prefer an easy gv which you had for many weeks where you guys went naked and messed about among yourself (maybe not because you need it, but so others can not have it and maybe level faster or w/e) [/quote]
I would also like to add..
The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone.
Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'?
Then as was the case Before A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some'
Same thing is happening now,
I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals.

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[quote="ZRAET"]I would also like to add.. The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone. Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'? Then as was the case [b]Before[/b] A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some' Same thing is happening now, I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals. [/quote]
EQ still most powerful guild I think the reason everyone against them is to stop them from having trace because they can lock down hunting spots or bosses this way. I myself don't like hunting besides EQ when they have trace because there has been times when a few trace in and try to get me out of hunting. That being said NM do the same trying to lock down a specific spawn mostly NM's. As far as the GVW thing goes I have also attacked other players for their part in GVW so i understand EQ there.
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[quote="SONIC"]EQ still most powerful guild I think the reason everyone against them is to stop them from having trace because they can lock down hunting spots or bosses this way. I myself don't like hunting besides EQ when they have trace because there has been times when a few trace in and try to get me out of hunting. That being said NM do the same trying to lock down a specific spawn mostly NM's. As far as the GVW thing goes I have also attacked other players for their part in GVW so i understand EQ there.[/quote]
"GANDALF"

You then have jpot in town mouthing of at quimm as per usual

/gand


jpot mouthing in town, i was talking to quimm about when he told me to kill myself.. thats all xx
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[quote="JPOT"][quote="GANDALF"] You then have jpot in town mouthing of at quimm as per usual /gand[/quote] jpot mouthing in town, i was talking to quimm about when he told me to kill myself.. thats all xx[/quote]
40-50 man force

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[quote="HOHOHO"]40-50 man force ROFL .... .. .. ¬_¬[/quote]
lol wat, is that you Goebbels?

Such anti-equilitic remarks, did Iceblue pk you today?
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[quote="PLUM"]lol wat, is that you Goebbels? Such anti-equilitic remarks, did Iceblue pk you today?[/quote]
"ZRAET"I would also like to add..
The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone.
Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'?
Then as was the case Before A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some'
Same thing is happening now,
I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals.



Oh wow, EQ will be drowning in a swimming pool full of their own jizz reading this.
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[quote="SATAN2"][quote="ZRAET"]I would also like to add.. The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone. Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'? Then as was the case [b]Before[/b] A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some' Same thing is happening now, I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals. [/quote] Oh wow, EQ will be drowning in a swimming pool full of their own jizz reading this.[/quote]
"ZRAET"I would also like to add..
The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone.
Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'?
Then as was the case Before A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some'
Same thing is happening now,
I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals.



Style quit because he didn't have the passion to play anymore(I spoke to him quite regular tbh, despite being enemys), not due to pking/harassment. In fact the Chinese loved the PK wars, they quit due to high ping issues and went back to the Chinese Pserver they were previously playing.

The whole PK war started in pit where Style/Xkf/Leo back in the day used to literally mob steal everyone, and I went Devil on them. Just like I did Dynamic the week before. :) (week 2 I think) back in September lold.

Pls staphhhh talking out of your arse buddy.
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[quote="HOHOHO"][quote="ZRAET"]I would also like to add.. The terrorists on this game [lol] where the ones who singled the Chinese out as a starting stone. Instead of working around the language barrier, it resulted in a race/hate eventually leading to what outcome? some eastern players quitting and life becoming much easier for 'some'? Then as was the case [b]Before[/b] A certain guild lost to was it fusion? ended in all who did not help them getting a good spanking outside gv to the point of grief/quit and again life became much easier for 'some' Same thing is happening now, I say for all of human soma to Unite against such bitter dominating people, unite and show this power hungry force this human world will not be Alienated by a few certain individuals. [/quote] Style quit because he didn't have the passion to play anymore(I spoke to him quite regular tbh, despite being enemys), not due to pking/harassment. In fact the Chinese loved the PK wars, they quit due to high ping issues and went back to the Chinese Pserver they were previously playing. The whole PK war started in pit where Style/Xkf/Leo back in the day used to literally mob steal everyone, and I went Devil on them. Just like I did Dynamic the week before. :) (week 2 I think) back in September lold. Pls staphhhh talking out of your arse buddy.[/quote]
"HOHOHO"40-50 man force

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ZAO
TAKESHI
PLUM
LORDCOOS
BLADECY
ORANGE
QUIMM
ACAELUS
ASBJORN
RAGE
ROCKAPE
SECRET
SUPERSAIYAN
LUPISCUS
MONTEL
MRWOLF
CHRONOS
CND
GANDALF
HAUX
HEISENBERG
HORUS
ICEBLUE
KNUTSEL

Taken a few off the list who I don't see regularly at gvw but there's 24 there. Plus others from other guilds who help, stores etc i'd say the number is at least at the 30 mark each gvw. All of the above mentioned are at least 100+ int? (Minus Blade/Lupiscus, do some int!)
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="HOHOHO"]40-50 man force ROFL .... .. .. ¬_¬[/quote] ZAO TAKESHI PLUM LORDCOOS BLADECY ORANGE QUIMM ACAELUS ASBJORN RAGE ROCKAPE SECRET SUPERSAIYAN LUPISCUS MONTEL MRWOLF CHRONOS CND GANDALF HAUX HEISENBERG HORUS ICEBLUE KNUTSEL Taken a few off the list who I don't see regularly at gvw but there's 24 there. Plus others from other guilds who help, stores etc i'd say the number is at least at the 30 mark each gvw. All of the above mentioned are at least 100+ int? (Minus Blade/Lupiscus, do some int!) [/quote]

 

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