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"MICKYC"say you had a +5, 600 recoil, bow and it failed at +6, then you would still have a 600 recoil bow - not to be sneezed at - and 2 more attempts to improve it? this would be far better than no bow at all and a lot of people would still be happy to buy and use


Yup exactly - I see Raven's point that you'd end up with some crap +8 with +1 stat items sure but what does that matter? If you npc it is only the same as them being broken anyway and not only that but +1 stat items are still a big improvement on base items in many cases, particularly if you are new and have no gear - give this stuff to lower lvl guildies.

The +1 no stat on fail, or 'fake +1' if we're calling it that, would just lead to more 'medium' level gear floating around in-game. If combo is removed then there will still be a big incentive for people to continue farming to make better gear i.e. true +8, better tags etc and would remove the crushing sense of regression for those that risk ups or the months-years of saving up stuff for back-ups that is extremely off-putting to the more risk-averse.

At the end of the day it is time v reward - very few people are going to plough on for thousands of hours if they don't see any reward/they can instantly regress to square one. It is a very antiquated system that should be updated asap imo.

Depends on what your view of the server is; if it is well Soma will always be an incredibly niche game with the same handful of players floating around and better to just keep as is and let them enjoy it for what it is then that is a perfectly valid argument but if you look at it from the perspective of 'Could I convince a casual gamer friend who only has so many hours in the week to join this game and increase the UC?' then I think this change makes perfect sense.
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[quote="SAL3M"][quote="MICKYC"]say you had a +5, 600 recoil, bow and it failed at +6, then you would still have a 600 recoil bow - not to be sneezed at - and 2 more attempts to improve it? this would be far better than no bow at all and a lot of people would still be happy to buy and use[/quote] Yup exactly - I see Raven's point that you'd end up with some crap +8 with +1 stat items sure but what does that matter? If you npc it is only the same as them being broken anyway and not only that but +1 stat items are still a big improvement on base items in many cases, particularly if you are new and have no gear - give this stuff to lower lvl guildies. The +1 no stat on fail, or 'fake +1' if we're calling it that, would just lead to more 'medium' level gear floating around in-game. If combo is removed then there will still be a big incentive for people to continue farming to make better gear i.e. true +8, better tags etc and would remove the crushing sense of regression for those that risk ups or the months-years of saving up stuff for back-ups that is extremely off-putting to the more risk-averse. At the end of the day it is time v reward - very few people are going to plough on for thousands of hours if they don't see any reward/they can instantly regress to square one. It is a very antiquated system that should be updated asap imo. Depends on what your view of the server is; if it is well Soma will always be an incredibly niche game with the same handful of players floating around and better to just keep as is and let them enjoy it for what it is then that is a perfectly valid argument but if you look at it from the perspective of 'Could I convince a casual gamer friend who only has so many hours in the week to join this game and increase the UC?' then I think this change makes perfect sense. [/quote]
Sounds good to me, I could do with some +5 eva pads that are actually only 4 or 5% instead of people holding onto them all for their noobs
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[quote="RAZOR"]Sounds good to me, I could do with some +5 eva pads that are actually only 4 or 5% instead of people holding onto them all for their noobs[/quote]
Return mickyc and I'll give you 5 toes and a tag stinger to knock me out that Imaginary 600 rec bow.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Return mickyc and I'll give you 5 toes and a tag stinger to knock me out that Imaginary 600 rec bow.[/quote]
hehe, I have that bow - but no back up :P

Stinger[Epic] Stinger+5
Attack : 40~59
Weight : 9
Durability : 538
Speed : A+(612)

Req. Str : 100
Req. Dex : 93
Req. Skill : 143
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[quote="MICKYC"]hehe, I have that bow - but no back up :P [item post=201399 index=0][/quote]
There was a +5 on the front page with 580 before he ripped it :P
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[quote="RAZOR"]There was a +5 on the front page with 580 before he ripped it :P[/quote]
I was tired last night my head wasn’t in the right mind , but After 6 hours of sleep I get what your saying, if prefer to keep an item least then legendary drops don’t rip on+1 or nega weps
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[quote="ADONYIIX"]I was tired last night my head wasn’t in the right mind , but After 6 hours of sleep I get what your saying, if prefer to keep an item least then legendary drops don’t rip on+1 or nega weps [/quote]
Nice bow mickyc, I won't ask how many ripped beforehand don't want to bring the anvil nightmares back ;)

I think it's true to say the majority are in an agreement that the anvil ( upgrading ) needs looking at, everything else in soma has had a tweak here, a tweak there from spells to auras to art on weapons etc with the exception the only thing that has been ignored is the biggest thing that should have been looked at in all these years.

Yeah I know some will say that the anvil is fine, only those that have max out gear or play 24/7 or pay people to farm for them, the rest of the community well what s left that is deserve to enjoy this great game too.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Nice bow mickyc, I won't ask how many ripped beforehand don't want to bring the anvil nightmares back ;) I think it's true to say the majority are in an agreement that the anvil ( upgrading ) needs looking at, everything else in soma has had a tweak here, a tweak there from spells to auras to art on weapons etc with the exception the only thing that has been ignored is the biggest thing that should have been looked at in all these years. Yeah I know some will say that the anvil is fine, only those that have max out gear or play 24/7 or pay people to farm for them, the rest of the community well what s left that is deserve to enjoy this great game too.[/quote]
I would come back if the anvil were to be fixed
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[quote="MICKYC"]I would come back if the anvil were to be fixed[/quote]
guys have you read anything about item/money sinks ?
so anvil is one. it needs tweaking but it is.
else there wil lbe powercreep. Game will be full of shitty items, taht noone will need them because people will still be going for max.

what you wil lachieve with this is that a epic stigner +4/+5 will be almost free, and +3/+3 will be worth a lot. I will leave you to know why.

as well as all noobs will have better items faster, which will raise the bar what is considered "normal" to a higher lvl upgrades. Thats inflation you are proposing here, and player base is too scarse to withstand a blow. If naked wuld have succeeded in all those stingers he burned he alone would be able to tank down upped item prices. consider other 50 top players and thats done, It will screw the game of eveyrone that woked to make its own item to +3 since now a +4/+5 wil lbe on tyt floor.

before suggesting stuff guys , go read about game development 101

i dotn want to offend so please dont take it personaly Salem
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[quote="ROMELIS"]guys have you read anything about item/money sinks ? so anvil is one. it needs tweaking but it is. else there wil lbe powercreep. Game will be full of shitty items, taht noone will need them because people will still be going for max. what you wil lachieve with this is that a epic stigner +4/+5 will be almost free, and +3/+3 will be worth a lot. I will leave you to know why. as well as all noobs will have better items faster, which will raise the bar what is considered "normal" to a higher lvl upgrades. Thats inflation you are proposing here, and player base is too scarse to withstand a blow. If naked wuld have succeeded in all those stingers he burned he alone would be able to tank down upped item prices. consider other 50 top players and thats done, It will screw the game of eveyrone that woked to make its own item to +3 since now a +4/+5 wil lbe on tyt floor. before suggesting stuff guys , go read about game development 101 i dotn want to offend so please dont take it personaly Salem[/quote]

 

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