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ok guys, noob perspective here.

some bosses drops souls. liek kob king, blood akah, etc.
these souls dropped by them and only by them causes people to farm them. at such lvl that for lower lvlvs there is no chance of even trying to get to there. same with all bosses that drop souls.
even ones that i could solo are quickly killed by capped chars with +8 gear.

so with restrictions we wount get anywhere since those on top of the food chain also have a right to hunt, right ?

so i was thinking, why not making these souls dropped at much lower rate (lets say 2-5x lower but still dropped so that it could be hunted for) on regular mobs, that boss mobs are based upon?

like akahs could drop blood akah soul. its ok for heavy hitters to go for bosses since chances are higher getting it there, but for noobs or casual players it would be fine to hunt the brood that roams Soma untouched. Like akah, or werwolves. Especially this this is frustrating on bosses that are bottlenecked for Souls and essences as wel (like grath, grogg, etc)

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[quote="ROMELIS"]ok guys, noob perspective here. some bosses drops souls. liek kob king, blood akah, etc. these souls dropped by them and only by them causes people to farm them. at such lvl that for lower lvlvs there is no chance of even trying to get to there. same with all bosses that drop souls. even ones that i could solo are quickly killed by capped chars with +8 gear. so with restrictions we wount get anywhere since those on top of the food chain also have a right to hunt, right ? so i was thinking, why not making these souls dropped at much lower rate (lets say 2-5x lower but still dropped so that it could be hunted for) on regular mobs, that boss mobs are based upon? like akahs could drop blood akah soul. its ok for heavy hitters to go for bosses since chances are higher getting it there, but for noobs or casual players it would be fine to hunt the brood that roams Soma untouched. Like akah, or werwolves. Especially this this is frustrating on bosses that are bottlenecked for Souls and essences as wel (like grath, grogg, etc) discuss [/quote]
+1
need mind/body soul shards and nega tears dropping from somewhere too.. these double tabs are way too op for most players never having a chance of seeing one
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]+1 need mind/body soul shards and nega tears dropping from somewhere too.. these double tabs are way too op for most players never having a chance of seeing one[/quote]
You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell?

Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?
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[quote="PROWLER"]You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell? Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?[/quote]
"PROWLER"You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell?

Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?


True, but it would be more fun to hunt mobs that are redundant in the game also :)
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[quote="RAZOR"][quote="PROWLER"]You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell? Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?[/quote] True, but it would be more fun to hunt mobs that are redundant in the game also :)[/quote]
Good idea. +1
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[quote="CASHMAN"]Good idea. +1[/quote]
Examples: ??

King Kobold Soul: 1/4000 from kobold, 1/3000 from strong kobold.
Androctonus Australis Soul: 1/2000 Desert scorpion, 1/8000 Scorpion Whelp
Grath The Werewolf Soul: 1/4000 from werewolf, 1/3000 lycanthrope
Blood Akah Soul: 1/4000 from Akah

Crimson Pride Soul: 1/4000 apus
Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions
Lifeless Fallen Troll Soul: 1/4000 frost troll 1/4000 forest troll 1/3000 psycho troll

Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions
Absolute Nightmare: 1/2250 Nightmare, 1/5500 Wraith
Raptor Hive Soul: 1/3500 Raptor, 1/4500 Scale Raptor

Numbers were thinking of how viable spawns are and respawn rates
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[quote="CASHMAN"]Examples: ?? King Kobold Soul: 1/4000 from kobold, 1/3000 from strong kobold. Androctonus Australis Soul: 1/2000 Desert scorpion, 1/8000 Scorpion Whelp Grath The Werewolf Soul: 1/4000 from werewolf, 1/3000 lycanthrope Blood Akah Soul: 1/4000 from Akah Crimson Pride Soul: 1/4000 apus Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions Lifeless Fallen Troll Soul: 1/4000 frost troll 1/4000 forest troll 1/3000 psycho troll Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions Absolute Nightmare: 1/2250 Nightmare, 1/5500 Wraith Raptor Hive Soul: 1/3500 Raptor, 1/4500 Scale Raptor Numbers were thinking of how viable spawns are and respawn rates[/quote]
Grand Devil Guard and Berserk Demented Warthog are not available to normal users unless a certain person is asleep (roughly 6 hour windows per day).

GDG can be found at events .....

I have never even seen the Warthog despite many attempts .....
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[quote="PROWLER"]Grand Devil Guard and Berserk Demented Warthog are not available to normal users unless a certain person is asleep (roughly 6 hour windows per day). GDG can be found at events ..... I have never even seen the Warthog despite many attempts .....[/quote]
+1 nice idea
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[quote="MICKYC"]+1 nice idea[/quote]
"CASHMAN"Examples: ??

Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions
Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions



Boars 1/4000? Aren't there also those little boars in conti, can do like 1/12000 of those guys?
Great Devil Guard 1/8? Not sure of some weeny mob
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[quote="RAZOR"][quote="CASHMAN"]Examples: ?? Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions [/quote] Boars 1/4000? Aren't there also those little boars in conti, can do like 1/12000 of those guys? Great Devil Guard 1/8? Not sure of some weeny mob[/quote]
"PROWLER"You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell?

Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?
I've seen this accusation thrown around on the forum several times. Things like players logging out in the Dungeon in order to constantly farm the bosses and there being no auto-kick out of map upon logout.

How long has this been the case, how long have things like that gone on?

If it has been for a long time, then yes an entire system change (introducing items into loot tables) might be an easier ask, as the aforementioned problem will already be apparent to GM's, and again, if it's been like that for some time why would you expect that to then change?

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[quote="X"][quote="PROWLER"]You want to change a whole system of "Soul drops" because the Chinese farm them to sell? Easier just to stop the Chinese isn't it?[/quote]I've seen this accusation thrown around on the forum several times. Things like players logging out in the Dungeon in order to constantly farm the bosses and there being no auto-kick out of map upon logout. How long has this been the case, how long have things like that gone on? If it has been for a long time, then yes an entire system change (introducing items into loot tables) might be an easier ask, as the aforementioned problem will already be apparent to GM's, and again, if it's been like that for some time why would you expect that to then change? [/quote]
"RAZOR"
"CASHMAN"Examples: ??

Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions
Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions



Boars 1/4000? Aren't there also those little boars in conti, can do like 1/12000 of those guys?
Great Devil Guard 1/8? Not sure of some weeny mob


Completely forgot about the 171-200str mob boar >_< good spotting, and also yeah the little ones on castle map.
GDG soul perhaps 1/8000 devil warriors, 1/30 devil guard, 1/100 great devil guard ('cause it can be spawned every 4hour) Although again those bosses will just get camped, so perhaps devil warriors only.

Also, if this were all to happen, would you suggest they be made all tradable, or still untradable for the majority?
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[quote="SLAPS"][quote="RAZOR"][quote="CASHMAN"]Examples: ?? Berserk Demented Warthog ?? suggestions Grand Devil Guard: ?? suggestions [/quote] Boars 1/4000? Aren't there also those little boars in conti, can do like 1/12000 of those guys? Great Devil Guard 1/8? Not sure of some weeny mob[/quote] Completely forgot about the 171-200str mob boar >_< good spotting, and also yeah the little ones on castle map. GDG soul perhaps 1/8000 devil warriors, 1/30 devil guard, 1/100 great devil guard ('cause it can be spawned every 4hour) Although again those bosses will just get camped, so perhaps devil warriors only. Also, if this were all to happen, would you suggest they be made all tradable, or still untradable for the majority?[/quote]
GDG souls can be dropped by devils guards in dung 3, dung 4, merc, as well as great devil guard that spawsn below tyt orcs.

i dont know math on that 1/4000 it might be too much, it might be too low, since some people will definatelly turn on hunting these now valuable mobs. also some chinese might start farming them as well, but thats a whole different problem.

also the guy trading alt gems could have more to trade for. like turning in xxx of ww leather yyy ww gems and zzz ww bones gives you one soul. of course this would mean that WW would be farmed constantly by everyone. but if you would add same with druids/elder druids, apuses, akahs, etc it wil lsplit people , since noone can farm everything all the time.

as well as you can make other mobs drop other parts of elements necessary for same souls. lets say gazers could drop pieces of jewelry and prims could drop prysm crystals whych you would also need t turn in to shards/ souls/ nega tears, etc. t would all dissolute the number of players on whole more number of sinks.

discuss
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[quote="ROMELIS"]GDG souls can be dropped by devils guards in dung 3, dung 4, merc, as well as great devil guard that spawsn below tyt orcs. i dont know math on that 1/4000 it might be too much, it might be too low, since some people will definatelly turn on hunting these now valuable mobs. also some chinese might start farming them as well, but thats a whole different problem. also the guy trading alt gems could have more to trade for. like turning in xxx of ww leather yyy ww gems and zzz ww bones gives you one soul. of course this would mean that WW would be farmed constantly by everyone. but if you would add same with druids/elder druids, apuses, akahs, etc it wil lsplit people , since noone can farm everything all the time. as well as you can make other mobs drop other parts of elements necessary for same souls. lets say gazers could drop pieces of jewelry and prims could drop prysm crystals whych you would also need t turn in to shards/ souls/ nega tears, etc. t would all dissolute the number of players on whole more number of sinks. discuss[/quote]
Devil warriors you mean, the d3 spawn is huge so i did the number based on that, they are easily farmed in huge numbers. (perhaps different droprate for diff maps, where they're at smaller spawns)
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[quote="SLAPS"]Devil warriors you mean, the d3 spawn is huge so i did the number based on that, they are easily farmed in huge numbers. (perhaps different droprate for diff maps, where they're at smaller spawns)[/quote]

 

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