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Most players love taking part in this old Soma tradition of pitting there guild against others but sadly some players take what happens at the guild village personally and the aftermath is threats and doing whatever they can to run players off the server. So for the majority of guilds, players tend not to take part at all.
Most will admit that the best wars at the village are when the server turns up for a bit of FUN not just those on the 2 main sides, if any remember esoma gvw’s you couldn’t get in the hall due to the amount of guilds taking part. So my question is, if you want more taking part for this hourly FUN why put players off from taking part? What happens at the gvw - stays at the gvw And more guilds, players might just take part for some FUN.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Most players love taking part in this old Soma tradition of pitting there guild against others but sadly some players take what happens at the guild village personally and the aftermath is threats and doing whatever they can to run players off the server. So for the majority of guilds, players tend not to take part at all.
Most will admit that the best wars at the village are when the server turns up for a bit of FUN not just those on the 2 main sides, if any remember esoma gvw’s you couldn’t get in the hall due to the amount of guilds taking part.
So my question is, if you want more taking part for this hourly FUN why put players off from taking part?
What happens at the gvw - stays at the gvw
And more guilds, players might just take part for some FUN.[/quote]
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#1 2020/05/25 09:16:54 |
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YOSHIMIKA |
Its probably because of the boring alliances that are in place. If you attack 1 guild you're usually attacking an alliance of 2/3 guilds who then take it personally. 2 sided gvw is boring as shit. Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all!
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[quote="YOSHIMIKA"]Its probably because of the boring alliances that are in place. If you attack 1 guild you're usually attacking an alliance of 2/3 guilds who then take it personally. 2 sided gvw is boring as shit. Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! [/quote]
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#2 2020/05/25 09:33:24 |
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MICKYC |
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#3 2020/05/25 09:50:33 |
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HENDRIX |
"YOSHIMIKA" Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! Been saying this since I returned in feb and get the same response every time.. It just would not work because of the current situation were in. As a 'neutral or lesser guild' which ever side you attack first will deem you to be helping the other side... Is a shame really!!
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[quote="HENDRIX"][quote="YOSHIMIKA"] Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! [/quote]
Been saying this since I returned in feb and get the same response every time.. It just would not work because of the current situation were in. As a 'neutral or lesser guild' which ever side you attack first will deem you to be helping the other side... Is a shame really!![/quote]
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#4 2020/05/25 10:27:45 |
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"HENDRIX""YOSHIMIKA" Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! you levelled alone til cap mate, not the best person to comment.. top bracket chicken. you posted over and over about this, just to end up joining one of the 'only' 2 sides l0l.
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[quote="KHATUN"][quote="HENDRIX"][quote="YOSHIMIKA"] Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! [/quote]
Been saying this since I returned in feb and get the same response every time.. It just would not work because of the current situation were in. As a 'neutral or lesser guild' which ever side you attack first will deem you to be helping the other side... Is a shame really!![/quote]
you levelled alone til cap mate, not the best person to comment.. top bracket chicken.
you posted over and over about this, just to end up joining one of the 'only' 2 sides l0l.[/quote]
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#5 2020/05/25 11:02:12 |
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OPENTHEDOOR |
For a gvw to be a free for all, it needs the mechanics to allow a free for all. (Currently in my opinion it doesn’t).
I’ll give some examples. DL have recently set up some very good kill boxes inside the hut. I don’t think they would be happy if everyone stood out side not attacking each other and tried to break through. Similar to the last gvw win for vikings when they had a square surround the stone. Having a singular objective point doesn’t really allow for FFA because at some point sides B C D ect will all try and gang up on side A. A good starting point if people wanted to try would be to experiment with either 1) longest guild on the stone for an hour (similar to SS) 2) 3 stones spread around the village
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]For a gvw to be a free for all, it needs the mechanics to allow a free for all. (Currently in my opinion it doesn’t).
I’ll give some examples.
DL have recently set up some very good kill boxes inside the hut. I don’t think they would be happy if everyone stood out side not attacking each other and tried to break through. Similar to the last gvw win for vikings when they had a square surround the stone.
Having a singular objective point doesn’t really allow for FFA because at some point sides B C D ect will all try and gang up on side A.
A good starting point if people wanted to try would be to experiment with either
1) longest guild on the stone for an hour (similar to SS)
2) 3 stones spread around the village [/quote]
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#6 2020/05/25 12:15:02 |
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"OPENTHEDOOR"For a gvw to be a free for all, it needs the mechanics to allow a free for all. (Currently in my opinion it doesn’t). The format of gvw definitely needs look at. I think 3 stones, maybe 2 inside the hut and 1 outside with the same format as SS (whichever guild tanks for longest gets gv) With some kind of payout to other guilds who manage to get some time on a stone, to incentives guilds participating. Its then beneficial to spend a full hour at gvw, and it could turn the entire village into a fight. There definitely needs to be a reward system for guild participation beyond being allied to 1 of the major guilds.
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[quote="COOLHAND"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]For a gvw to be a free for all, it needs the mechanics to allow a free for all. (Currently in my opinion it doesn’t).
I’ll give some examples.
DL have recently set up some very good kill boxes inside the hut. I don’t think they would be happy if everyone stood out side not attacking each other and tried to break through. Similar to the last gvw win for vikings when they had a square surround the stone.
Having a singular objective point doesn’t really allow for FFA because at some point sides B C D ect will all try and gang up on side A.
A good starting point if people wanted to try would be to experiment with either
1) longest guild on the stone for an hour (similar to SS)
2) 3 stones spread around the village [/quote]
The format of gvw definitely needs look at.
I think 3 stones, maybe 2 inside the hut and 1 outside with the same format as SS (whichever guild tanks for longest gets gv)
With some kind of payout to other guilds who manage to get some time on a stone, to incentives guilds participating.
Its then beneficial to spend a full hour at gvw, and it could turn the entire village into a fight.
There definitely needs to be a reward system for guild participation beyond being allied to 1 of the major guilds.[/quote]
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#7 2020/05/25 13:09:00 |
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RAVENSOUL |
The guild village war mechanics are the same on this server as was on esoma, yet 20, 30, 40+ guilds were able to war freely.
It’s not the mechanics it’s the mentality of players....... Esoma gvw was constantly packed with huge turnout every week, we had our rivalry but once the war was over we congratulated the winners and went back levelling with everyone, even those we may have attacked at the gvw. We used to laugh and joke while levelling with other guilds but what happened at gvw was left there till the next week. On here if you attack certain players, they then come after you trying to hound you off the server...... Nightblades Genesis Sanctuary Titans Blackknights Rebirth Redhearted Just to name a few were able to fight freely every week, if you own the guild village you should be able to handle the fact that every other guild on the server is attacking the owners to remove them to win the village for there own guild, but like I said it’s the mentality of players on this server that can’t comprehend it’s nothing personal it’s a guild war and what happens at the guild war should stay there till the next war. Healthy rivalry is great, but the rivalry on here is disturbing and no good for the future of the game.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The guild village war mechanics are the same on this server as was on esoma, yet 20, 30, 40+ guilds were able to war freely.
It’s not the mechanics it’s the mentality of players.......
Esoma gvw was constantly packed with huge turnout every week, we had our rivalry but once the war was over we congratulated the winners and went back levelling with everyone, even those we may have attacked at the gvw. We used to laugh and joke while levelling with other guilds but what happened at gvw was left there till the next week.
On here if you attack certain players, they then come after you trying to hound you off the server......
Nightblades
Genesis
Sanctuary
Titans
Blackknights
Rebirth
Redhearted
Just to name a few were able to fight freely every week, if you own the guild village you should be able to handle the fact that every other guild on the server is attacking the owners to remove them to win the village for there own guild, but like I said it’s the mentality of players on this server that can’t comprehend it’s nothing personal it’s a guild war and what happens at the guild war should stay there till the next war.
Healthy rivalry is great, but the rivalry on here is disturbing and no good for the future of the game.
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#8 2020/05/25 14:41:08 |
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SUBXERO |
You cant compare a 100 UC game to esoma.
The UC is to low to compare it to esoma GVW Lower the UC less chance or a ffa or 3 way gvw For starters it only caters to UK timezone. Should have it so it lands on a weekend at times chinese/korea/philis/usa can attend. And GVW needs and overhall, been same for 20 years. Maybe 3 stones, a different reward for each stone e.g 1 is trace, 1 is a private crafting room with unlimited mats, 1 is private room with teleports to d4, conti mags and negamare for a quick off top of my head example. But you do not know which reward you are getting for each stone as it randomizes them each war. Stones can be spread out as well 1 inside, 1 in courtyard, 1 outside walls for example
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[quote="SUBXERO"]You cant compare a 100 UC game to esoma.
The UC is to low to compare it to esoma GVW
Lower the UC less chance or a ffa or 3 way gvw
For starters it only caters to UK timezone. Should have it so it lands on a weekend at times chinese/korea/philis/usa can attend.
And GVW needs and overhall, been same for 20 years.
Maybe 3 stones, a different reward for each stone e.g 1 is trace, 1 is a private crafting room with unlimited mats, 1 is private room with teleports to d4, conti mags and negamare for a quick off top of my head example. But you do not know which reward you are getting for each stone as it randomizes them each war.
Stones can be spread out as well 1 inside, 1 in courtyard, 1 outside walls for example
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#9 2020/05/25 14:53:09 |
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RAVENSOUL |
I stand by that the game is the same the myth of soma,
I stand by the mechanics are the same on this server and on esoma, I stand by that the fact is it’s the mentality of players. Weather the UC is 100, 200, 500+ free for all is down to mentality nothing more. Espada was constantly told, pick a side and you will be hunted off the server, until they were forced to side with one of them. I agree gvw needs a makeover, spice it up. 1 or 2 more stones to defend, the spawn area in the hall needs to be randomly placed not just the entrance part.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I stand by that the game is the same the myth of soma,
I stand by the mechanics are the same on this server and on esoma,
I stand by that the fact is it’s the mentality of players.
Weather the UC is 100, 200, 500+ free for all is down to mentality nothing more.
Espada was constantly told, pick a side and you will be hunted off the server, until they were forced to side with one of them.
I agree gvw needs a makeover, spice it up. 1 or 2 more stones to defend, the spawn area in the hall needs to be randomly placed not just the entrance part.[/quote]
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#10 2020/05/25 15:03:18 |
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OPENTHEDOOR |
Maybe trial without the debuff for winning for a month?
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#11 2020/05/25 15:05:12 |
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MERLIN |
Lower the total number available in guild, stop any and all guild hopping and actually make winning it be worth fighting for something, if the prize was good enough it would quickly break alliances imo
Work on fringe's idea I think it was, all shots fired within range of the stone targets the stone holder except for defending guild And remove death timer, either instead revive or random 0-10 sec windiw
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[quote="MERLIN"]Lower the total number available in guild, stop any and all guild hopping and actually make winning it be worth fighting for something, if the prize was good enough it would quickly break alliances imo
Work on fringe's idea I think it was, all shots fired within range of the stone targets the stone holder except for defending guild
And remove death timer, either instead revive or random 0-10 sec windiw[/quote]
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#12 2020/05/25 15:52:51 |
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HENDRIX |
"KHATUN""HENDRIX""YOSHIMIKA" Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! And you are? Hiding behind a store char? I was in no_mercy when it was created back in the test server. I rejoined soma back in feb and fancied an easy life levelling so I joined (what I thought at the time) was a neutral guild in KL Daenaerys him self knows this as I had told him before I had rejoined no_mercy. I did not level alone, I have always had the help of the few people I actually trust in game. I was apart of the original rivalry during test so I believe I have every right to comment. I get the game has moved on since then but its still very much the same. Back then I wanted more guilds involved and still now I would prefer it to have more guilds at GVW. My very last convo with Daenaerys before he got a little butt hurt I choose to go back to NM over kl and dl, was that whether KL would be a 3RD horse or just another allied guild protecting one side. He told me he was following DL regardless so I choose to go back with my original friends in NM. But regardless of that because there is idiots on both sides, it just wouldn't work!!
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[quote="HENDRIX"][quote="KHATUN"][quote="HENDRIX"][quote="YOSHIMIKA"] Nothing better than a lesser guild just somehow randomly walks into stone for the last few seconds and wins. Bring back free for all! [/quote]
Been saying this since I returned in feb and get the same response every time.. It just would not work because of the current situation were in. As a 'neutral or lesser guild' which ever side you attack first will deem you to be helping the other side... Is a shame really!![/quote]
you levelled alone til cap mate, not the best person to comment.. top bracket chicken.
you posted over and over about this, just to end up joining one of the 'only' 2 sides l0l.[/quote]
And you are? Hiding behind a store char?
I was in no_mercy when it was created back in the test server. I rejoined soma back in feb and fancied an easy life levelling so I joined (what I thought at the time) was a neutral guild in KL Daenaerys him self knows this as I had told him before I had rejoined no_mercy.
I did not level alone, I have always had the help of the few people I actually trust in game.
I was apart of the original rivalry during test so I believe I have every right to comment. I get the game has moved on since then but its still very much the same. Back then I wanted more guilds involved and still now I would prefer it to have more guilds at GVW.
My very last convo with Daenaerys before he got a little butt hurt I choose to go back to NM over kl and dl, was that whether KL would be a 3RD horse or just another allied guild protecting one side. He told me he was following DL regardless so I choose to go back with my original friends in NM.
But regardless of that because there is idiots on both sides, it just wouldn't work!![/quote]
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#13 2020/05/25 16:19:32 |
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RAVENSOUL |
Put the guild village wars back to once a week..
Alternate between the uk, asia and usa time zones to accommodate these time zones and in the fairness of the community.... Every Friday/Saturday for the hsoma/dsoma gvw? Remove the % system on owners cause it’s worthless due to it being abused/passed around to get round it. Rewards need looking at but not to the point it’s abused and becomes OP to the detriment of the rest of the server.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Put the guild village wars back to once a week..
Alternate between the uk, asia and usa time zones to accommodate these time zones and in the fairness of the community....
Every Friday/Saturday for the hsoma/dsoma gvw?
Remove the % system on owners cause it’s worthless due to it being abused/passed around to get round it.
Rewards need looking at but not to the point it’s abused and becomes OP to the detriment of the rest of the server.
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#14 2020/05/25 16:48:15 |
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YOSHIMIKA |
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