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Guild village wars - what happens at the gvw stays at the gvw?

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1. Make moral go down to -500, maybe even further. Make it so moral gains are back to what they were at the start of the server. Make it hard to get moral
2. Remove holy waters
3. Money sink. Implement a way to buy more WH spaces for bar, 5 million for 2 slots? Random number.
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[quote="DENZEL"]1. Make moral go down to -500, maybe even further. Make it so moral gains are back to what they were at the start of the server. Make it [b]hard[/b] to get moral 2. Remove holy waters 3. Money sink. Implement a way to buy more WH spaces for bar, 5 million for 2 slots? Random number.[/quote]
There’s been quiet a lot of talk about the gvw over last few weeks regarding different aspects........

But from what I’ve read both sides seem to say the same thing or reason...

Both sides only reason for going for the stone is to prevent the other side from gaining the trace function for winning the gvw......

Why not both sides agree to stay away then and let the rest of the community (guilds) have the opportunity for an hour to fight it out, test there guild against others and to have some fun?
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]There’s been quiet a lot of talk about the gvw over last few weeks regarding different aspects........ But from what I’ve read both sides seem to say the same thing or reason... Both sides only reason for going for the stone is to prevent the other side from gaining the trace function for winning the gvw...... Why not both sides agree to stay away then and let the rest of the community (guilds) have the opportunity for an hour to fight it out, test there guild against others and to have some fun?[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"There’s been quiet a lot of talk about the gvw over last few weeks regarding different aspects........

But from what I’ve read both sides seem to say the same thing or reason...

Both sides only reason for going for the stone is to prevent the other side from gaining the trace function for winning the gvw......

Why not both sides agree to stay away then and let the rest of the community (guilds) have the opportunity for an hour to fight it out, test there guild against others and to have some fun?


with all due respect Raven, why are you so scared of attending gvw? outside of 3-5 idiots on the server most of us are reasonable enough to accept ffa wars. I wouldn't support anyone from my side if they decide to attack someone who just attend to enjoy GVW
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[quote="AFROSTORE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]There’s been quiet a lot of talk about the gvw over last few weeks regarding different aspects........ But from what I’ve read both sides seem to say the same thing or reason... Both sides only reason for going for the stone is to prevent the other side from gaining the trace function for winning the gvw...... Why not both sides agree to stay away then and let the rest of the community (guilds) have the opportunity for an hour to fight it out, test there guild against others and to have some fun?[/quote] with all due respect Raven, why are you so scared of attending gvw? outside of 3-5 idiots on the server most of us are reasonable enough to accept ffa wars. I wouldn't support anyone from my side if they decide to attack someone who just attend to enjoy GVW[/quote]
I have absolutely no interest in gvw or trace, been there done it got the T-shirt esoma.......

I just thought I’d put the idea out there since both sides only real reason it seems to attending is to prevent other side winning and having trace function. So why not stay away the 2 sides and let rest of the community that would like an hour’s fun to attend in peace without any repercussions?
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I have absolutely no interest in gvw or trace, been there done it got the T-shirt esoma....... I just thought I’d put the idea out there since both sides only real reason it seems to attending is to prevent other side winning and having trace function. So why not stay away the 2 sides and let rest of the community that would like an hour’s fun to attend in peace without any repercussions?[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"I have absolutely no interest in gvw or trace, been there done it got the T-shirt esoma.......

I just thought I’d put the idea out there since both sides only real reason it seems to attending is to prevent other side winning and having trace function. So why not stay away the 2 sides and let rest of the community that would like an hour’s fun to attend in peace without any repercussions?


It's not true for everyone that the only reason we attend GVW is to stop other side from getting it.
I attend dsoma n h because I enjoy it - especially when people attend and I can record it for fun.
I haven't been able to record any gvw as VK and allies don't seem to attend when matty is not around and the rest of soma/team neutral don't attend because they cba.

Similar to wotw, aside from 2-3 neutrals I only really see DL/VK attending so I can only imagine the people who cba with wotw will also not bother with gvw.

EDIT: a recent WotW - if both sides don't attend gvw it will just be a 2v2 carebear fighting
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[quote="AFROSTORE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]I have absolutely no interest in gvw or trace, been there done it got the T-shirt esoma....... I just thought I’d put the idea out there since both sides only real reason it seems to attending is to prevent other side winning and having trace function. So why not stay away the 2 sides and let rest of the community that would like an hour’s fun to attend in peace without any repercussions?[/quote] It's not true for everyone that the only reason we attend GVW is to stop other side from getting it. I attend dsoma n h because I enjoy it - especially when people attend and I can record it for fun. I haven't been able to record any gvw as VK and allies don't seem to attend when matty is not around and the rest of soma/team neutral don't attend because they cba. Similar to wotw, aside from 2-3 neutrals I only really see DL/VK attending so I can only imagine the people who cba with wotw will also not bother with gvw. EDIT: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmUvRpox-A]a recent WotW[/url] - if both sides don't attend gvw it will just be a 2v2 carebear fighting [/quote]
I do know there are many players from both sides that do in fact treat the gvw as abit of fun and do not seek retribution for being hit during the gvw, it’s just a shame everyone doesn’t do this also because if all players left what happens at the gvw at the gvw I do believe more players would take part and we all know that more players at any gvw is great and creates great battles and entertainment for everyone.



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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I do know there are many players from both sides that do in fact treat the gvw as abit of fun and do not seek retribution for being hit during the gvw, it’s just a shame everyone doesn’t do this also because if all players left what happens at the gvw at the gvw I do believe more players would take part and we all know that more players at any gvw is great and creates great battles and entertainment for everyone. [/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"I do know there are many players from both sides that do in fact treat the gvw as abit of fun and do not seek retribution for being hit during the gvw, it’s just a shame everyone doesn’t do this also because if all players left what happens at the gvw at the gvw I do believe more players would take part and we all know that more players at any gvw is great and creates great battles and entertainment for everyone.





Spoke to both Jong and gene and DL/Outlawz have no problem with any neutral attending GVW and having a FFA.
The only thing that will be annoying is if all the "neutrals" team up with the other side to completely attack our side. If you guys intend to attend for FFA and attack anyone and everyone for the fun of it then we can manage any retribution from our side.

Cant speak for VK though.
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[quote="AFROSTORE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]I do know there are many players from both sides that do in fact treat the gvw as abit of fun and do not seek retribution for being hit during the gvw, it’s just a shame everyone doesn’t do this also because if all players left what happens at the gvw at the gvw I do believe more players would take part and we all know that more players at any gvw is great and creates great battles and entertainment for everyone. [/quote] Spoke to both Jong and gene and DL/Outlawz have no problem with any neutral attending GVW and having a FFA. The only thing that will be annoying is if all the "neutrals" team up with the other side to completely attack our side. If you guys intend to attend for FFA and attack anyone and everyone for the fun of it then we can manage any retribution from our side. Cant speak for VK though. [/quote]
But that’s the problem that the neutrals face, in that whoever is on the stone and there guild/alliances are surrounding there player on stone, that to get onto the stone the neutral player will always be classified as helping the other side and it’s this reason why neutrals mostly stay away cause no matter what happens they get accused of helping 1 side or the other side.

It’s a never ending circle, take part get accused of helping 1 of the sides, take part and get harassed and in some cases driven off the server.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]But that’s the problem that the neutrals face, in that whoever is on the stone and there guild/alliances are surrounding there player on stone, that to get onto the stone the neutral player will always be classified as helping the other side and it’s this reason why neutrals mostly stay away cause no matter what happens they get accused of helping 1 side or the other side. It’s a never ending circle, take part get accused of helping 1 of the sides, take part and get harassed and in some cases driven off the server.[/quote]
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"RAVENSOUL"But that’s the problem that the neutrals face, in that whoever is on the stone and there guild/alliances are surrounding there player on stone, that to get onto the stone the neutral player will always be classified as helping the other side and it’s this reason why neutrals mostly stay away cause no matter what happens they get accused of helping 1 side or the other side.

It’s a never ending circle, take part get accused of helping 1 of the sides, take part and get harassed and in some cases driven off the server.


I think your over thinking it... neutrals that attend and hit stone holder and whoever around it should not be a problem.. its a problem if the other side get near the stone and wiping one side whilst neutral are still only attacking one side.. feel free to weaken and drop stone holder but if your constantly just attacking that one side even after stone holder is dead then there is a problem or if you only attending when one side is winning but not around when vk are holding it etc

My advice just attend and see how it goes, don't worry about some online bullies who may or may not attack you character in game. I honestly don't think there is a reason for this whole topic.

When I went FFA on Outlawz I do agree 2-3 idiots ruined it and their guild just decided to suck them off and back them.. my preference was a 3 way/ffa battle but DL/Outlawz/KL/Faint are mature enough to keep gvw fun... again I cant speak for the other side but when they fkd up and attacked outlawz they just created alliance between my lot and DL and now it vk are constantly losing it - I would think no side wants to make enemies with 10-15 active neutrals joining just for fun.
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[quote="AFROSTORE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]But that’s the problem that the neutrals face, in that whoever is on the stone and there guild/alliances are surrounding there player on stone, that to get onto the stone the neutral player will always be classified as helping the other side and it’s this reason why neutrals mostly stay away cause no matter what happens they get accused of helping 1 side or the other side. It’s a never ending circle, take part get accused of helping 1 of the sides, take part and get harassed and in some cases driven off the server.[/quote] I think your over thinking it... neutrals that attend and hit stone holder and whoever around it should not be a problem.. its a problem if the other side get near the stone and wiping one side whilst neutral are still only attacking one side.. feel free to weaken and drop stone holder but if your constantly just attacking that one side even after stone holder is dead then there is a problem or if you only attending when one side is winning but not around when vk are holding it etc My advice just attend and see how it goes, don't worry about some online bullies who may or may not attack you character in game. I honestly don't think there is a reason for this whole topic. When I went FFA on Outlawz I do agree 2-3 idiots ruined it and their guild just decided to suck them off and back them.. my preference was a 3 way/ffa battle but DL/Outlawz/KL/Faint are mature enough to keep gvw fun... again I cant speak for the other side but when they fkd up and attacked outlawz they just created alliance between my lot and DL and now it vk are constantly losing it - I would think no side wants to make enemies with 10-15 active neutrals joining just for fun.[/quote]
raven no disrespect but i've honestly never seen you once attend gvw. just get a group together and start attending and youll see no 'retribution' at all
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[quote="LUTHER"]raven no disrespect but i've honestly never seen you once attend gvw. just get a group together and start attending and youll see no 'retribution' at all[/quote]
As I’ve said for me personally I have no interest in gvw, but I know a lot of players I’ve spoken to in my time on this server is they enjoyed the gvw on esoma and some have attended the gvw on this server, sadly some are no longer here due to being hounded, harassed and run off the server. Some of these players don’t even post on the forums for the fact a small minority will hunt them down for speaking up or voicing there views.

Now I know the majority of players on this server are mature enough to treat the gvw as it should be a bit of fun and it’s nothing personal if you get hit during the gvw but for others they take it beyond fun and turn it into a personal vendetta against anyone that dare hit them during gvw.

As my previous post pointed out a neutral player/guild is in a no win situation no matter what. If they try attacking any player surrounding the player on the stone to make room and work there way to the stone there accused of helping the attacking side, if they hit any of the attacking side there accused of helping the defenders,

No win, so they don’t go to take part in the gvw that should be for every guild in soma to be able to take part.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]As I’ve said for me personally I have no interest in gvw, but I know a lot of players I’ve spoken to in my time on this server is they enjoyed the gvw on esoma and some have attended the gvw on this server, sadly some are no longer here due to being hounded, harassed and run off the server. Some of these players don’t even post on the forums for the fact a small minority will hunt them down for speaking up or voicing there views. Now I know the majority of players on this server are mature enough to treat the gvw as it should be a bit of fun and it’s nothing personal if you get hit during the gvw but for others they take it beyond fun and turn it into a personal vendetta against anyone that dare hit them during gvw. As my previous post pointed out a neutral player/guild is in a no win situation no matter what. If they try attacking any player surrounding the player on the stone to make room and work there way to the stone there accused of helping the attacking side, if they hit any of the attacking side there accused of helping the defenders, No win, so they don’t go to take part in the gvw that should be for every guild in soma to be able to take part.[/quote]

 

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