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I just want to query the drop rates on Small Diamonds because I have spent hours upon hours farming Devil Fish with VERY little return. It bugs me fiercely when I see people comment about getting 2 SDs within 3 DF or getting 2 an hour when I stay at DF for 6 hours using 8 SRs and don't receive 1. I think the drop rates are ridiculous and need to be reviewed.

I've never created a post before this and didn't actually think I ever would but this is silly now and it's effecting the game for me because I can't progress without them. I'm not sure what to write either but just giving my experience, I hope this opens someone's eyes.
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[quote="SNOTTYMAN"]I just want to query the drop rates on Small Diamonds because I have spent hours upon hours farming Devil Fish with VERY little return. It bugs me fiercely when I see people comment about getting 2 SDs within 3 DF or getting 2 an hour when I stay at DF for 6 hours using 8 SRs and don't receive 1. I think the drop rates are ridiculous and need to be reviewed. I've never created a post before this and didn't actually think I ever would but this is silly now and it's effecting the game for me because I can't progress without them. I'm not sure what to write either but just giving my experience, I hope this opens someone's eyes.[/quote]
"SNOTTYMAN"I just want to query the drop rates on Small Diamonds because I have spent hours upon hours farming Devil Fish with VERY little return. It bugs me fiercely when I see people comment about getting 2 SDs within 3 DF or getting 2 an hour when I stay at DF for 6 hours using 8 SRs and don't receive 1. I think the drop rates are ridiculous and need to be reviewed.

I've never created a post before this and didn't actually think I ever would but this is silly now and it's effecting the game for me because I can't progress without them. I'm not sure what to write either but just giving my experience, I hope this opens someone's eyes.


Drop rates in general are poop last 3 negas i went including azure staff and psycho bow tier drops. last nega was 1 azure staff rare. should be legendary if osmething like that drops

Also done 9k dura at palus for 1 dried frog . Hardly any economy left on human soma right now tbh. Feel the usercount has taken a hit again. done 3 attempts to farm but to tideous like this,

I leave tyt for guild mags hunt as only way i enjoy farming them and tried getitng back to farming sd but afer 9 hours for 2 sd reall put me off and more detered by 3 hours this mornign and 1 dried frog.
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[quote="DAENAERYS"][quote="SNOTTYMAN"]I just want to query the drop rates on Small Diamonds because I have spent hours upon hours farming Devil Fish with VERY little return. It bugs me fiercely when I see people comment about getting 2 SDs within 3 DF or getting 2 an hour when I stay at DF for 6 hours using 8 SRs and don't receive 1. I think the drop rates are ridiculous and need to be reviewed. I've never created a post before this and didn't actually think I ever would but this is silly now and it's effecting the game for me because I can't progress without them. I'm not sure what to write either but just giving my experience, I hope this opens someone's eyes.[/quote] Drop rates in general are poop last 3 negas i went including azure staff and psycho bow tier drops. last nega was 1 azure staff rare. should be legendary if osmething like that drops Also done 9k dura at palus for 1 dried frog . Hardly any economy left on human soma right now tbh. Feel the usercount has taken a hit again. done 3 attempts to farm but to tideous like this, I leave tyt for guild mags hunt as only way i enjoy farming them and tried getitng back to farming sd but afer 9 hours for 2 sd reall put me off and more detered by 3 hours this mornign and 1 dried frog. [/quote]
I agree droprates are not encouraging enough atm.

The game is a lot more fun if the -endless grinds- at least have a goal (getting some drops from time to time)
I had 1 hard nega spear and 2 rare nega sword on 6k elder mags :s (even half of those in x2) thats not much :P. (which break 4 out of 5 on +3/4 ofc.)

upgrading above +2 is really a pain at these droprates :/ imagine failing an SS at oven + the actual SS fails, thats 18 sds: about 25 hours of farming palus/DF, if lucky. thats insane.

Imo increasing droprates with only 1.25 - 1.3 would be a huge diff, and usercount will raise with 30-50% again.

Leveling rates are fine.
Droprates are not :/
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[quote="GANDEH"]I agree droprates are not encouraging enough atm. The game is a lot more fun if the -endless grinds- at least have a goal (getting some drops from time to time) I had 1 hard nega spear and 2 rare nega sword on 6k elder mags :s (even half of those in x2) thats not much :P. (which break 4 out of 5 on +3/4 ofc.) upgrading above +2 is really a pain at these droprates :/ imagine failing an SS at oven + the actual SS fails, thats 18 sds: about 25 hours of farming palus/DF, if lucky. thats insane. [b]Imo increasing droprates with only 1.25 - 1.3 would be a huge diff, and usercount will raise with 30-50% again.[/b] Leveling rates are fine. Droprates are not :/[/quote]
ss's used to be rare as fuk as did diamonds in general..ish
things been so easy round here lately... hence all the +5+ weps around ..
not sure making things easier is the way forward...tho , if other ppl have it and you don't..then that don't seem fair..so...
no idea ;p
maybe if them botters hadn't took the pee at df/palus during x2 then the drop rates there might not have had a nerf. Were they named and shamed? identified? banned? reinstated? no idea.. im just going off hearsay.. could be totally wrong.. x
It's the ''little things'' , like cheating, buying and botting that put many players off investing more time here.. gm's can't police everything all the time.. so if some players wana ruin it for the others.. not a lot can be done about it..
* over and out *
( that means shuttin up 4 a while, not leaving.. waiting for more levels tho )
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]ss's used to be rare as fuk as did diamonds in general..ish things been so easy round here lately... hence all the +5+ weps around .. not sure making things easier is the way forward...tho , if other ppl have it and you don't..then that don't seem fair..so... no idea ;p maybe if them botters hadn't took the pee at df/palus during x2 then the drop rates there might not have had a nerf. Were they named and shamed? identified? banned? reinstated? no idea.. im just going off hearsay.. could be totally wrong.. x It's the ''little things'' , like cheating, buying and botting that put many players off investing more time here.. gm's can't police everything all the time.. so if some players wana ruin it for the others.. not a lot can be done about it.. * over and out * ( that means shuttin up 4 a while, not leaving.. waiting for more levels tho )[/quote]
I deffo feel your pain. I’m stuck at a level atm where I need some upgrades and to trade for items but can’t even get daily marks for where I’m hunting at as I’m above the level for the quest. So I could not get stats and grind for items but wish I could be doing both.

The freemode is a great move forward however as you can now complete quests while hunting and getting rested so I think this will help a little deffo and shows Gm’s listening to what is being said to improve the game.

The economy is 100% less active now the x2 has finished but surely that’s expected, and maybe an up in drop rates is needed, I don’t know what the answer is. I think I read somewhere that the while there has been rate increases for levelling I don’t think these were matched on the drop side.

Feel your pain, just have to try and get drops from levelling mate, I don’t know if your capped or not. If you are then I guess just need to be lucky at mags.

Would love a drop rate increase again, but that does then just increase the price of everything anyway lol so catch 22
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[quote="FN"]I deffo feel your pain. I’m stuck at a level atm where I need some upgrades and to trade for items but can’t even get daily marks for where I’m hunting at as I’m above the level for the quest. So I could not get stats and grind for items but wish I could be doing both. The freemode is a great move forward however as you can now complete quests while hunting and getting rested so I think this will help a little deffo and shows Gm’s listening to what is being said to improve the game. The economy is 100% less active now the x2 has finished but surely that’s expected, and maybe an up in drop rates is needed, I don’t know what the answer is. I think I read somewhere that the while there has been rate increases for levelling I don’t think these were matched on the drop side. Feel your pain, just have to try and get drops from levelling mate, I don’t know if your capped or not. If you are then I guess just need to be lucky at mags. Would love a drop rate increase again, but that does then just increase the price of everything anyway lol so catch 22 [/quote]
SD drop rate's so random. sometimes it would take 50 minutes for me to get a single SD when 2x was on... other times I would have several within a few lucky minutes. That's just my experience with 2x rates anyways.

And yeah I have to agree with gandeh, failing SS at oven without 2x on is some hurtful shit lol. Grind literally goes out of the window and it is very off putting, especially as trading is "dead" (to some extent) you're kinda forced to endure the poor drop rates to get diamonds yourself now.
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[quote="STOREMYSHIT"]SD drop rate's so random. sometimes it would take 50 minutes for me to get a single SD when 2x was on... other times I would have several within a few lucky minutes. That's just my experience with 2x rates anyways. And yeah I have to agree with gandeh, failing SS at oven without 2x on is some hurtful shit lol. Grind literally goes out of the window and it is very off putting, especially as trading is "dead" (to some extent) you're kinda forced to endure the poor drop rates to get diamonds yourself now.[/quote]
I am sure this was discussed when people wanted leveling rates increased myself and a few others mentioned this that the drops should be increased as opposed to leveling based on many will cap without any items/mats but was not considered.
(Taking into consideration at the time the +2 buff which was in talks too)

At the time people wanted leveling speeds increased and [b]GM did this to meet user count demand.
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Seems now as most are capped now your needs are to increase drops.

Many has battled through this when the server was a lot tougher before which 3 people in this thread i think can relate too (lupi, gandeh & FN) but on the flip side hunting grounds were busier so maybe drops where a little better then..

My question is what happens when the next gen chars come out or new players who want faster leveling and then drops (its a constant cycle)

Lots of threads at the moment when I log in here of this and that few going on at present:
- The official Myth of Soma Discord channel
- Myth of Soma Elections
- Small Diamond drop rate
- tped to GV

Think many new capped chars need to just play this game for what it is and what you are given and ask for reasonable requests rather than constant moaning or take a break like many do and play again?

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[quote="YAGUDO"]I am sure this was discussed when people wanted leveling rates increased myself and a few others mentioned this that the drops should be increased as opposed to leveling based on many will cap without any items/mats but was not considered. (Taking into consideration at the time the +2 buff which was in talks too) At the time people wanted leveling speeds increased and [b]GM did this to meet user count demand. [/b] Seems now as most are capped now your needs are to increase drops. Many has battled through this when the server was a lot tougher before which 3 people in this thread i think can relate too (lupi, gandeh & FN) but on the flip side hunting grounds were busier so maybe drops where a little better then.. My question is what happens when the next gen chars come out or new players who want faster leveling and then drops (its a constant cycle) Lots of threads at the moment when I log in here of this and that few going on at present: - The official Myth of Soma Discord channel - Myth of Soma Elections - Small Diamond drop rate - tped to GV Think many new capped chars need to just play this game for what it is and what you are given and ask for reasonable requests rather than constant moaning or take a break like many do and play again? [/quote]
I posted this thread and it was mainly for the reason that I have spent 14 hours in the last 2 days at DF now for 1 SD... there is a point to which it changes from being unlucky to being an absolute joke. I'm not capped (95) and I honestly can't buy ANYTHING from anyone because the gear I need to progress is always "SD this and Med ruby that" and my reply 99% of the time is "I don't have those". What am I supposed to do if im giving 14 hours of my time, using all my SRs and weapons constantly just trying to get SDs so I can buy items from others to progress.... there is no progressing if that's the case....

I wasn't around when all the level bonus over drops bonus was discussed, I actually have never posted on here and have never looked through it. I just found that if I didn't say anything, i'd end up resenting the game and just quitting.... far to much time for little to no reward...
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[quote="SNOTTYMAN"]I posted this thread and it was mainly for the reason that I have spent 14 hours in the last 2 days at DF now for 1 SD... there is a point to which it changes from being unlucky to being an absolute joke. I'm not capped (95) and I honestly can't buy ANYTHING from anyone because the gear I need to progress is always "SD this and Med ruby that" and my reply 99% of the time is "I don't have those". What am I supposed to do if im giving 14 hours of my time, using all my SRs and weapons constantly just trying to get SDs so I can buy items from others to progress.... there is no progressing if that's the case.... I wasn't around when all the level bonus over drops bonus was discussed, I actually have never posted on here and have never looked through it. I just found that if I didn't say anything, i'd end up resenting the game and just quitting.... far to much time for little to no reward... [/quote]
Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count.
Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains.
Conclusion. No win win.
The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed.
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[quote="BLAG"]Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count. Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains. Conclusion. No win win. The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed. [/quote]
"BLAG"Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count.
Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains.
Conclusion. No win win.
The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed.


+1 to drop rate and user count correlation
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[quote="DAENAERYS"][quote="BLAG"]Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count. Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains. Conclusion. No win win. The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed. [/quote] +1 to drop rate and user count correlation [/quote]
"DAENAERYS"
"BLAG"Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count.
Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains.
Conclusion. No win win.
The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed.


+1 to drop rate and user count correlation


That's not true.
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[quote="ROCH"][quote="DAENAERYS"][quote="BLAG"]Things I've noticed in the last week regarding drops. I've decided to level up my original character Rico along with Bag. Rico is a first generation character with low stats, particularly dex in modern terms. So doing dex at trolls.the only mob I can hunt to progress. In quiet times leveling is good but drops are poor. Busy times slower but better drops. Bit like the guild hunt son esoma ess hunting. It's appears that drop rates are related to user count. Similarly Blag has being levelling int. Prismatic drop a few frogs again when busy. Moving to abais nms all alone poor spawn rate. Not one frog in over 1 int gains. Conclusion. No win win. The grind in itself without compensationary drops affects user count. Leveling is fast enough with the increase in rested. Drop rates should be addressed. [/quote] +1 to drop rate and user count correlation [/quote] That's not true.[/quote]
Not total user count of server, just local hunt spawns
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[quote="BLAG"]Not total user count of server, just local hunt spawns [/quote]
from my experience at DF when i was trying to get the essence wich took me like 5 straight days, its all RNG i would go hours with 0 diamonds then all of sudden 3 drop then hours then 2 drop etc i would get 7 sd a day whilst playing at work. how ever i was only after the ess so trying to stomach hunting them after that goal is impossible.
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[quote="FRIEZA"]from my experience at DF when i was trying to get the essence wich took me like 5 straight days, its all RNG i would go hours with 0 diamonds then all of sudden 3 drop then hours then 2 drop etc i would get 7 sd a day whilst playing at work. how ever i was only after the ess so trying to stomach hunting them after that goal is impossible.[/quote]
Humans whinging at drop rate should try farm on dsoma. These threads always pop up and its the same people involved.
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[quote="TESO"]Humans whinging at drop rate should try farm on dsoma. These threads always pop up and its the same people involved.[/quote]
"TESO"Humans whinging at drop rate should try farm on dsoma. These threads always pop up and its the same people involved.


Funny snottyman is a reutnring player whos not used forum before this. sure its ip logged tho to be checked
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[quote="DAENAERYS"][quote="TESO"]Humans whinging at drop rate should try farm on dsoma. These threads always pop up and its the same people involved.[/quote] Funny snottyman is a reutnring player whos not used forum before this. sure its ip logged tho to be checked[/quote]

 

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