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MAGEY |
as the title says
I get 1 nega wep per 1000 elders roughly, just getting them hard instead of untagged would not be game changing just give us a little more reward for grinding them out |
#1 2020/08/10 16:46:43 |
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CORLEONE |
+1 - remove all untagged weapons from drops and add them to shop
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#2 2020/08/10 18:48:49 |
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#3 2020/08/10 18:49:32 | |
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RYUZAKI |
-1
If all drop hard tag it wont be long before everyone has OP nega weaps due to combine. It's good to have something to work towards. Besides if they change it to just drop hard tag people will be wanting min rare tag drops in a few months... Edit: I don't have a single nega weap, not even untagged...
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[quote="RYUZAKI"]-1
If all drop hard tag it wont be long before everyone has OP nega weaps due to combine. It's good to have something to work towards.
Besides if they change it to just drop hard tag people will be wanting min rare tag drops in a few months...
Edit: I don't have a single nega weap, not even untagged...[/quote]
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#4 2020/08/10 20:17:48 |
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FRIEZA |
+1
i think you must have had some crazy luck to have that opinion ryu, combine is a bitch that eats away at majority of attempts, i would like to see untags removed also. |
#5 2020/08/11 08:11:55 |
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5TORE |
If I recall the tagged versions aren't individual items, so removing the base untag would remove the weapon completely, not sure its possible to remove just untags
Could be wrong, memory aint what it was ;p |
#6 2020/08/11 08:15:00 |
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MAGEY |
"5TORE"If I recall the tagged versions aren't individual items, so removing the base untag would remove the weapon completely, not sure its possible to remove just untags bosses only drop rare+ versions of the weapons so assume it's totally possible to make elders only drop hard+ nega weps.
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[quote="MAGEY"][quote="5TORE"]If I recall the tagged versions aren't individual items, so removing the base untag would remove the weapon completely, not sure its possible to remove just untags
Could be wrong, memory aint what it was ;p[/quote]
bosses only drop rare+ versions of the weapons
so assume it's totally possible to make elders only drop hard+ nega weps.
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#7 2020/08/11 08:48:09 |
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RYUZAKI |
"FRIEZA"+1 Nope, my combines almost always fail and like I said, I don't even have a nega weap. Speeding up the process of getting decent endgame weaps will just shorten what little endgame there is imo leading to bored users leading to lower UC. Just my opinion though!
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[quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="FRIEZA"]+1
i think you must have had some crazy luck to have that opinion ryu, combine is a bitch that eats away at majority of attempts, i would like to see untags removed also.[/quote]
Nope, my combines almost always fail and like I said, I don't even have a nega weap.
Speeding up the process of getting decent endgame weaps will just shorten what little endgame there is imo leading to bored users leading to lower UC.
Just my opinion though![/quote]
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#8 2020/08/11 12:24:04 |
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MAGEY |
"RYUZAKI""FRIEZA"+1 i did 850 mags yesterday (looking at roughly 7 hours? (was probably more) i got 1 untag nega spear under the new system for my days grind i would have acquired 1 hard nega spear (hardly game breaking) today i have farmed zero mags i have only attended nega which took 10 minutes and resulted in a rare spear (unlucky to get 1 wep) I also attended garshuk which took 6 minutes to kill and dropped 3 rare nega weps The change wouldn't massively change the amount of tagged nega weps ingame, it would if anything help people to farm end game mobs who aren't online 24/7 for bosses
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[quote="MAGEY"][quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="FRIEZA"]+1
i think you must have had some crazy luck to have that opinion ryu, combine is a bitch that eats away at majority of attempts, i would like to see untags removed also.[/quote]
Nope, my combines almost always fail and like I said, I don't even have a nega weap.
Speeding up the process of getting decent endgame weaps will just shorten what little endgame there is imo leading to bored users leading to lower UC.
Just my opinion though![/quote]
i did 850 mags yesterday (looking at roughly 7 hours? (was probably more) i got 1 untag nega spear
under the new system for my days grind i would have acquired 1 hard nega spear (hardly game breaking)
today i have farmed zero mags
i have only attended nega which took 10 minutes and resulted in a rare spear (unlucky to get 1 wep)
I also attended garshuk which took 6 minutes to kill and dropped 3 rare nega weps
The change wouldn't massively change the amount of tagged nega weps ingame, it would if anything help people to farm end game mobs who aren't online 24/7 for bosses[/quote]
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#9 2020/08/11 13:18:35 |
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RYUZAKI |
"MAGEY""RYUZAKI""FRIEZA"+1 But they're boss tier weaps. They shouldn't be easy to get from "normal" mobs. I get that elders are tough as balls but the drop file reflects that. You say you farmed mags for at least 7 hours, how many T8s passed in that time? 1 or 2? If this change is implemented elders will be packed 24/7 which will slow your grind considerably. Maybe as a trade off they could drop only hard tag nega weaps to make it a bit more balanced. No chance for rare/epic/int/lego/myth.
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[quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="MAGEY"][quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="FRIEZA"]+1
i think you must have had some crazy luck to have that opinion ryu, combine is a bitch that eats away at majority of attempts, i would like to see untags removed also.[/quote]
Nope, my combines almost always fail and like I said, I don't even have a nega weap.
Speeding up the process of getting decent endgame weaps will just shorten what little endgame there is imo leading to bored users leading to lower UC.
Just my opinion though![/quote]
i did 850 mags yesterday (looking at roughly 7 hours? (was probably more) i got 1 untag nega spear
under the new system for my days grind i would have acquired 1 hard nega spear (hardly game breaking)
today i have farmed zero mags
i have only attended nega which took 10 minutes and resulted in a rare spear (unlucky to get 1 wep)
I also attended garshuk which took 6 minutes to kill and dropped 3 rare nega weps
The change wouldn't massively change the amount of tagged nega weps ingame, it would if anything help people to farm end game mobs who aren't online 24/7 for bosses[/quote]
But they're boss tier weaps. They shouldn't be easy to get from "normal" mobs. I get that elders are tough as balls but the drop file reflects that.
You say you farmed mags for at least 7 hours, how many T8s passed in that time? 1 or 2?
If this change is implemented elders will be packed 24/7 which will slow your grind considerably.
Maybe as a trade off they could drop only hard tag nega weaps to make it a bit more balanced. No chance for rare/epic/int/lego/myth.
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#10 2020/08/11 15:28:20 |
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MAGEY |
"RYUZAKI""MAGEY""RYUZAKI""FRIEZA"+1 Basically your saying to further my char i should play less... and do what lots of people now do and solely log on on for nega and then log off? - which really doesn't help the game in anyway shape or form. elders aren't a 'normal mob' as you cannot gain stats on them wasn't 7 hours straight was across the day so 4 nega's passed, seen nega drop 4 weps so could of been 16 rare weps in same time...as me wanting to have seen a hard drop from elders. for a boss that only a select group can get last hit on ( you look at last 200 nega's probably no more than 20-25 different char users have killed it) i can promise you this change will not make elders packed, the chance for 1 hard weapon in 7 hours.... or i can log on for 10 mins and try get 4 at a boss (which has been made easier so capped players can bring 2+ chars) You obviously haven't farmed many elders / realise the time involved killing them, I've killed over 13k now and had about 5 Rare weapons and nothing higher. If elders were worth farming you'd see more capped players playing rather than quitting / doing pk laps and logging off your also hsoma player, nega weapons on dsoma have to be Intense to even be worth considered using as anything below is worse than the tier below it's not like hsoma where rare nega weapons are already better than psy tier items. this is certainly a positive change for the game but i respect your opinion.
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[quote="MAGEY"][quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="MAGEY"][quote="RYUZAKI"][quote="FRIEZA"]+1
i think you must have had some crazy luck to have that opinion ryu, combine is a bitch that eats away at majority of attempts, i would like to see untags removed also.[/quote]
Nope, my combines almost always fail and like I said, I don't even have a nega weap.
Speeding up the process of getting decent endgame weaps will just shorten what little endgame there is imo leading to bored users leading to lower UC.
Just my opinion though![/quote]
i did 850 mags yesterday (looking at roughly 7 hours? (was probably more) i got 1 untag nega spear
under the new system for my days grind i would have acquired 1 hard nega spear (hardly game breaking)
today i have farmed zero mags
i have only attended nega which took 10 minutes and resulted in a rare spear (unlucky to get 1 wep)
I also attended garshuk which took 6 minutes to kill and dropped 3 rare nega weps
The change wouldn't massively change the amount of tagged nega weps ingame, it would if anything help people to farm end game mobs who aren't online 24/7 for bosses[/quote]
But they're boss tier weaps. They shouldn't be easy to get from "normal" mobs. I get that elders are tough as balls but the drop file reflects that.
You say you farmed mags for at least 7 hours, how many T8s passed in that time? 1 or 2?
If this change is implemented elders will be packed 24/7 which will slow your grind considerably.
Maybe as a trade off they could drop only hard tag nega weaps to make it a bit more balanced. No chance for rare/epic/int/lego/myth.
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Basically your saying to further my char i should play less... and do what lots of people now do and solely log on on for nega and then log off? - which really doesn't help the game in anyway shape or form.
elders aren't a 'normal mob' as you cannot gain stats on them
wasn't 7 hours straight was across the day so 4 nega's passed, seen nega drop 4 weps so could of been 16 rare weps in same time...as me wanting to have seen a hard drop from elders. for a boss that only a select group can get last hit on ( you look at last 200 nega's probably no more than 20-25 different char users have killed it)
i can promise you this change will not make elders packed, the chance for 1 hard weapon in 7 hours.... or i can log on for 10 mins and try get 4 at a boss (which has been made easier so capped players can bring 2+ chars)
You obviously haven't farmed many elders / realise the time involved killing them, I've killed over 13k now and had about 5 Rare weapons and nothing higher.
If elders were worth farming you'd see more capped players playing rather than quitting / doing pk laps and logging off
your also hsoma player, nega weapons on dsoma have to be Intense to even be worth considered using as anything below is worse than the tier below it's not like hsoma where rare nega weapons are already better than psy tier items.
this is certainly a positive change for the game but i respect your opinion.
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#11 2020/08/11 16:33:38 |
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H4WKEYE |
+1 bin off untag weps, they literally go straight to npc, specially dsoma
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#12 2020/08/11 16:45:40 |
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SPARKS |
+1 also agree with the removal of untagged completely from high end mobs
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#13 2020/08/11 22:48:05 |
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TYPHIN |
+1 remove untags from mobs
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#14 2020/08/12 06:38:51 |
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MICKYC |
swapping the drop rate for untagged with hard drop rate would be a quick and effective quick fix
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#15 2020/08/12 10:15:43 |
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