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What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war.

Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild.

"H4WKEYE"2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up


This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.
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[quote="OGC"]What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war. Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild. [quote="H4WKEYE"]2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up[/quote] This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.[/quote]
Name change has completely ruined the game for me, it was my favourite event now it's just confusing and frustrating.
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[quote="BLIGHT"]Name change has completely ruined the game for me, it was my favourite event now it's just confusing and frustrating.[/quote]
Very valid point OGC.
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[quote="MIKELOWREY"]Very valid point OGC.[/quote]
"OGC"What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war.

Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild.

"H4WKEYE"2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up


This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.


Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur?

SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 gvws....no debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid
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[quote="4634"][quote="OGC"]What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war. Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild. [quote="H4WKEYE"]2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up[/quote] This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.[/quote] Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur? SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 gvws....no debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid [/quote]
"4634"
"OGC"What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war.

Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild.

"H4WKEYE"2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up


This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.


Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur?

SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 gvws....no debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid


Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment.

My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be.

If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.
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[quote="OGC"][quote="4634"][quote="OGC"]What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war. Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild. [quote="H4WKEYE"]2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up[/quote] This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.[/quote] Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur? SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 gvws....no debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid [/quote] Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment. My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be. If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.[/quote]
"OGC"
"4634"
"OGC"What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war.

Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild.

"H4WKEYE"2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up


This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.


Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur?

SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 <a href="http://gvws....no">gvws....no</a> debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid


Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment.

My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be.

If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.



Well clearly you over looked other comments, because its been suggested the cool down be added to the player rather than guild. your point is sitl linvalid as you need to win gvw consectuveily for the debuff to take affect.
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[quote="4634"][quote="OGC"][quote="4634"][quote="OGC"]What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war. Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild. [quote="H4WKEYE"]2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up[/quote] This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.[/quote] Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur? SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 <a href="http://gvws....no">gvws....no</a> debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid [/quote] Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment. My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be. If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.[/quote] Well clearly you over looked other comments, because its been suggested the cool down be added to the player rather than guild. your point is sitl linvalid as you need to win gvw consectuveily for the debuff to take affect. [/quote]
"4634"
"OGC"
"4634"
"OGC"What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war.

Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild.

"H4WKEYE"2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up


This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.


Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur?

SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 <a href="http://gvws....no">gvws....no</a> debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid


Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment.

My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be.

If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.



Well clearly you over looked other comments, because its been suggested the cool down be added to the player rather than guild. your point is sitl linvalid as you need to win gvw consectuveily for the debuff to take affect.


And if you read my comment at the top of the page PROPERLY. You'll see if any cool down is added at all, regardless of if its added to just the player or the entire guild it wont make a difference. All people have to do is transfer armour from one guild to another. Simple. It's not hard to understand, albeit you do have the reading capacity of a 6 year old.

So no, I didn't over look the other comments.
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[quote="OGC"][quote="4634"][quote="OGC"][quote="4634"][quote="OGC"]What's the issue with guild hopping? Koreanz do it every war they attend, they leave UFG immediately after the war. Lets say a guild swap cooldown is put in place. What's stopping the tank transferring his gear to another str mage char in the allied guild and they swap characters for the hour. Essentially the same character, moved to a different guild. [quote="H4WKEYE"]2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up[/quote] This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever read.[/quote] Dont the win need to occur for the % debuff to occur? SO if no consectuive wins then no harm in joining a guild. i mean you guys have done it for 250 <a href="http://gvws....no">gvws....no</a> debuff to hop from = no issue. your point is invalid [/quote] Refer back to page 4, last comment, you'll see my comment about guild hopping was in response to H4wkeye's comment. My comment is valid because it proves how useless/time wasting implementing a guild join cooldown would be. If you're going to come here and type as if you've just head butted the keyboard and hoped for the best while not providing any useful conversation to the topic, then please don't comment at all.[/quote] Well clearly you over looked other comments, because its been suggested the cool down be added to the player rather than guild. your point is sitl linvalid as you need to win gvw consectuveily for the debuff to take affect. [/quote] And if you read my comment at the top of the page PROPERLY. You'll see if any cool down is added at all, regardless of if its added to just the player or the entire guild it wont make a difference. All people have to do is transfer armour from one guild to another. Simple. It's not hard to understand, albeit you do have the reading capacity of a 6 year old. So no, I didn't over look the other comments.[/quote]
"OGC"
Since when has Korea ever had an issue with being online at 3-4AM local time? They live and breathe Soma and always manage to attend bosses around this time if GVW isn't on, I don't think being online at this time is anything out of the ordinary?

All other excuses are piss poor. I was told once by someone on your side, you don't turn and because... I quote "we have to many str mages". Now you're telling me people don't turn up because we have too many people. Here's some news for you, if people don't turn up, we're going to have too many... lol

Seems to me you chose the wrong side, shitters who want everything handed to them on a plate. I'll give it to the Korean's though, they've carried your side's piss poor European players for a long time.

You lot had no issue with how GVW was when you won a couple of times claiming "we win when we want", only for your motivation to go to pot because you lost on dsoma to a side on 80% then again to a hsoma side who was on 85% and now you're back here crying on the forum begging for change because you're shite.

Start actually attending more than once every few months and you'll be taken more seriously. Until then, get good.


You're taking this very personally by the looks of it. Gary, is that you?

I honestly don't know who plays at 3/4AM, I start work at 6AM so playing Soma until the early hours is unfortunately not on the cards anymore. You're making a lot of assumptions and basing most of your post off of 1 time someone told you something.

Seems to me you're making a huge assumption in thinking i'm on any side. Making more assumptions and the rest of your post is just a rant at the opposite side. It's not helpful and if you removed your head from your arse for just a moment to look at the bigger picture, you would see that GVW has inherit flaw for todays low population server. One side should never have such a monopolisation of the player base.

Your last line is just hilarious. By "getting good" i assume you mean I spend weeks farming for upgraded items? Because that's the only "skill" involved within PVP on Soma right now.


"OGC"I'm sorry to say but I can't see any FFA come from the DL side of the alliances.

Would be great to have a 3rd guild in the running but it will never happen. People who play this game either join one side or the other. Any who don't simply aren't interested in PVP.

Daenaerys' departure from DL/Faint would have been an ideal situation to have a 3rd group of people competing but unfortunately he ironically sided with those who hated him most rather than taking the reins of his own team.

There just isn't a high enough UC to have a new third guild in the running. The only way this could be possible is if a full old group of players were to return and not be persuaded to join either of the current alliances.


You've just described the problem perfectly, from a DL alliance perspective. DL will not split up to allow smaller guilds to fight for GV because you don#t want the opposition to have it.

Your statement is incorrect, there wouldn't need to be a large group of players to return. There is plenty of UC to have a 3rd guild in the running, all it would take is for DL alliance to split up into 2/3 and the Koreans alliance to split up into 2. That would create a much more entertaining war for the whole server, but none of you are willing to do so.


"H4WKEYE"1. Lets not quote % when your tanks just guild hop

2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up, its hard incentivising players to come back for a gvw for an hour to get stomped by twice the numbers ( and 95% of people HATE the name change!!!l

3. why not stop the guild hopping with a month long cooldown on guild joinings and increase the rewards to the point where people wont want to just help their mates get it and actually want it for themselves


1. Increase the duration required to leave/join a guild to 2-4 weeks if you are above level 100. That would stop all this bickering about people jumping guilds. If someone has another capped character in another guild to transfer gear, fair enough to them. There is no way to stop that.
2. Instead of he said, she said. Lets look at the cold hard numbers of how many capped (Or almost capped) characters each guild has.
Koreanz has 11
UFG has 25
DL has 26
Faint has 23
Outlawz has 9

DL alliance = 58
Koreans/UFG = 36

22 characters less. UFG are almost guaranteed to be outnumbered every single week. You could even have Outlawz take all of their characters over to UFG alliance and the DL alliance would still have more members. So many more infact that the DL alliance have 60% (If my maths is correct) more capped characters who can attend than the UFG alliance. Why would Korea stay up until 3-4AM to turn up to a war with these numbers? Think about it without getting emotionally involved of "oh its their own fault".

3. Look at 1.

TL;DR. GVW will never get any better unless DL decide to split their alliance up somewhat.
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[quote="TALLER"][quote="OGC"] Since when has Korea ever had an issue with being online at 3-4AM local time? They live and breathe Soma and always manage to attend bosses around this time if GVW isn't on, I don't think being online at this time is anything out of the ordinary? All other excuses are piss poor. I was told once by someone on your side, you don't turn and because... I quote "we have to many str mages". Now you're telling me people don't turn up because we have too many people. Here's some news for you, if people don't turn up, we're going to have too many... lol Seems to me you chose the wrong side, shitters who want everything handed to them on a plate. I'll give it to the Korean's though, they've carried your side's piss poor European players for a long time. You lot had no issue with how GVW was when you won a couple of times claiming "we win when we want", only for your motivation to go to pot because you lost on dsoma to a side on 80% then again to a hsoma side who was on 85% and now you're back here crying on the forum begging for change because you're shite. Start actually attending more than once every few months and you'll be taken more seriously. Until then, get good.[/quote] You're taking this very personally by the looks of it. Gary, is that you? I honestly don't know who plays at 3/4AM, I start work at 6AM so playing Soma until the early hours is unfortunately not on the cards anymore. You're making a lot of assumptions and basing most of your post off of 1 time someone told you something. Seems to me you're making a huge assumption in thinking i'm on any side. Making more assumptions and the rest of your post is just a rant at the opposite side. It's not helpful and if you removed your head from your arse for just a moment to look at the bigger picture, you would see that GVW has inherit flaw for todays low population server. One side should never have such a monopolisation of the player base. Your last line is just hilarious. By "getting good" i assume you mean I spend weeks farming for upgraded items? Because that's the only "skill" involved within PVP on Soma right now. [quote="OGC"]I'm sorry to say but I can't see any FFA come from the DL side of the alliances. Would be great to have a 3rd guild in the running but it will never happen. People who play this game either join one side or the other. Any who don't simply aren't interested in PVP. Daenaerys' departure from DL/Faint would have been an ideal situation to have a 3rd group of people competing but unfortunately he ironically sided with those who hated him most rather than taking the reins of his own team. There just isn't a high enough UC to have a new third guild in the running. The only way this could be possible is if a full old group of players were to return and not be persuaded to join either of the current alliances.[/quote] You've just described the problem perfectly, from a DL alliance perspective. DL will not split up to allow smaller guilds to fight for GV because you don#t want the opposition to have it. Your statement is incorrect, there wouldn't need to be a large group of players to return. There is plenty of UC to have a 3rd guild in the running, all it would take is for DL alliance to split up into 2/3 and the Koreans alliance to split up into 2. That would create a much more entertaining war for the whole server, but none of you are willing to do so. [quote="H4WKEYE"]1. Lets not quote % when your tanks just guild hop 2. If we actually brought active players we would have about 3 out of ufg turn up, its hard incentivising players to come back for a gvw for an hour to get stomped by twice the numbers ( and 95% of people HATE the name change!!!l 3. why not stop the guild hopping with a month long cooldown on guild joinings and increase the rewards to the point where people wont want to just help their mates get it and actually want it for themselves[/quote] 1. Increase the duration required to leave/join a guild to 2-4 weeks if you are above level 100. That would stop all this bickering about people jumping guilds. If someone has another capped character in another guild to transfer gear, fair enough to them. There is no way to stop that. 2. Instead of he said, she said. Lets look at the cold hard numbers of how many capped (Or almost capped) characters each guild has. Koreanz has 11 UFG has 25 DL has 26 Faint has 23 Outlawz has 9 DL alliance = 58 Koreans/UFG = 36 22 characters less. UFG are almost guaranteed to be outnumbered every single week. You could even have Outlawz take all of their characters over to UFG alliance and the DL alliance would still have more members. So many more infact that the DL alliance have 60% (If my maths is correct) more capped characters who can attend than the UFG alliance. Why would Korea stay up until 3-4AM to turn up to a war with these numbers? Think about it without getting emotionally involved of "oh its their own fault". 3. Look at 1. TL;DR. GVW will never get any better unless DL decide to split their alliance up somewhat. [/quote]
I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you.

Koreanz has 11
UFG has 25
DL has 26
Faint has 23
Outlawz has 9

DL alliance = 58
Koreans/UFG = 36

These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable.

Back on subject.
More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending.

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[quote="OGC"]I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you. Koreanz has 11 UFG has 25 DL has 26 Faint has 23 Outlawz has 9 DL alliance = 58 Koreans/UFG = 36 These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable. Back on subject. More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending. [/quote]
"OGC"I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you.






Post on your main please thanks, anyone who plays the game is entitled to an opinion and at the nd of the day maybe hes posting because he wants to attend but the new changed deterred him.
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[quote="4634"][quote="OGC"]I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you. [/quote] Post on your main please thanks, anyone who plays the game is entitled to an opinion and at the nd of the day maybe hes posting because he wants to attend but the new changed deterred him. [/quote]
"4634"Post on your main please thanks.


How about no?
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[quote="OGC"][quote="4634"]Post on your main please thanks.[/quote] How about no?[/quote]
"OGC"
"4634"Post on your main please thanks.


How about no?


Then stop telling people their opinion is irrelevant when you cant even post on your main.

At the end of the day the forum is for discussions......everyone is entitled to an opinion. It is up to the gms to draw a consensus or decide what is in the best interest of the server. You are just another player.
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[quote="4634"][quote="OGC"][quote="4634"]Post on your main please thanks.[/quote] How about no?[/quote] Then stop telling people their opinion is irrelevant when you cant even post on your main. At the end of the day the forum is for discussions......everyone is entitled to an opinion. It is up to the gms to draw a consensus or decide what is in the best interest of the server. You are just another player. [/quote]
"OGC"I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you.

Koreanz has 11
UFG has 25
DL has 26
Faint has 23
Outlawz has 9

DL alliance = 58
Koreans/UFG = 36

These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable.

Back on subject.
More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending.



I don't attend GVW because what's the point? It's a stomp. No contest. Why waste the hour? I have as much of a right to an opinion as you do. I didn't realise you were the Soma police, saying who can and can't comment on something?

Oh, really? They are far from the truth? Lets have a look further then, shall we.
Koreanz. Aactive. - 12
STARWARS
KGBPLAYER
DOKKEBI
KANG
DISINTEGRATE
EHWA
AILIN
WONBIN
YEOEY
DAENAERYS
SHAKIRA
SWIM

UFG. Active - 25
GENTRY
ZOLDIER
CHEREBGADOL
KYUSS
YOKOHAMA
NYRAX
OPENTHEDOOR
PAPARAS
RAINEY
SHIVY
TEMEROSO
VYPER
YAGUDO
CHEWIE
AENUS
ALAKAZAM
AOUMIE
BONA
LEON1DAS
NITE
H4WKEYE
HERAZ
KNUT

DL. Active - 23
PAPAPILAS
DEATHNOTE
SB99
SERB
DARE
DEVILMAKER
QXJIANG
CND
HAWKMOON
JOJI
KAIDE
LOEFAH
MEW
NEVERGIVEUP
NIXHER
SHAILO
SYONIDE
WHANGONEIN
ZUZU
ROKEN
PIM
PIXEL

Faint active - 25
FN
GASTONE
INCITE
J0K3R
MEDELIM
MORTY
QUASIMODO
JPOT
CYROX
EDICIUS
ACTAEON
ADEPT
ASPRINE
GWAPO
HADOU
IATOBUS
LUTHER
PAPA
RAGNA
ROMULUS
SESIMBRA
TAKESHI
TIBI
FREQUENCY
GANDALF

Outlawz active - 5
DALISAY
DR_EVIL
CRAWLIN
BINKS
MIKELOWREY

Koreanz. Not capped/PVP active - 14
BIGBANG
BLOCK1003
DARKCIRLE
DOEUN
GOM__GO
HAYOOL
IRENE
MINO_
NAGARE
SEO
SHACO
SOOL
TEST86
THUNDERMAN

UFG. Not capped/pvp active - 3
IXION
ASTRA_JANOA
DETHRONE

DL not active - 4
RAMZO
CHUNK
BIGMAD
800X600

Faint not active - 4
NISCY
PURIEL
ZHUANG
RICHIE777

Outlawz not active - 14
VANISH
EVOLVE
HAKZ
KIWI
SPELUNK
CHRONOS
SCRAPPY
SASAKE
RAMYREZ
PERISH
ZEZAL
NEXTGEN
ISOLATE
BATTIE


My numbers were slightly off, my apologies.
Korea - 12
UFG - 25
DL - 23
Faint - 25
Outlawz - 5

Korea/UFG = 37
DL = 53

"OGC"People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending.


This is probably the most idiotic statement this account has produced, your clear aggravation at 4634 with what he is saying and your writing style really screams of Tibi. If it's not, i'm sorry you share a lot of traits with him.

How can you expect UFG/Korea to turn up week in week out (3-4AM for Koreans) when you clearly have the massive numbers advantage and DL alliance have won 19/20th's of the last year of GVW's? Why would they attend when the only reward, is trace? Think about it logically, it makes no sense for them to turn up to get banged 1:2.
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[quote="TALLER"][quote="OGC"]I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you. Koreanz has 11 UFG has 25 DL has 26 Faint has 23 Outlawz has 9 DL alliance = 58 Koreans/UFG = 36 These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable. Back on subject. More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending. [/quote] I don't attend GVW because what's the point? It's a stomp. No contest. Why waste the hour? I have as much of a right to an opinion as you do. I didn't realise you were the Soma police, saying who can and can't comment on something? Oh, really? They are far from the truth? Lets have a look further then, shall we. Koreanz. Aactive. - 12 STARWARS KGBPLAYER DOKKEBI KANG DISINTEGRATE EHWA AILIN WONBIN YEOEY DAENAERYS SHAKIRA SWIM UFG. Active - 25 GENTRY ZOLDIER CHEREBGADOL KYUSS YOKOHAMA NYRAX OPENTHEDOOR PAPARAS RAINEY SHIVY TEMEROSO VYPER YAGUDO CHEWIE AENUS ALAKAZAM AOUMIE BONA LEON1DAS NITE H4WKEYE HERAZ KNUT DL. Active - 23 PAPAPILAS DEATHNOTE SB99 SERB DARE DEVILMAKER QXJIANG CND HAWKMOON JOJI KAIDE LOEFAH MEW NEVERGIVEUP NIXHER SHAILO SYONIDE WHANGONEIN ZUZU ROKEN PIM PIXEL Faint active - 25 FN GASTONE INCITE J0K3R MEDELIM MORTY QUASIMODO JPOT CYROX EDICIUS ACTAEON ADEPT ASPRINE GWAPO HADOU IATOBUS LUTHER PAPA RAGNA ROMULUS SESIMBRA TAKESHI TIBI FREQUENCY GANDALF Outlawz active - 5 DALISAY DR_EVIL CRAWLIN BINKS MIKELOWREY Koreanz. Not capped/PVP active - 14 BIGBANG BLOCK1003 DARKCIRLE DOEUN GOM__GO HAYOOL IRENE MINO_ NAGARE SEO SHACO SOOL TEST86 THUNDERMAN UFG. Not capped/pvp active - 3 IXION ASTRA_JANOA DETHRONE DL not active - 4 RAMZO CHUNK BIGMAD 800X600 Faint not active - 4 NISCY PURIEL ZHUANG RICHIE777 Outlawz not active - 14 VANISH EVOLVE HAKZ KIWI SPELUNK CHRONOS SCRAPPY SASAKE RAMYREZ PERISH ZEZAL NEXTGEN ISOLATE BATTIE My numbers were slightly off, my apologies. Korea - 12 UFG - 25 DL - 23 Faint - 25 Outlawz - 5 Korea/UFG = 37 DL = 53 [QUOTE="OGC"]People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending. [/quote] This is probably the most idiotic statement this account has produced, your clear aggravation at 4634 with what he is saying and your writing style really screams of Tibi. If it's not, i'm sorry you share a lot of traits with him. How can you expect UFG/Korea to turn up week in week out (3-4AM for Koreans) when you [b]clearly[/b] have the massive numbers advantage and DL alliance have won 19/20th's of the last year of GVW's? Why would they attend when the only reward, is trace? Think about it logically, it makes no sense for them to turn up to get banged 1:2. [/quote]
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"OGC"I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you.

Koreanz has 11
UFG has 25
DL has 26
Faint has 23
Outlawz has 9

DL alliance = 58
Koreans/UFG = 36

These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable.

Back on subject.
More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending.



I don't attend GVW because what's the point? It's a stomp. No contest. Why waste the hour? I have as much of a right to an opinion as you do. I didn't realise you were the Soma police, saying who can and can't comment on something?

Oh, really? They are far from the truth? Lets have a look further then, shall we.
Koreanz. Aactive. - 12
STARWARS
KGBPLAYER
DOKKEBI
KANG
DISINTEGRATE
EHWA
AILIN
WONBIN
YEOEY
DAENAERYS
SHAKIRA
SWIM

UFG. Active - 25
GENTRY
ZOLDIER
CHEREBGADOL
KYUSS
YOKOHAMA
NYRAX
OPENTHEDOOR
PAPARAS
RAINEY
SHIVY
TEMEROSO
VYPER
YAGUDO
CHEWIE
AENUS
ALAKAZAM
AOUMIE
BONA
LEON1DAS
NITE
H4WKEYE
HERAZ
KNUT

DL. Active - 23
PAPAPILAS
DEATHNOTE
SB99
SERB
DARE
DEVILMAKER
QXJIANG
CND
HAWKMOON
JOJI
KAIDE
LOEFAH
MEW
NEVERGIVEUP
NIXHER
SHAILO
SYONIDE
WHANGONEIN
ZUZU
ROKEN
PIM
PIXEL

Faint active - 25
FN
GASTONE
INCITE
J0K3R
MEDELIM
MORTY
QUASIMODO
JPOT
CYROX
EDICIUS
ACTAEON
ADEPT
ASPRINE
GWAPO
HADOU
IATOBUS
LUTHER
PAPA
RAGNA
ROMULUS
SESIMBRA
TAKESHI
TIBI
FREQUENCY
GANDALF

Outlawz active - 5
DALISAY
DR_EVIL
CRAWLIN
BINKS
MIKELOWREY

Koreanz. Not capped/PVP active - 14
BIGBANG
BLOCK1003
DARKCIRLE
DOEUN
GOM__GO
HAYOOL
IRENE
MINO_
NAGARE
SEO
SHACO
SOOL
TEST86
THUNDERMAN

UFG. Not capped/pvp active - 3
IXION
ASTRA_JANOA
DETHRONE

DL not active - 4
RAMZO
CHUNK
BIGMAD
800X600

Faint not active - 4
NISCY
PURIEL
ZHUANG
RICHIE777

Outlawz not active - 14
VANISH
EVOLVE
HAKZ
KIWI
SPELUNK
CHRONOS
SCRAPPY
SASAKE
RAMYREZ
PERISH
ZEZAL
NEXTGEN
ISOLATE
BATTIE


My numbers were slightly off, my apologies.
Korea - 12
UFG - 25
DL - 23
Faint - 25
Outlawz - 5

Korea/UFG = 37
DL = 53
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[quote="KNUCKLES"][quote="TALLER"][quote="OGC"]I'm making assumptions on what is said/done by others. Yourself for example, indicating you're not part of either alliance which would further suggest you don't actually attend gvw. If that's the case, you seem overly opinionated on a matter which quite frankly doesn't concern you. Koreanz has 11 UFG has 25 DL has 26 Faint has 23 Outlawz has 9 DL alliance = 58 Koreans/UFG = 36 These numbers aren't even close to being correct. Again shows how out of touch with this game you really are. Really makes the validity of what you say questionable. Back on subject. More incentive would be ideal for helping improve gvw attendance, but ultimately its in the players' hands. No guild hopping change is going to fix anything. People just need to pull their heads from their asses and start attending. [/quote] I don't attend GVW because what's the point? It's a stomp. No contest. Why waste the hour? I have as much of a right to an opinion as you do. I didn't realise you were the Soma police, saying who can and can't comment on something? Oh, really? They are far from the truth? Lets have a look further then, shall we. Koreanz. Aactive. - 12 STARWARS KGBPLAYER DOKKEBI KANG DISINTEGRATE EHWA AILIN WONBIN YEOEY DAENAERYS SHAKIRA SWIM UFG. Active - 25 GENTRY ZOLDIER CHEREBGADOL KYUSS YOKOHAMA NYRAX OPENTHEDOOR PAPARAS RAINEY SHIVY TEMEROSO VYPER YAGUDO CHEWIE AENUS ALAKAZAM AOUMIE BONA LEON1DAS NITE H4WKEYE HERAZ KNUT DL. Active - 23 PAPAPILAS DEATHNOTE SB99 SERB DARE DEVILMAKER QXJIANG CND HAWKMOON JOJI KAIDE LOEFAH MEW NEVERGIVEUP NIXHER SHAILO SYONIDE WHANGONEIN ZUZU ROKEN PIM PIXEL Faint active - 25 FN GASTONE INCITE J0K3R MEDELIM MORTY QUASIMODO JPOT CYROX EDICIUS ACTAEON ADEPT ASPRINE GWAPO HADOU IATOBUS LUTHER PAPA RAGNA ROMULUS SESIMBRA TAKESHI TIBI FREQUENCY GANDALF Outlawz active - 5 DALISAY DR_EVIL CRAWLIN BINKS MIKELOWREY Koreanz. Not capped/PVP active - 14 BIGBANG BLOCK1003 DARKCIRLE DOEUN GOM__GO HAYOOL IRENE MINO_ NAGARE SEO SHACO SOOL TEST86 THUNDERMAN UFG. Not capped/pvp active - 3 IXION ASTRA_JANOA DETHRONE DL not active - 4 RAMZO CHUNK BIGMAD 800X600 Faint not active - 4 NISCY PURIEL ZHUANG RICHIE777 Outlawz not active - 14 VANISH EVOLVE HAKZ KIWI SPELUNK CHRONOS SCRAPPY SASAKE RAMYREZ PERISH ZEZAL NEXTGEN ISOLATE BATTIE My numbers were slightly off, my apologies. Korea - 12 UFG - 25 DL - 23 Faint - 25 Outlawz - 5 Korea/UFG = 37 DL = 53 . [/quote] Stats[/quote]
Uprising in these stats?
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[quote="GRIMPIRATE"]Uprising in these stats?[/quote]

 

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