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My memory of esoma when i played was that proper pkers were quite rare, think its since then with p servers where the games become way more pvp orientated

imo just slow moral waaaay down, make Angel immune and everyone else is free game and be done with it

Any changes to moral, you need to also take into consideration is some spells require certain moral devil, wicked etc so any changes would punish some players simply getting or wanting spells.

Even lucifer was an Angel. Lets go back to old soma where you can lose stats. I would almost guarantee pk would change then. People won't risk being pked back to lvl 1. /2cents

I see some of you have never taken the 2 pk hit and bang on the minute immunity stops, starts again - it really takes away that buzz feeling you get that you can play in the evening for a couple of hours, why log in to be treated like shit and told get over it?

I think the A / D moral thing is a good idea, though it's still an uphill struggle it seems a good choice.

PK is still a thing, look at the feed!

If dying on a 2D game makes you feel like shit, you really need to re-evaluate your life IMO.

If repeatedly killing folk on a 2D game who don’t fight back buffs your ego, you really need to re-evaluate your life IMO.

"PROWLER"If repeatedly killing folk on a 2D game who don’t fight back buffs your ego, you really need to re-evaluate your life IMO.

Was that aimed towards me? Think I've given immunity to about 3 people ever, a total of 3 times lulw.

I agree though.

It wasn't aimed at you ... it was a counter-point to the position that you outlined (which I know is propelled by many PKers).

Much like "politics", there is no definitive right & wrong - just different opinions and values.

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Jac/Prowler

This seems to be going well. Some opposition, but that’s inevitable. It would be excellent if GMs joined in if only to ask questions.
I’m guessing that merely introducing immortality for Angels is unlikely to involve any mega-difficult programming. I am also thinking that changing other matters such as Cap level, will probably be more so.
And I do have something to say about the matter of the Cap concerning Angels. There are various implications to it, for instance:
1) If the cap were extended to +100, and the current ranks stretched accordingly. This could result in having to Cap out again, possibly robbing existing Angels of their status and immortality. This would be rather cruel, considering all we have endured thus far.
2) Or, we could introduce another rank —ARCHANGEL — Which would also be immortal, but also have the automatic ability to kill the opponent, and possibly initiate a death drop. Assuming of course, that the Pker threw the first blow.

I don’t know enough about the sub moral species, so I can’t comment on the effects on them.

So, for the present, let’s keep it simple. IMMORTALITY FOR ANGELS, and let’s see what happens.

Anything that qualifies for long term immunity should have pk mode permanently removed

"H4WKEYE"Anything that qualifies for long term immunity should have pk mode permanently removed

that's nonsense .. or might as well be given the option at character creation of pk or non pk player...
What's suggested allows players to drift between the 2 and join or retire from pk when they either feel the urge or have the gear to participate.... giving options of fluidity between the 2..
It's not that easy to get to angel moral atm..so it's not something that can be achieved willy nilly at will in a day's play

When you are capped and hunt the right mobs moral absolutely flies

What is the suggestion for all the tank/support chars that are major contributors to pvp but dont go for kills, thye get to stand in middle of everyone untouchable and alloqed to pick and choose when to pk?

Choosing a non pk mode char from the off would 100% remove the issue for genuine pve folk

"H4WKEYE"When you are capped and hunt the right mobs moral absolutely flies

What is the suggestion for all the tank/support chars that are major contributors to pvp but dont go for kills, thye get to stand in middle of everyone untouchable and alloqed to pick and choose when to pk?

Choosing a non pk mode char from the off would 100% remove the issue for genuine pve folk

+1, people make these suggestions with zero thought for the consequences and act like they've just fixed Soma lol - quite the opposite.

More and more snowflake changes like these will see all PVPer's go play a game where finding PVP isn't nigh on impossible and heavily punished.

ye..and with a couple of immunity pots ..they..them pesky 'snowflakes' or any player ...can do that already ?

The 50% + proly of the server that u call snowflakes .. are generally players not interested in pk and don't wana 'take the 2' to boost some shitters egos

unfortunately .. the snowflake reference is used as a derogatory term by mostly.. unpleasant players

sad, but true

What a load of old nonsense Lupi, you're not worth engaging with.

I'll let you converse with yourself as per usual.