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makes more sense than asking for guaranteed +8 ?
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#31 2021/04/13 09:55:17 |
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Not really a guaranteed +8 though is it? could be a +8 that is actually a +4? a +4 that would be better off ingame, high levels wont want it so they give it to people leveling or whatever.
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#32 2021/04/13 09:57:51 |
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"RAVENSOUL"The anvil is fine, it’s all about numbers ie the more loot you get the more chance at success. wouldnt be a ghost +1
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[quote="4634"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]The anvil is fine, it’s all about numbers ie the more loot you get the more chance at success.
Ghost idea complete shite idea, would rather anvil went back to no guarantee than warehouse full of shite fake upgraded items.
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#33 2021/04/13 11:38:38 |
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"TYRESE""4634""LUPISCUS"personally think a +3 guaranteed for weps at the anvil would be good.. at least a +3 is serviceable and useable.. might see a few players return. You would still need good roles. you still need to farm a considerable amount of time for small diamonds and you will need be competing with people who have 290 recoil weapons. Maybe they could leave anvil as it is for new weapons as you dont want people getting them too fast. but maybe they could do something for up to nega tier weapons - that way it will allow potential new players to actually achieve something for reasonable time play and stop the new weapons from being upgraded to o fast so we all got something to farm but can achieve gear to compete same time.
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[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"][quote="4634"][quote="LUPISCUS"]personally think a +3 guaranteed for weps at the anvil would be good.. at least a +3 is serviceable and useable.. might see a few players return.[/quote]
Though i disagree with you on slower rates, i think more levels would be better. i think theres lots of useful information on this post in general for the gms to use. Rather than having a +3 guaranteed imo, it would be better to lose any upgrades after +2
So if you got a 800 recoil horned bow +2
and it fails going +3 you get your horned bow back at +2 and 800 recoil but you lose the item put on the bow
This way it wont be such a loss so some of your time invested is returned and it will boost the economy a little
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Terrible idea. All you’d do is stack SS’s and make intense +8 weaps and armors etc with ease.
If you want things not to break it’ll need to be the ghost idea which has done the rounds. If it fails you get the extra +1 and the item returns as it was when it went in. That way you could still make a good viable +5 even if it won’t go any higher as it’s actually +8.
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You would still need good roles. you still need to farm a considerable amount of time for small diamonds and you will need be competing with people who have 290 recoil weapons. Maybe they could leave anvil as it is for new weapons as you dont want people getting them too fast. but maybe they could do something for up to nega tier weapons - that way it will allow potential new players to actually achieve something for reasonable time play and stop the new weapons from being upgraded to o fast so we all got something to farm but can achieve gear to compete same time. [/quote]
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#34 2021/04/13 11:41:55 |
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I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8.
My spear is 450rec at +8, the average player could make an intense +8 with 525 rec and still give off more dps than my spear does and that’s with bad roles. So -1 for me.
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[quote="TYRESE"]I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8.
My spear is 450rec at +8, the average player could make an intense +8 with 525 rec and still give off more dps than my spear does and that’s with bad roles. So -1 for me.[/quote]
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#35 2021/04/13 12:08:40 |
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If you believe making fake false +5, +6, +7, +8 items that would in fact be nothing more than a real +1, +2, +3 would be better then please ask iSylver to implement the ghost upgrade system.......
I would be lying if I wouldn’t be looking forward to watching, hearing your world shouts begging players to take that intense horned bow +6 - +8 off your hands that is no better than a +1 - +3 still over 1000 recoil and then the realisation that only the npc will take it off your hands. If you think false fake upgraded items would be better than true real upgraded items then go for it ask, beg iSylver to implement the shite ghost system.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]If you believe making fake false +5, +6, +7, +8 items that would in fact be nothing more than a real +1, +2, +3 would be better then please ask iSylver to implement the ghost upgrade system.......
I would be lying if I wouldn’t be looking forward to watching, hearing your world shouts begging players to take that intense horned bow +6 - +8 off your hands that is no better than a +1 - +3 still over 1000 recoil and then the realisation that only the npc will take it off your hands.
If you think false fake upgraded items would be better than true real upgraded items then go for it ask, beg iSylver to implement the shite ghost system.[/quote]
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#36 2021/04/13 12:32:38 |
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Raven what I said was it would give normal people with an actual life of some sort a shot at competing and maybe a reason to continue playing.
No a ghost +8 with 3 fails probably wouldn’t be better than a true +8 (not out of the question, but unlikely) however that ‘shite’ +8 to a noob would probably be an OP upgrade, which potentially helps stimulate the economy as well rather than just disappearing to nothing. Valid point about everyone running around with +8’s etc but most of them probably wouldn’t be a true +8 and currently they’re out there anyway, maybe best for balance if everyone has a reasonable shot of obtaining such a thing. Problems foreseen to cause issues from this could be addressed in the upcoming patch, with new armour/making SS only work from +5 onwards on new weapon’s maybe, nipping most issues in the bud.
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[quote="MIKELOWREY"]Raven what I said was it would give normal people with an actual life of some sort a shot at competing and maybe a reason to continue playing.
No a ghost +8 with 3 fails probably wouldn’t be better than a true +8 (not out of the question, but unlikely) however that ‘shite’ +8 to a noob would probably be an OP upgrade, which potentially helps stimulate the economy as well rather than just disappearing to nothing.
Valid point about everyone running around with +8’s etc but most of them probably wouldn’t be a true +8 and currently they’re out there anyway, maybe best for balance if everyone has a reasonable shot of obtaining such a thing.
Problems foreseen to cause issues from this could be addressed in the upcoming patch, with new armour/making SS only work from +5 onwards on new weapon’s maybe, nipping most issues in the bud.[/quote]
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#37 2021/04/13 13:13:11 |
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TYRESE |
Oh I mean +8’s in terms of Jamie’s suggestion which the item doesn’t break and doesn’t + it. That way the item would be a true +8 opposed to the ghost 8.
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#38 2021/04/13 13:29:16 |
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MIKELOWREY |
Got ya, yea that would be a bad thing to implement for sure.
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#39 2021/04/13 13:45:32 |
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"TYRESE"I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8. Well 6k hours into the game and still no +8 let alone nega weapon! I too agree with you about everyone running around with +8s thats why i said only up to nega tier, so it would be like a fresh economy. At the moment theres no movmeent in gvw, pk is more kiss and chase now than ever. Players are being put off by this and the fact of the time invested for the rewards not being enough. I dont see alot of ideas being posted just alot of ideas being dismissed DL side, with a decreasing number of ingame activity.
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[quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8.
My spear is 450rec at +8, the average player could make an intense +8 with 525 rec and still give off more dps than my spear does and that’s with bad roles. So -1 for me.[/quote]
Well 6k hours into the game and still no +8 let alone nega weapon!
I too agree with you about everyone running around with +8s thats why i said only up to nega tier, so it would be like a fresh economy. At the moment theres no movmeent in gvw, pk is more kiss and chase now than ever. Players are being put off by this and the fact of the time invested for the rewards not being enough.
I dont see alot of ideas being posted just alot of ideas being dismissed DL side, with a decreasing number of ingame activity.
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#40 2021/04/13 14:49:37 |
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LUTHER |
a flat out ghost upgrade system would be fun for a bit but in the end just kill off the risk / buzz from using the anvil
They could make a ghost upgrade token though thats like 50 million apc so you'd have to work hard for it |
#41 2021/04/13 15:06:20 |
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If ghost upgrade came in the same post would be made in 2-3 months times.
Have a fail=reverse system so if I have a +4 going +5 and it fails it re rolls and goes +3. Should be ez to implement Your welcome Think I would be more livid with. +8 int wep that took 20 rares to combine being 1000 rec than it breaking +3. Just my opinion though.
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[quote="WEP111"]If ghost upgrade came in the same post would be made in 2-3 months times.
Have a fail=reverse system so if I have a +4 going +5 and it fails it re rolls and goes +3. Should be ez to implement
Your welcome
Think I would be more livid with. +8 int wep that took 20 rares to combine being 1000 rec than it breaking +3. Just my opinion though. [/quote]
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#42 2021/04/13 15:11:15 |
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"4634""TYRESE"I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8. If you spent less time harassing lower level players on your multiple chars and more time farming / bosses you’d actually have decent gear. You’ve got some good mage items which are +8 so I don’t see your logic there. I’m sure you’ve also had a +8 nega sword in the past too. I’ve invested an awful lot more than 6k hours across several chars and when I’m online I’m farming, levelling or going to bosses. Hence why I have items. Also there are several DL chars in this thread who’ve posted ideas which would better suit the games progression.
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[quote="TYRESE"][quote="4634"][quote="TYRESE"]I still disagree with this. You’d still have a +8 weap without fear of failing and even if you did have a few bad roles everyone would be running round with intense weaps +8.
My spear is 450rec at +8, the average player could make an intense +8 with 525 rec and still give off more dps than my spear does and that’s with bad roles. So -1 for me.[/quote]
Well 6k hours into the game and still no +8 let alone nega weapon!
I too agree with you about everyone running around with +8s thats why i said only up to nega tier, so it would be like a fresh economy. At the moment theres no movmeent in gvw, pk is more kiss and chase now than ever. Players are being put off by this and the fact of the time invested for the rewards not being enough.
I dont see alot of ideas being posted just alot of ideas being dismissed DL side, with a decreasing number of ingame activity.
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If you spent less time harassing lower level players on your multiple chars and more time farming / bosses you’d actually have decent gear. You’ve got some good mage items which are +8 so I don’t see your logic there. I’m sure you’ve also had a +8 nega sword in the past too.
I’ve invested an awful lot more than 6k hours across several chars and when I’m online I’m farming, levelling or going to bosses. Hence why I have items.
Also there are several DL chars in this thread who’ve posted ideas which would better suit the games progression.
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#43 2021/04/13 15:12:23 |
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WEP111 |
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