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So with the 150hp pots added to shop it has been suggested to change the 150hp craftable pot to 200hp (as the mats req seem to be abit to many and the weight on them abit to high)

Increasing the 150hp pots to 200hp will make the weight to hp pot more sought after

Also belive it req 13 mats in total to make, possible to decrease this will help get ppl crafting and selling

Thoughts ? Other suggestions?
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[quote="KAZOKU"]So with the 150hp pots added to shop it has been suggested to change the 150hp craftable pot to 200hp (as the mats req seem to be abit to many and the weight on them abit to high) Increasing the 150hp pots to 200hp will make the weight to hp pot more sought after Also belive it req 13 mats in total to make, possible to decrease this will help get ppl crafting and selling Thoughts ? Other suggestions? [/quote]
So to craft these potion to give 150 hp requires 13 mats and weighs 5

Alternatives....

Bread uses 3 flour and 1 blue flavour total of 4 mats and gives 50 hp and there weight 1 - I can Cary 5 bread for same weight as the new hp pots and get 250 hp from them, an extra 100 hp for same weight.

The craftable 40 hp pots requires you to first make rice cakes which uses 1 rice and 2 flour then you craft the rice cake with 1 sesame seed, total mats required 5 and these 40 hp pots are weight 1 so you can carry 5 of them as opposed to 1 of the 150 hp pots and have 200 hp from these that’s an extra 50 hp.

This is why these craftable 150 hp pots are just not practical for producing them.
If the 150 hp pots used less mats like 5 or 6 mats max instead of 13 and we’re weight 4 then they might be more worthwhile.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]So to craft these potion to give 150 hp requires 13 mats and weighs 5 Alternatives.... Bread uses 3 flour and 1 blue flavour total of 4 mats and gives 50 hp and there weight 1 - I can Cary 5 bread for same weight as the new hp pots and get 250 hp from them, an extra 100 hp for same weight. The craftable 40 hp pots requires you to first make rice cakes which uses 1 rice and 2 flour then you craft the rice cake with 1 sesame seed, total mats required 5 and these 40 hp pots are weight 1 so you can carry 5 of them as opposed to 1 of the 150 hp pots and have 200 hp from these that’s an extra 50 hp. This is why these craftable 150 hp pots are just not practical for producing them. If the 150 hp pots used less mats like 5 or 6 mats max instead of 13 and we’re weight 4 then they might be more worthwhile.[/quote]
i suggest the 200hp/mp versions remain w4/5 to bring inline with the rice cake cooked counterparts

and bring in a 150mp version too
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[quote="EDICIUS"]i suggest the 200hp/mp versions remain w4/5 to bring inline with the rice cake cooked counterparts and bring in a 150mp version too[/quote]
wud think getting 150 hp pots in the shop .. without crafting them is a generous addition..

asking for 200 pots, crafted or not, so soon might come across as a little ott
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[quote="AMOEBA"]wud think getting 150 hp pots in the shop .. without crafting them is a generous addition.. asking for 200 pots, crafted or not, so soon might come across as a little ott[/quote]
then whats the use of the recipe thats already ingame? simply asking for it to be attached to a new pot to make pot crafters relevant
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[quote="EDICIUS"]then whats the use of the recipe thats already ingame? simply asking for it to be attached to a new pot to make pot crafters relevant[/quote]
could make the crafted ones 1 weight lower i guess .. or use the recipe for mp ones maybe

1 blue
3 sesame
5 oil
4 bones for the hp.. could be adjusted to ;

5 blue
3 sesame
1 oil ( make life easier and more realistic to craft )
4 bones
for the mp ones

You'd have to be a Ready Steady Cook fanatic to do either of those
x
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[quote="AMOEBA"]could make the crafted ones 1 weight lower i guess .. or use the recipe for mp ones maybe 1 blue 3 sesame 5 oil 4 bones for the hp.. could be adjusted to ; 5 blue 3 sesame 1 oil ( make life easier and more realistic to craft ) 4 bones for the mp ones You'd have to be a Ready Steady Cook fanatic to do either of those x[/quote]
If you broke down the price of the mats ie the cloudy bones, molten oils that players are asking for -5-6,000 barr per bone, around 1-2,000 per oil, then the time to extract for the sesame seeds your looking at around 10,000 Barr per attempt..... how much from shop under 600 Barr to buy I’ve heard.

Completely pointless for crafters to waste there time and energy even bothering.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]If you broke down the price of the mats ie the cloudy bones, molten oils that players are asking for -5-6,000 barr per bone, around 1-2,000 per oil, then the time to extract for the sesame seeds your looking at around 10,000 Barr per attempt..... how much from shop under 600 Barr to buy I’ve heard. Completely pointless for crafters to waste there time and energy even bothering.[/quote]
With the hoard map suggestions thread posted, I thought I’d bring this back for discussion since the mats ( cloudy bones, molten oils) and rest of the negamare tier of maps just simply don’t drop enough in quantity to make these.

The amount that drops needs looking at 1-3 just isn’t enough for crafters to spend there time farming all types of mats.

Amount of mats required and the weight of the 150? 200? need looking at.
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]With the hoard map suggestions thread posted, I thought I’d bring this back for discussion since the mats ( cloudy bones, molten oils) and rest of the negamare tier of maps just simply don’t drop enough in quantity to make these. The amount that drops needs looking at 1-3 just isn’t enough for crafters to spend there time farming all types of mats. Amount of mats required and the weight of the 150? 200? need looking at.[/quote]
Since this post the 150 hp pot recipy was swoped to the 200hp pots

And the 150 hp pot was added with reduced mats

Don't mind the amount of mats required, tho I do think they need to drop more, so would be a brill idea to add the mag mats (aswell as all the other mag drops) to horde mobs, this should boost the amount ingame

As for the Wight on the 200 hp pot I belive it's set at 7, which I thinks alittle high, fair enough 100 hp pots weight 4, 150 weight 5 and 200 at weight 7, tho I feel the amount you can carry being less that you burn though the pots alot faster and potentially waste pots with them being 200 hp, so I'd like to see them come down abit

Or at least the crafted ones, maybe they could tweak potion craft so you gain a bonus to what you make with the skill you have, hopfuly this would make potion crafting worth somthing
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[quote="KAZOKU"]Since this post the 150 hp pot recipy was swoped to the 200hp pots And the 150 hp pot was added with reduced mats Don't mind the amount of mats required, tho I do think they need to drop more, so would be a brill idea to add the mag mats (aswell as all the other mag drops) to horde mobs, this should boost the amount ingame As for the Wight on the 200 hp pot I belive it's set at 7, which I thinks alittle high, fair enough 100 hp pots weight 4, 150 weight 5 and 200 at weight 7, tho I feel the amount you can carry being less that you burn though the pots alot faster and potentially waste pots with them being 200 hp, so I'd like to see them come down abit Or at least the crafted ones, maybe they could tweak potion craft so you gain a bonus to what you make with the skill you have, hopfuly this would make potion crafting worth somthing[/quote]
The need for these pots to be looked at is greater than ever at the moment. The dmg output in pvp is huge, and with hoarde coming soon we will all need that extra help.

Oils don’t drop anywhere near enough to make it viable to craft. In a normal hunt I’m getting less than 25 oils even during 2x events.
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[quote="TYRESE"]The need for these pots to be looked at is greater than ever at the moment. The dmg output in pvp is huge, and with hoarde coming soon we will all need that extra help. Oils don’t drop anywhere near enough to make it viable to craft. In a normal hunt I’m getting less than 25 oils even during 2x events.[/quote]

 

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