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Proposed changes to Mage Proc & other PvP bits

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The game must not be changed by "a few guys on discord" everytime.

These guys will keep asking and moaning until they can finally win against their enemy.

When they had a lot of mages with triple proc last summer, they never complained and moan about mage.

Now with the New weaps, especially bow has crazy damage. An archer has dex and damage so I wonder which class can fight against the archer. If the mage is nerf, it will make another broken balance.

if really mage needs to be nerfed,

1st. Let mage have no interference when the the mage is attacked.

or

2nd. delete new weaps to make better balance.

or

3rd. Leave all, just make the other classes stronger than now.
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[quote="INDIO"]-1 The game must not be changed by "a few guys on discord" everytime. These guys will keep asking and moaning until they can finally win against their enemy. When they had a lot of mages with triple proc last summer, they never complained and moan about mage. Now with the New weaps, especially bow has crazy damage. An archer has dex and damage so I wonder which class can fight against the archer. If the mage is nerf, it will make another broken balance. if really mage needs to be nerfed, 1st. Let mage have no interference when the the mage is attacked. or 2nd. delete new weaps to make better balance. or 3rd. Leave all, just make the other classes stronger than now.[/quote]
"INDIO"-1

The game must not be changed by "a few guys on discord" everytime.

These guys will keep asking and moaning until they can finally win against their enemy.

When they had a lot of mages with triple proc last summer, they never complained and moan about mage.

Now with the New weaps, especially bow has crazy damage. An archer has dex and damage so I wonder which class can fight against the archer. If the mage is nerf, it will make another broken balance.

if really mage needs to be nerfed,

1st. Let mage have no interference when the the mage is attacked.

or

2nd. delete new weaps to make better balance.

or

3rd. Leave all, just make the other classes stronger than now.


people can be so self serving.
imagine not wanting people to have the ability to 1 bang or 2/3 hit another person. shock horror.

pk should be a group thing not 1 person running about destroying people in the least amount of hits
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[quote="EDICIUS"][quote="INDIO"]-1 The game must not be changed by "a few guys on discord" everytime. These guys will keep asking and moaning until they can finally win against their enemy. When they had a lot of mages with triple proc last summer, they never complained and moan about mage. Now with the New weaps, especially bow has crazy damage. An archer has dex and damage so I wonder which class can fight against the archer. If the mage is nerf, it will make another broken balance. if really mage needs to be nerfed, 1st. Let mage have no interference when the the mage is attacked. or 2nd. delete new weaps to make better balance. or 3rd. Leave all, just make the other classes stronger than now.[/quote] people can be so self serving. imagine not wanting people to have the ability to 1 bang or 2/3 hit another person. shock horror. pk should be a group thing not 1 person running about destroying people in the least amount of hits[/quote]
Just to reiterate there was plenty of moaning and discussions about triple proc… the stacking of db proc shouldn’t have happened, but people tried to bend it to their will and got upset when it rightly removed… I can go back and find them if we need to, but it has always been a point between ‘all sides’ that triple proc/1 bangs shouldn’t happen.

I put the point on here based on a number of people’s discussions for all sides.

Of the 3 points posed; don’t understand #1 can you elaborate? #2 it was happening before valour items so this won’t help. #3 could work for dsoma, not sure how to apply it for hsoma?!
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[quote="AXOM"]Just to reiterate there was plenty of moaning and discussions about triple proc… the stacking of db proc shouldn’t have happened, but people tried to bend it to their will and got upset when it rightly removed… I can go back and find them if we need to, but it has always been a point between ‘all sides’ that triple proc/1 bangs shouldn’t happen. I put the point on here based on a number of people’s discussions for all sides. Of the 3 points posed; don’t understand #1 can you elaborate? #2 it was happening before valour items so this won’t help. #3 could work for dsoma, not sure how to apply it for hsoma?! [/quote]
Just limit it to 1 proc honestly and remove the damage by range reduction or leave the damage reduction in but make mages cast through arrows.

EDIT: Dsoma wise i think mage v mage / mage v archer is fine. I think there is a bit of hysteria around mages (myself included) and that how OP the bows are is just being ignored because it suits people. Tank up the range 1 characters on dsoma, more hp, more base wisdom and maybe fix the weaken proc so that people can serum it. Otherwise I think mages are ok on Dsoma.
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[quote="SB99"]Just limit it to 1 proc honestly and remove the damage by range reduction or leave the damage reduction in but make mages cast through arrows. EDIT: Dsoma wise i think mage v mage / mage v archer is fine. I think there is a bit of hysteria around mages (myself included) and that how OP the bows are is just being ignored because it suits people. Tank up the range 1 characters on dsoma, more hp, more base wisdom and maybe fix the weaken proc so that people can serum it. Otherwise I think mages are ok on Dsoma.[/quote]
"SB99" or leave the damage reduction in but make mages cast through arrows.


Sounds like a great idea for a 250 skill aura, cast through physical damage
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[quote="FEEBLE"][quote="SB99"] or leave the damage reduction in but make mages cast through arrows.[/quote] Sounds like a great idea for a 250 skill aura, cast through physical damage[/quote]
Double post, the beers got me
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[quote="FEEBLE"]Double post, the beers got me [/quote]
"_GANDALF_"This is terribly wrong.
Instead of reducing the scope, we need to revive the layering of dragon proc.
How would bow DMG explain?
Reduce bow dmg


I understand the damage over distance nerf, means they have to get involved, and whilst the attack buff to the new bows may work on hsoma as everyone can chop and change and have equal dex, dsoma archers carry way too much dex gap, kicking out same dps as spear and axe whilst holding 30+ extra dex gives them cap eva and acc
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[quote="CLIMAX"][quote="_GANDALF_"]This is terribly wrong. Instead of reducing the scope, we need to revive the layering of dragon proc. How would bow DMG explain? Reduce bow dmg [/quote] I understand the damage over distance nerf, means they have to get involved, and whilst the attack buff to the new bows may work on hsoma as everyone can chop and change and have equal dex, dsoma archers carry way too much dex gap, kicking out same dps as spear and axe whilst holding 30+ extra dex gives them cap eva and acc[/quote]
"FEEBLE"
"SB99"

Also to note: Hsoma 5th axe could really do with a nerf to the duration, due to the amount of people that use it and how frustrating and boring it is

And/or the inability to switch weapons until aura is able to be cast again


+1 fully agree you shouldn't be able to 5th axe and instantly switch to a 250 recoil knux

should lock your wep for 10-15 seconds after aura use

would make Rvr somewhat balanced
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[quote="MAGEY"][quote="FEEBLE"][quote="SB99"] Also to note: Hsoma 5th axe could really do with a nerf to the duration, due to the amount of people that use it and how frustrating and boring it is[/quote] And/or the inability to switch weapons until aura is able to be cast again [/quote] +1 fully agree you shouldn't be able to 5th axe and instantly switch to a 250 recoil knux should lock your wep for 10-15 seconds after aura use would make Rvr somewhat balanced[/quote]
Imagine crying about someone 1 banging you on hsoma to go to the devil side to one bang people....
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[quote="TEMEROSO"]Imagine crying about someone 1 banging you on hsoma to go to the devil side to one bang people....[/quote]
can the proc spells get lower coefficients? for eg db proc with weak is 700dmg cant they nerf it for eg to 350 with weak?
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[quote="SYONIDE"]can the proc spells get lower coefficients? for eg db proc with weak is 700dmg cant they nerf it for eg to 350 with weak?[/quote]

 

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