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"AXOM" So we agree mages are over powered? archers with val weaps are also close second nowadays but thats a separate conversation "pointless dsoma PvP now.. proc really needs looking at" - its been like this since the last post that was shared on this thread... and only difference is at the time you guys had about 10ish active mages and we had probably 2-3 ... now it's probably close to even but again just shows how much better mages are than every other class. You can't ask to nerf dispel before reworking/nerfing proc mage.. its just stupid to try and make mages even stronger Imagine how tanky dsoma mages are, and now imagine 3-6 of them running into gvw and activating their 5th aura and having free cast for few seconds... it will instantly delete everyone around the stone.. dispel counters that at least. The request on this thread isn't even just for 5th aura its for anything.. so imo its just going to break the balance even more
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="AXOM"]
Been saying this for a while, and I know a few others have including mages. Seems that this style of 1 proc bang is all that people can do so spec it and hot for the lucky kill…
Pointless dsoma PvP now, proc really needs looking at, each time it triggers it’s like another mage atk…
Unfortunately mate, need to look closer to home as to the people who don’t want to get rid of it as believe it’s some sort of conspiracy theory to nerf particular characters… clearly the opposite, but until that attitudes sorted games not worth playing. [/quote]
So we agree mages are over powered? archers with val weaps are also close second nowadays but thats a separate conversation
"pointless dsoma PvP now.. proc really needs looking at" - its been like this since the last post that was shared on this thread... and only difference is at the time you guys had about 10ish active mages and we had probably 2-3 ... now it's probably close to even but again just shows how much better mages are than every other class.
You can't ask to nerf dispel before reworking/nerfing proc mage.. its just stupid to try and make mages even stronger
Imagine how tanky dsoma mages are, and now imagine 3-6 of them running into gvw and activating their 5th aura and having free cast for few seconds... it will instantly delete everyone around the stone.. dispel counters that at least.
The request on this thread isn't even just for 5th aura its for anything.. so imo its just going to break the balance even more[/quote]
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#16 2021/08/29 10:10:43 |
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Mages are only strong because of the low hp on Dsoma, 300 extra hp, weaken proc fixed and its problem solved.
To describe archers as second to mages is honestly ridiculous. A mage is easy to kill while an archer is next to impossible to kill (for a good player) - Archers easily outdamage mages consistently. Mages have the potential to outdamage an archer. Any nerf to mages directly buffs archers even more. This is why the hp MUST go up and no direct nerf should come into play until then.
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[quote="SB99"]Mages are only strong because of the low hp on Dsoma, 300 extra hp, weaken proc fixed and its problem solved.
To describe archers as second to mages is honestly ridiculous. A mage is easy to kill while an archer is next to impossible to kill (for a good player) - Archers easily outdamage mages consistently. Mages have the potential to outdamage an archer.
Any nerf to mages directly buffs archers even more. This is why the hp MUST go up and no direct nerf should come into play until then.[/quote]
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#17 2021/08/29 15:54:29 |
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"AFRO""AXOM" Mages always have with the introduction of new proc, not really had 10 plus mages (can even think of 10 mages…) and you’ve had more than 2/3… and I know Merlin has but also few other mages from omertà that have said that mages and proc are overpowered. Seems now with cap increase from 120-135 is benefiting mages and also increase in people stacking multiple procs seems like it’s swung the tide fully into mages hands. My point is proc needs sorting all types of proc so you can only stack so much and so much can trigger per hit… again dispel is good but only for archers, pointless for other classes. Archers need looking at, at the same time in my opinion, the fact archer can out dex an archer is stupid. Until these things are fixed, it’ll be mage and archer dominant PvP classes and will continue to be.
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[quote="AXOM"][quote="AFRO"][quote="AXOM"]
Been saying this for a while, and I know a few others have including mages. Seems that this style of 1 proc bang is all that people can do so spec it and hot for the lucky kill…
Pointless dsoma PvP now, proc really needs looking at, each time it triggers it’s like another mage atk…
Unfortunately mate, need to look closer to home as to the people who don’t want to get rid of it as believe it’s some sort of conspiracy theory to nerf particular characters… clearly the opposite, but until that attitudes sorted games not worth playing. [/quote]
So we agree mages are over powered? archers with val weaps are also close second nowadays but thats a separate conversation
"pointless dsoma PvP now.. proc really needs looking at" - its been like this since the last post that was shared on this thread... and only difference is at the time you guys had about 10ish active mages and we had probably 2-3 ... now it's probably close to even but again just shows how much better mages are than every other class.
You can't ask to nerf dispel before reworking/nerfing proc mage.. its just stupid to try and make mages even stronger
Imagine how tanky dsoma mages are, and now imagine 3-6 of them running into gvw and activating their 5th aura and having free cast for few seconds... it will instantly delete everyone around the stone.. dispel counters that at least.
The request on this thread isn't even just for 5th aura its for anything.. so imo its just going to break the balance even more[/quote]
Mages always have with the introduction of new proc, not really had 10 plus mages (can even think of 10 mages…) and you’ve had more than 2/3… and I know Merlin has but also few other mages from omertà that have said that mages and proc are overpowered.
Seems now with cap increase from 120-135 is benefiting mages and also increase in people stacking multiple procs seems like it’s swung the tide fully into mages hands. My point is proc needs sorting all types of proc so you can only stack so much and so much can trigger per hit… again dispel is good but only for archers, pointless for other classes.
Archers need looking at, at the same time in my opinion, the fact archer can out dex an archer is stupid.
Until these things are fixed, it’ll be mage and archer dominant PvP classes and will continue to be.
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#18 2021/08/29 17:20:01 |
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Aye so many things to take into consideration, and if we had dedicated GM time then we potentially can tackle / rebalance some of these issues but as it stands right now I think we can all agree that we have bigger issues than dispel proc and just nerfing dispel proc without anything else will fuck the balance between mages and archers.
Your frustration with dispel in hsoma might be valid since some bows can get to 300-400 rec but again a pure str/mage might not be the way to go in hsoma.. dex mage should easily counter these proc issues and yes dsoma requires extra hp to keep in line with humans health
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[quote="AFRO"]Aye so many things to take into consideration, and if we had dedicated GM time then we potentially can tackle / rebalance some of these issues but as it stands right now I think we can all agree that we have bigger issues than dispel proc and just nerfing dispel proc without anything else will fuck the balance between mages and archers.
Your frustration with dispel in hsoma might be valid since some bows can get to 300-400 rec but again a pure str/mage might not be the way to go in hsoma.. dex mage should easily counter these proc issues and yes dsoma requires extra hp to keep in line with humans health
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#19 2021/08/29 20:22:44 |
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Range on a whole is broken
Mages 1 banging eachother is ridiculous The new bow is even more outrageous, humans have been gifted near 100min attack buff? (Because skills doubles it) and still attaining the same recoil as before The range nerf has done nothing in its current state, proc damage doesn't seem to be affected at all by said range nerf, only original spell And don't get me started on dsoma, the fact their archers have been gifted the same attack as every other class but they start with a 99% hit rate and 80% evasion on every other class (nuk might cut into that but only very marginal)
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[quote="CLIMAX"]Range on a whole is broken
Mages 1 banging eachother is ridiculous
The new bow is even more outrageous, humans have been gifted near 100min attack buff? (Because skills doubles it) and still attaining the same recoil as before
The range nerf has done nothing in its current state, proc damage doesn't seem to be affected at all by said range nerf, only original spell
And don't get me started on dsoma, the fact their archers have been gifted the same attack as every other class but they start with a 99% hit rate and 80% evasion on every other class (nuk might cut into that but only very marginal)[/quote]
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#20 2021/08/31 08:08:08 |
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"CLIMAX"Range on a whole is broken 100% Game balancing especially hsoma vs dsoma is completely fucked. Dsoma archers now just run until 4th CD is ready then 1hit + 4th a target and usually kills. I only hope that a rebalancing will be done, with community feedback on a test server.
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[quote="AFRO"][quote="CLIMAX"]Range on a whole is broken
Mages 1 banging eachother is ridiculous
The new bow is even more outrageous, humans have been gifted near 100min attack buff? (Because skills doubles it) and still attaining the same recoil as before
The range nerf has done nothing in its current state, proc damage doesn't seem to be affected at all by said range nerf, only original spell
And don't get me started on dsoma, the fact their archers have been gifted the same attack as every other class but they start with a 99% hit rate and 80% evasion on every other class (nuk might cut into that but only very marginal)[/quote]
100%
Game balancing especially hsoma vs dsoma is completely fucked.
Dsoma archers now just run until 4th CD is ready then 1hit + 4th a target and usually kills.
I only hope that a rebalancing will be done, with community feedback on a test server. [/quote]
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#21 2021/08/31 08:56:41 |
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Sadly it needed that before the last round of gear was added, had such potential but everyone that saw the stats before would have known this would be the result
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#22 2021/08/31 10:28:51 |
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@sb99 u tried an immunity pot, if your struggling?
White serum to cure dispel black serum to cure zombie Died loads to zombie. don't hear me moaning. I would love to see zombie proc tab added like dispel and reflection proc etc. Adapt and over come as you preach ;)
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[quote="4634"]@sb99 u tried an immunity pot, if your struggling?
White serum to cure dispel
black serum to cure zombie
Died loads to zombie. don't hear me moaning. I would love to see zombie proc tab added like dispel and reflection proc etc.
Adapt and over come as you preach ;)
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#23 2021/09/06 19:49:06 |
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