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10% Debuff after range 2 discussion

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Mate you think that is the only unbalanced thing? Proc needs nerfing before anything else .
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[quote="BIGCLIFFY"]Mate you think that is the only unbalanced thing? Proc needs nerfing before anything else . [/quote]
"BIGCLIFFY"Mate you think that is the only unbalanced thing? Proc needs nerfing before anything else .


True mate.
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[quote="CHEREBGADOL"][quote="BIGCLIFFY"]Mate you think that is the only unbalanced thing? Proc needs nerfing before anything else . [/quote] True mate.[/quote]
250/300 rec nega knuckles are still a joke just saying 🤦‍♂️

Only the valour bow really needs a nerf to an extent ,the weps don’t need it because it’s all outpotable , neither does mage ma , Iv never heard a single person complain about ma previously only proc but even then proc is a chance

All knuckles do is use 3rd stone and rely on it yet should be 5th stone or nothing, least a mele with +2 robes and hero neck and earring can survive or have a decent chance to whilst a mage gets battered every time with 350+ def In 3 hitts 100% every time whilst the mele can survive atleast half of the time ….

I suggest making 3rd stone 120 skill and making speed up 80 skill
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[quote="KAIDE"]250/300 rec nega knuckles are still a joke just saying 🤦‍♂️ Only the valour bow really needs a nerf to an extent ,the weps don’t need it because it’s all outpotable , neither does mage ma , Iv never heard a single person complain about ma previously only proc but even then proc is a chance All knuckles do is use 3rd stone and rely on it yet should be 5th stone or nothing, least a mele with +2 robes and hero neck and earring can survive or have a decent chance to whilst a mage gets battered every time with 350+ def In 3 hitts 100% every time whilst the mele can survive atleast half of the time …. I suggest making 3rd stone 120 skill and making speed up 80 skill [/quote]
"KAIDE"250/300 rec nega knuckles are still a joke just saying 🤦‍♂️

Only the valour bow really needs a nerf to an extent ,the weps don’t need it because it’s all outpotable , neither does mage ma , Iv never heard a single person complain about ma previously only proc but even then proc is a chance

All knuckles do is use 3rd stone and rely on it yet should be 5th stone or nothing, least a mele with +2 robes and hero neck and earring can survive or have a decent chance to whilst a mage gets battered every time with 350+ def In 3 hitts 100% every time whilst the mele can survive atleast half of the time ….

I suggest making 3rd stone 120 skill and making speed up 80 skill


Yea, damage is so high that stone is really just ridiculous now that everyone has it. I'd go one further and suggest 5th stone is 200/250 skill and 3rd stone is 170/200 skill so you have to choose between a valour weapon or valour axe with stone!

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[quote="SB99"][quote="KAIDE"]250/300 rec nega knuckles are still a joke just saying 🤦‍♂️ Only the valour bow really needs a nerf to an extent ,the weps don’t need it because it’s all outpotable , neither does mage ma , Iv never heard a single person complain about ma previously only proc but even then proc is a chance All knuckles do is use 3rd stone and rely on it yet should be 5th stone or nothing, least a mele with +2 robes and hero neck and earring can survive or have a decent chance to whilst a mage gets battered every time with 350+ def In 3 hitts 100% every time whilst the mele can survive atleast half of the time …. I suggest making 3rd stone 120 skill and making speed up 80 skill [/quote] Yea, damage is so high that stone is really just ridiculous now that everyone has it. I'd go one further and suggest 5th stone is 200/250 skill and 3rd stone is 170/200 skill so you have to choose between a valour weapon or valour axe with stone! [/quote]
I agree that valor bow needs nerfing(both hsoma and dsoma) there is a issue with old weapons and the % range reduction set at, as the old weaps don't have the attack the new one has so suffers more

Proc needs limiting

For 5th I like the idea of not being able to swop weap wilst auras on cooldown
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[quote="KAZOKU"]I agree that valor bow needs nerfing(both hsoma and dsoma) there is a issue with old weapons and the % range reduction set at, as the old weaps don't have the attack the new one has so suffers more Proc needs limiting For 5th I like the idea of not being able to swop weap wilst auras on cooldown[/quote]
range debuff is fine as is. cant expect to be using tier 3/4 weps and expect high damage? (moronic)

just needs tweaked for magic which was said on discord and was gonna be done. (when thats a diffirent question altogether)

proc was also spoke about being limited to 2 att procs.

could do with making 5th aura's 180/200 skill to use them maybe?

again. have a read through the threads on discord etc. its all been discusses at length many times.
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]range debuff is fine as is. cant expect to be using tier 3/4 weps and expect high damage? (moronic) just needs tweaked for magic which was said on discord and was gonna be done. (when thats a diffirent question altogether) proc was also spoke about being limited to 2 att procs. could do with making 5th aura's 180/200 skill to use them maybe? again. have a read through the threads on discord etc. its all been discusses at length many times.[/quote]
Yeah but it makes stinger p bow and nega bow partly useless lol only valour bow needs it

The nerf isn’t needed in lower tier weps you can outpot it easily it makes stingers and p bow useless completely with laughable dmg
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[quote="KAIDE"]Yeah but it makes stinger p bow and nega bow partly useless lol only valour bow needs it The nerf isn’t needed in lower tier weps you can outpot it easily it makes stingers and p bow useless completely with laughable dmg [/quote]
the whole point was to make them obsolete tho. encourage trading of older weps etc. but its been too long without any info / updates. or even just the tweaks that would have seen the game thrive again.

its been pretty good recently if i do say so myself. got a guild full of people almost capped. we can engage in pvp etc instead of a 1 sided drop from a capped guy with years of gear. altho i dont think the other side like that people can now fight back --__()__--
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]the whole point was to make them obsolete tho. encourage trading of older weps etc. but its been too long without any info / updates. or even just the tweaks that would have seen the game thrive again. its been pretty good recently if i do say so myself. got a guild full of people almost capped. we can engage in pvp etc instead of a 1 sided drop from a capped guy with years of gear. altho i dont think the other side like that people can now fight back --__()__--[/quote]
I’ll say this only once in this thread….


Do you like being one hit off screen? Yes or no?
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[quote="TEMEROSO"]I’ll say this only once in this thread…. Do you like being one hit off screen? Yes or no?[/quote]
we dont deserve it
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[quote="KAIDE"]we dont deserve it [/quote]
Again, the damage on nega bow etc is fine, just don't expect to sit at range 300 pinging bombs,get involved and you'll give the full damage out
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[quote="CLIMAX"]Again, the damage on nega bow etc is fine, just don't expect to sit at range 300 pinging bombs,get involved and you'll give the full damage out[/quote]
"ADVANTAGE"the whole point was to make them obsolete tho. encourage trading of older weps etc. but its been too long without any info / updates. or even just the tweaks that would have seen the game thrive again.


This was the whole point exactly. Make old machine gun bows obsolete. New bows were supposed to be slower with greater damage to compensate for the loss of speed. Valour bows were poorly thought out/implemented, the damage increase was done correctly, the reduction in speed wasn’t.
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[quote="BORISJ"][quote="ADVANTAGE"]the whole point was to make them obsolete tho. encourage trading of older weps etc. but its been too long without any info / updates. or even just the tweaks that would have seen the game thrive again. [/quote] This was the whole point exactly. Make old machine gun bows obsolete. New bows were supposed to be slower with greater damage to compensate for the loss of speed. Valour bows were poorly thought out/implemented, the damage increase was done correctly, the reduction in speed wasn’t. [/quote]
If the reduction were reverted I'd never log a mage again. I'd play my melee and turn it bow. Its already stupid enough with the dmg and speed of the new bows for mages. Why on earth it got a 40 dmg increase from new bow and knuckle only 20 is beyond me. If they start hitting mages max dmg from bow range it's game over for all mages. I for 1 like the change as it make it more feasible to use range 1 weapons and adds more of an element of skill to pk as its not just playing range 7.
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[quote="TINKERSTORM"]If the reduction were reverted I'd never log a mage again. I'd play my melee and turn it bow. Its already stupid enough with the dmg and speed of the new bows for mages. Why on earth it got a 40 dmg increase from new bow and knuckle only 20 is beyond me. If they start hitting mages max dmg from bow range it's game over for all mages. I for 1 like the change as it make it more feasible to use range 1 weapons and adds more of an element of skill to pk as its not just playing range 7.[/quote]
still needs feathers sorted way before anything too
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[quote="ADVANTAGE"]still needs feathers sorted way before anything too[/quote]
"BIGRIK86"-1. We have all had to deal with it. You can't just come back and expect it to be changed for yourself. Adapt and survive.

Thanks for reading


+1, typical biased retard Nite - just wanting to change the game to suit his own agenda once again.

Suck it up buttercup, and maybe get yourself another virtual beach date to ease the pain - you little freak.
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[quote="MIKELOWREY"][quote="BIGRIK86"]-1. We have all had to deal with it. You can't just come back and expect it to be changed for yourself. Adapt and survive. Thanks for reading [/quote] +1, typical biased retard Nite - just wanting to change the game to suit his own agenda once again. Suck it up buttercup, and maybe get yourself another virtual beach date to ease the pain - you little freak.[/quote]

 

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