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[quote="RONA"]I’ve not been around as much in the last year, so I’m a bit rusty about how PK operates now. The last I remember was that if you were PKd twice, you would be immune for a period of time. If that, or something similar, is still in force, can anyone tell me:- 1. What is the specified time allowed between the two Pkings, and 2. How long does the immunity last? Many thanks in anticipation[/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The 2 pk rule was taken away and replaced with immunity potions. The immunity potion must be used in town to give you the immunity and it lasts 1 hour I believe. You can be pk’d as many times as they want to kill you, or until you warp or are forced warped.[/quote]

[quote="RONA"]Thank you - that's very helpful. I tend to think of the Pkers as Putin's myrmidons and the Elderly refugees as those they murder. It's a good thing, perhaps, that Soma hasn't added rape as a a bonus for the Pkers. [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]And I believe you now can’t defend yourself in normal attack mode if you get attacked, you now have to go into pk mode if you choose to defend yourself which I find an absolutely stupid decision.[/quote]

[quote="RONA"]If that's true, then it parallels even more the Ukraine situation. [/quote]

[quote="RONA"]Isylver posted this: We'd like to show our solidarity and support for Ukraine in this difficult time. Until April we'll have an event where Blue Sky Tokens and Wheat Field tokens (colours of the Ukraine flag) drop throughout the lands of soma. These can be traded with Onzu for a reward. During this time we've also enabled double drops and double rates for all. It’s a mirror image of Soma, and therefore a hypocrisy. [/quote]

[quote="THE_D0N"]With this - If u defend yourself and hit/ fight back and more come so it's no longer a 1v1 it's more and u decided to use a immune pot ... It won't work. If someone trys to pk in order to use a pot u CANT hit back. You either carry in till out of pots to the have s reason to warp for pots + a potion. Or warp n save a few mins to runs back. These immune pots currently are in dailys or 2 X daily marks = 2 X immune pots. BUT .. there's alot of chat about people wanting removed - reverted back - changed So it may change in the future. [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]The only time you will see a lone pk’er is when there attacking...... Lower level players. Undergeared players. PvE players who have absolutely no interest in pk. Rest of the time they hunt in packs because it’s what cowards do. Funny thing though is about half of these so called pk’ers are using modified clients, bots, cheats then have the stupidity to world shout how eazzzzy it is, probably still post there achievement on discord too and there getting away with it. Probably one of the main reasons why the UC is at the state it is, because cheaters seem to be getting away with everything.[/quote]

[quote="TUMBLEWEED"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]And I believe you now can’t defend yourself in normal attack mode if you get attacked, you now have to go into pk mode if you choose to defend yourself which I find an absolutely stupid decision.[/quote] Couldn't agree more. Pressing the tab key an extra time to engage a pker is ridiculous. If only the fix was as beneficial as stopping grey pkers grief healers in town and stopping auras such as 2nd spear hitting grey players at bosses therefore removing their immunity thus removing their ability to fight a boss. Such a silly change...[/quote]

[quote="THE_D0N"]With these pots - If u use 1. It lasts an hour. The time continue whether ur in game or not - in town or not. BUT. If u was to hit back. U get a anti immune pot timer of an hour. With that if u log - sit in down that times DOESNT move until your back out of town. [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"][quote="THE_D0N"]With these pots - If u use 1. It lasts an hour. The time continue whether ur in game or not - in town or not. BUT. If u was to hit back. U get a anti immune pot timer of an hour. With that if u log - sit in down that times DOESNT move until your back out of town. [/quote] So you have to be ingame for the full hour to make full use of the immunity pot. But if you have the audacity to defend yourself and fight back your punished. Clearly you can see from how these immunity potions work that the people running this server don’t actually play this server at all........[/quote]

[quote="FOR5"]Is immunity potion / how it currently works a great implementation? no Was the previous way with 2 death / immune for x time a good solution? fuck no as people abused the shit out of it What is Soma end game content? For a small group of players, its making 100s of accounts/characters because god knows everyone by now has capped players For the rest end game is PvP... and soma/this server at least has always had 2 main PvP sides for both dsoma and hsoma.. the game should be PvP focused and that would bring and retain the player base. There should be PvP tokens - some sort of incentives for players to do more PvP and get tokens that they can use to buy items. Gear is something you need to farm end game but can do it with PvP on. If your not interested in PvP as end game, then IMO Soma isn't for you... why do you play a game that you spend months training/gearing up?... I am not saying don't play soma, just dont bitch about the PvP In terms of cheats/botters... that absolutely needs to be tackled. Game should lean towards harder mode.. instant TP shouldn't be a thing.. even immunity potion shouldn't really be a thing but I understand for those players who may want to just be left alone x hours a day./week. [/quote]

[quote="3D"]Reality is most people never cared about pvp. There's always been a relatively small amount of people taking part in it and half of them spend more time shouting in world chat than actually pvping. It's an awful pvp game where gear and numbers matter significantly more than any sort of skill or ability, and the pvp itself has literally no point. There's no objective, nothing to win or lose. You warp to gv, fight for a bit and then shout about how the other side is botting or brought more people, then repeat the next day. So much time and effort has already been poured into pvp with balancing and appeasing the toddlers and look how many people are left. But yeah, go even further down that road. It has worked so well.[/quote]

[quote="FOR5"][quote="3D"]Reality is most people never cared about pvp. There's always been a relatively small amount of people taking part in it and half of them spend more time shouting in world chat than actually pvping. It's an awful pvp game where gear and numbers matter significantly more than any sort of skill or ability, and the pvp itself has literally no point. There's no objective, nothing to win or lose. You warp to gv, fight for a bit and then shout about how the other side is botting or brought more people, then repeat the next day. So much time and effort has already been poured into pvp with balancing and appeasing the toddlers and look how many people are left. But yeah, go even further down that road. It has worked so well.[/quote] What reality is that? PvP is the largest part of the game... this isn't a skill based game... well you can apply minimum skills but end of the day it has always heavily relied on gear + level. So you must work hard in PVE to be top at PvP... well there is also a large portion of RNG when it comes to crafting gear. The current UC is down to how old this game is, the lack of updates and marketing isn't helping with the UC... yes some people have left the game due to getting pkd but I suspect a much larger population have left due to the limitation of PvP... the introduction of immunity and the amount of times PK was getting turned off. If you go to YT and search for Myth of Soma, you actually get alot of newish videos and they are mainly if not all related to PvP. Without PvP in this game, it will be the end for the game... the guys who usually fight hard to turn of PvP or want immunity are usually botters. Having said that, PvP does bring out toxic players... there are some cringeworthy comments/moments in the game that goes way beyond simple banter but thats not fault of the PvP in the game, just the 5-10 ish individuals who thinks this is more important than real life. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play the game and not involve yourself in PvP, but you got to accept PvP might come your way. [/quote]

[quote="3D"]If pvp is the largest part of this game why is it almost always 4 or 5 people fighting? Why is it the same handful of people in the pk feed all the time? It's been that way for years too. Of course the youtube clips are of pvp, who's recording themselves clicking on a mob and uploading it? Obviously the UC is low because it's an old, infrequently updated game. I would also suggest it's lower in the last year or two because so many updates that did come out were focused on the pvp side. Be it balance tweaks or the changes to immunity certain people demanded and then left anyway. I do find it amusing you saying that people who want the pvp to end or want immunity are the botters - the only reason to bot is to get stuff to aid in pvp, you even said yourself that you have to work hard in pve to be involved in pvp. I would honestly be shocked if more than one or two of the bot chars are ultimately controlled by pve players, unless they're looking to sell stuff to the pvp people for a few extra pennies. I'm not going to turn this into a pointless back and forth, I'll simply end by saying I just don't see pvp as, now or ever, being the *majority* of players. The numbers and the feed just don't equate to that, not even close to it. I don't really care about it being in the game - I have much better games to pvp on and I'll never see the appeal of it in soma. Obviously some people enjoy it and that's fine, but pushing updates to focus purely on pvp would only result in the same dozen or so people shouting the same witty stuff at each other for a few more years - as has been happening with all the pvp balance and immunity changes. [/quote]