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[quote="LUP2SCUS"]well... just giving an opinion.. said it wasn't popular. will keep shushed on the matter from now on x [/quote]

[quote="TYRESE"]To combat mages cast problem give Hsoma 4th staff like Dsoma has and that would solve all the issues. It’s worked on Dsoma for years. The vast majority of mages use 5th axe first anyway so it isn’t like they aren’t going to cast at all anyway. [/quote]

[quote="PROD"]Rather than changing the anvil why not just make upgrades easier to obtain. No to ghost. [/quote]

[quote="LUP2SCUS"]having just broke someone's valour bow trying an upgrade.. going from +2 to +3... im sure they would have appreciated a free +3 up to the community what they want or prefer.. or more to the point.. up to the gm's... but as ppl keep saying.. breaking at +2 is painful Ideally..from a personal point of view... 200+ crafters should get a free +3. Discuss hehe Or, probaby less greedy would be a free +3 for everyone for all items that go to +8 Or.. the ghost method, which some seem to prefer. [/quote]

[quote="BIGBERT"]maybe as-is now until you have +5 then ghost for +6 onwards?[/quote]

[quote="3D"]Guaranteed +3 doesn't solve the real issue, it just moves it further down the road. X time from now people would want guaranteed +4 because they keep breaking stuff going from 3 to 4. It doesn't address anything, you just break stuff at a different point. Ghost is a relatively simple addition and would boost the economy without having to overhaul it completely. I imagine the +2 won out in the discussion last time because at that point it wasn't a full time job to replace things the anvil ate. You could realistically farm and trade to replace them, now you can't. [/quote]

[quote="LUP2SCUS"]guaranteed +3 makes a lot of weps viable that didn't break at +2 It's 2 years, or thereabouts the +2 was brought in.... if a +3 was brought in now.. another 2 years before ppl started moaning, asking for more... that wouldn't be that bad would it.. or bring in ghosting... and form ur place in the queue at df/palus and try find some sd's x other than that,, wotever tbh .[/quote]

[quote="3D"]Lots of things drop diamonds, Loopy, and more consistently than palus and devilfish. You make it sound like people out killing mobs is a bad thing and not, you know, the most significant part of the primary gameplay loop.[/quote]

[quote="PHARMA"]it would be more than possible with some degree of bad luck to have a ++8 weapon that has had 6 fails. so you only have the speed from the first 2 upgrades. perhaps limiting ghosting to +5. [/quote]

[quote="SB99"]Remove the free +2 and replace with ghost upgrade, to limit weapon speed only 3 ss per weapon and only for +6, +7 and +8 which would stop the weapons hitting 300-350 recoil which is only a matter of time before it happens and the weapons become a bigger issue! I believe the fastest was 399 at +7 on a val bow? Only saw a pic of it so could of been faked (it is still possible to get faster at +7 anyway) but if it went +8 it could have hit 335 recoil! [/quote]

[quote="_CHAOS_"][quote="SB99"]Remove the free +2 and replace with ghost upgrade, to limit weapon speed only 3 ss per weapon and only for +6, +7 and +8 which would stop the weapons hitting 300-350 recoil which is only a matter of time before it happens and the weapons become a bigger issue! I believe the fastest was 399 at +7 on a val bow? Only saw a pic of it so could of been faked (it is still possible to get faster at +7 anyway) but if it went +8 it could have hit 335 recoil! [/quote] wasnt faked and broke They should increase range and cast speed of new spell add 4th aura as well, to compensate instead as people have already made insanely fast valour weapons. Free +8 all the way soul bound items [/quote]

[quote="_CHAOS_"][quote="PROD"]Rather than changing the anvil why not just make upgrades easier to obtain. No to ghost. [/quote] Because that would be too simple and too smart and make the game too enjoyable [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Why not just make first 5 upgrades 100% success and those that wish to risk trying +6, +7, +8 take the chance with rng. Not everyone plays 24/7, investing the time/effort into soma has become more of a second job to most genuine players that play by the rules. You have the risk trying with combine, you have a risk trying to make the upgrades themselves, then you have the risk at the anvil...... Way tooooooooo many obstacles in place to suck all the fun out of logging on anymore, yes it’s always been like it before the posts start coming, but that was when soma had 300, 400, 500+ players in it’s time, there was an actual economy, there wasn’t this few items that are worth anything and have 95% of items worthless. I’ve said it before, bring the fun back into soma, bring the rewards versus invested time back into soma and the UC will come back. The reason the (fake/ghosting) didn’t happen iSylver and the to the rest of you was during the discussion I pointed out to rest of the council at the time that the majority of players felt the guarantee +2 was the better option than the ghosting and I pointed out, not to rush because this anvil decision was a very important one to take since the anvil/upgrading is a very important point of this game we all love soma.[/quote]

[quote="_CHAOS_"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Why not just make first 5 upgrades 100% success and those that wish to risk trying +6, +7, +8 take the chance with rng. Not everyone plays 24/7, investing the time/effort into soma has become more of a second job to most genuine players that play by the rules. You have the risk trying with combine, you have a risk trying to make the upgrades themselves, then you have the risk at the anvil...... Way tooooooooo many obstacles in place to suck all the fun out of logging on anymore, yes it’s always been like it before the posts start coming, but that was when soma had 300, 400, 500+ players in it’s time, there was an actual economy, there wasn’t this few items that are worth anything and have 95% of items worthless. I’ve said it before, bring the fun back into soma, bring the rewards versus invested time back into soma and the UC will come back. The reason the (fake/ghosting) didn’t happen iSylver and the to the rest of you was during the discussion I pointed out to rest of the council at the time that the majority of players felt the guarantee +2 was the better option than the ghosting and I pointed out, not to rush because this anvil decision was a very important one to take since the anvil/upgrading is a very important point of this game we all love soma.[/quote] yeh but as you said at the time there was alot more players and an economy. now its stale and boring. +5 100% no. - would take the fun out of the game completely. Upgrades and boss kills should be achievable for all players like casual noncausal and they're not. Gms should look at adding 4th staff in hsoma. Going off topics about auras. Reason why everyone runs axe/bow is for stone and range like before 5th sword used to be op but now theres no incentive to go any other way. Adding 4th staff will give mages an advantage over the insane recoil and damage of a bow. I play all classes. Proc is insane damage vs insight/ma dmg since the range nerf has come in. easier to make proc and be op rather than use boss gear and souls which is useless on a mage for pvp. proc dont seem to lose as much damage as ma? Also don t get why dsoma double tabs int/str dont have dual stats like +2 str and +2 con or 1 str 1 con opposed to 2 str? same with wisdom and int [/quote]

[quote="RAVENSOUL"][quote="_CHAOS_"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Why not just make first 5 upgrades 100% success and those that wish to risk trying +6, +7, +8 take the chance with rng. Not everyone plays 24/7, investing the time/effort into soma has become more of a second job to most genuine players that play by the rules. You have the risk trying with combine, you have a risk trying to make the upgrades themselves, then you have the risk at the anvil...... Way tooooooooo many obstacles in place to suck all the fun out of logging on anymore, yes it’s always been like it before the posts start coming, but that was when soma had 300, 400, 500+ players in it’s time, there was an actual economy, there wasn’t this few items that are worth anything and have 95% of items worthless. I’ve said it before, bring the fun back into soma, bring the rewards versus invested time back into soma and the UC will come back. The reason the (fake/ghosting) didn’t happen iSylver and the to the rest of you was during the discussion I pointed out to rest of the council at the time that the majority of players felt the guarantee +2 was the better option than the ghosting and I pointed out, not to rush because this anvil decision was a very important one to take since the anvil/upgrading is a very important point of this game we all love soma.[/quote] yeh but as you said at the time there was alot more players and an economy. now its stale and boring. +5 100% no. - would take the fun out of the game completely. Upgrades and boss kills should be achievable for all players like casual noncausal and they're not.[/quote] You reply with “would take the fun out of the game completely” Let’s actually look at this present fun you claim exists within soma at the moment......... You will spend a few months acquiring let’s say valour scrolls enough for maybe an epic tag, enough small diamonds to attempt to turn them into SS to attempt the actual upgrade, taking into consideration the extra for the fails in what does happen making enough SS to try going 0-+5 or even 0-+8. This alone is very time consuming, now you take it all to anvil and as we know you can get it +2 no sweat, easy. You try going +3 and before your very eyes the game rips out your heart, stomps on it and then pisses all over you and you then hear the anvil saying better luck next time hahahahaha........ Or maybe your lucky and get it +3 and then it breaks going +4, or maybe really lucky and get it to +4 and yes you guessed it, it breaks at going +5...... can you see where this is going right up to +6, +7?????? This isn’t fun, it’s why so many players have left over the years. Let’s look at the scenario if it was ghosting...... You fail going +3 but you still have that epic valour weapon just still really at +2, so you try again it fails again so you now have a +4 but it’s still only +2 and you keep going trying again, you get to +5 and guess what it’s still really a +2 and possibly ruined, are you then going to have your fun trying to salvage it 3 more times or cut your losses???? Both scenarios don’t seem like any type of fun that I would enjoy. Where is the actual fun in investing months to then find yourself back at square one with feck all to show for your time? At least if going +5 with 100% success was here more players would have something to show for all there time invested and would keep them playing because there having fun and seeing the rewards for playing regardless of your a 24/7 or a 1-2 hours here and there player. Going the +6 to +8 would be the risky part and so it should be imho. [/quote]