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"OLM"As a returning player.

I'm not sure much can be done by the GMs to rectify the biggest issue in this game and that is community and guilds. From what I see there is two sides and a few solo players, I have been looking at thousands of screenies from esoma and the community was much more fluid. I have spoken to 7 people in Soma and that is it. Everyone else is PvP mad and doesn't have time for the "role play" aspect of it, I get it though it's human nature to become competitive.

The reason Esoma did so well and hold so many good memories for people is:

There was a mix of guilds and multiple rivalries were formed and many alliances.

Stats didn't matter, because of how long it took to get to lvl 100 and the soft cap being like 100 dex, you had the right mix of sword/knuckle/bow/spear etc because you knew you were ending up within 10 stats of the next person regardless of how you leveled, whereas now the difference in dex is so obvious it forces you to level a certain way, for example I have 97 dex 127 str... I have been told by the people I talk to that I might aswell remake char because I will be useless at lvl 135 unless i go axe/int from here. Why can't I carry on doing a lvl of bow followed by a level of spear until cap and still be able to compete? I'm putting in just as much work as anyone else.

Upgrades didn't matter as much because they never fully got to a point we had multiple pkers running around with machine gun bows and massive acc/eva.


The quest system needs a complete overhaul - there's no story line at all it's boring and seems like a cheap way of gaining bonus points with the players "Oh we added 5 brain numbing quests" we know you don't like it but you can't say we didn't do anything. Not having a go, i'm sure you did it with the best intentions but theres literally people volunteering to write you up a story line.

I think the biggest mistake here has been catering to the hardcore Pvpers more than the casual players and I don't mean immunity or anything like that, but keeping us engaged in the game and allowing us to keep playing and progressing and upkeeping our own community as the casuals did pre Lvl 100, after this point and the game becomes copy and paste where the hardcore players can run around griefing people, it becomes boring and tedious with abuse most of us don't want.

"YABBADABBA"I think if there is a server reset I'd like to see slow rates but way higher drop rates adding toe drops to low lvl.mobs aswell as diamond make the endgame lvling instead of farming for gear a endgame of farming for gear is toxic with anvil but a endgame of lvling is guaranteed reward for time spent pking with +8 50 skill weps be funny slower stats would also bring more build diversity as u would benefit getting faster stats str/int to get ahead early

"MATTY"The only way to “remove” the cheating is to remove the grind.

You can never really fully police bot/buying/selling/pilot.

But if people didnt need to do it they wouldnt hence removing it.


Ghost upgrades
Faster rates
More drops and new drop files
And bigger rewards in ToV/ssWotw etc so when you actually play you get rewarded.

I appreciate you honesty and i blive the original council had the best ideas so something along those lines with an equal number of different “types” of players is needed for an even vote of things.

"FOXTRCK"I



6.The moral system / death drop worked with slower rates and a genuine punishment but its important to say, as Kaz has already, it doesn't when the rates are too fast as after while people then have disposable characters. So consider that when planning for the server, ignore people asking for rate increases or one off fixes, just go by the population and community. If the rates are slower, you can keep immunity / 2 deaths disabled for a time.

"RAVENSOUL"You might as well just turn the server off and save your time Finito if you wipe the server, or rewind. The server is 10 years old mistakes have been made but that’s not enough reason for either of the above. Live with where we are at and carry on, everything can be fixed it’s just going to take some time, energy and patience on all of us.

Here’s a wild thought, remove valour weapons/armours, sort the damage out on the weapons, increase the low df on these new armour, cap recoil on weapons, return all anvil ripped valour weapons/armours to original characters fix ss to max +5, increase toe to +8 and dsoma equivalent upgrade to +8 then it will be a slight restart of valour. Also place the ability to buy what tag you want and still have the current option of taking risk and gambling with whatever tag you get both options imho should be available.

Main problem that requires a great reset though is balance. The game is totally pointless now because basically any semblance of balance has been totally and utterly destroyed by the compound effects of multiple clueless decisions about the game.

Refresh would be hype af, draw a lot of people back esp if advertised that you were undoing a lot of the mistakes. Why did people play before and not now? Folks dropped off because of the terrible decisions were made that were supposedly meant to improve things and did nothing but kill off the player-base despite constant feedback and warnings against them. Where mistakes were made they were always doubled down on and never undone. Anybody who spoke up was banned.

"FINITO"Any ideas on how to setup some way of 'voting' changes in?

"CHOJINE"Personally I’d be interested in a twin server, same rates, significantly increased drop rates, esoma weapons only.

Cap of 100, start with 30 Con.

See how it goes over 1 year, my gut tells me many would play and the significant drop increase would remove the biggest issue with soma - going back to square one multiple times.

The level 100 cap would also restore stat balance.

Oh and anything above +5 account bound.

5, remodel the val weapons, they look very out of place. No disrespect to whoever made them thought.