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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]I've done some testing with the new pill of devastation upgrade and well, they seem pretty poor tbh, anything with no X next to it means 1 hit 90 Base damage on dummy 1 part 94 - 102 90 x 90 94 95 x 2 96 x 4 97 99 101 2 parts - 98 - 113 90 x 78 94 x 2 95 x 2 96 x 4 97 x 4 98 99 x 5 100 x 4 3 parts - 102 - 123 90 x 78 94 96 x 2 97 x 5 98 x 5 99 100 x 2 101 x 2 102 104 105 107 300 hits with wrath of fei +4-11(13%) and 3 +4-11(10%) 106-134 bonus damage 90 x 193 94 x 12 95 x 17 96 x 7 97 x 10 98 x 10 99 x 14 100 x 9 101 x 14 102 104 x 4 105 106 x 4 107 109 110 115 On the 300 hits with 3 pieces and wrath of fei the below happens 15% chance for at least one to work 94 - 97= 46 15% chance for at least 1-2 to work 97 - 101 = 47 3% chance for 2-3 to work 102 - 106 = 10 Most annoying thing is, you never hit anywhere close to the max bonus damage when using 3/4 pieces. I've also tested when hunting and accuracy is better by around 1/3 - 1/4 for killing BLG, i'm unsure what it'd be like with killing lower dex monsters, but i'm assuming with it being a new upgrade from the top tiered bosses it should be better then accuracy surely? It'd be nice if it stacked like the rest of upgrades, poison, evasion, accuracy etc. Even if the numbers where changed, say to 2-6(10%) for each piece, then for it to stack to 4-12(11%), 6-18(12%)[/quote]

[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]I don't see why it just couldn't be... Say 4-8 2% And actually be a proper stackable upgrade like Poison is, Accuracy and Evasion. At the moment melee PVP is acc/evasion/toes. It would be nice to see other upgrades come into play, this is a good starting point. More damage but at a genuine risk/reward to constant hitting or evasion. It would be nice to see the melee attack upgrade increased. Maybe 1~5 attack per pill. And actually see people upgrading weapons with attack over speed. More variation we have the better. [/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]As it stands it has no purpose without stacking properly. Will never be used in leui of hero/acc/Eva[/quote]

[quote="GANDALF"]Getting 5-6 hit by melle chars as it is, I don't see the need to give them more damage :/ /gand[/quote]

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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]If you compare it to int, people are 2-3 hitted with int as it is. My point of this thread just shows that this upgrade is totally pointless in comparison to evasion/accuracy. This new upgrade especially being a new boss upgrade (Bearing in mind Gorshak/Dionaea take 60/30 mins to kill) should be at least comparable to accuracy for hunting wise, but at the moment nobody will ever use these upgrades as accuracy will always come up trumps. Tested in pvp as well and accuracy/evasion is also better, this leaves no option for the new upgrades to be used realistically [/quote]

[quote="SATAN2"][quote="GANDALF"]Getting 5-6 hit by melle chars as it is, I don't see the need to give them more damage :/ /gand[/quote] Can only assume this is a troll.[/quote]

[quote="QUIMM"]Pills of dread add 3~9(10%) and as iphios mentioned will never be used in place of Eva or acc etc. I don't understand why these weren't just made +9ma or +11 att with the (10%) chance as atleast that way you'd notice when it hit slightly. [/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Bump ... can this be looked at as at the moment they're useless[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Bump ... can this be looked at as at the moment they're useless[/quote] [/quote]