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Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players

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[quote="DOWNFALL"]Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players Post suggestions below community [/quote]
I wouldn’t know exactly what to change or update. Valour was a big nail in the coffin for a lot of players. So a work around on how to obtain valour weapons would be a start.

Champion armor drops from nega so imo that’s fine as it is. Potentially add in another boss which has higher stats than nega which drops valour weaps. Maybe utilise level 4 of the dungeon with the boxes. I’ve read plenty of times on the forum that the dungeon has so many possibilities.

A controversial point, but add in a level raise ONLY if stat gains are adjusted. This has been discussed many times also so I won’t go into huge detail.

Have a slight reduction on boss timers again, 10% maybe? The economy was dead last time I played, it was impossible to buy boss souls. Having a better chance of hunting them yourself would help.

A new tier of weaps / armor with added str and int mobs. But take away these attack aura’s newer mobs have. Nobody enjoyed hunting boars / trolls / vafers / prism spiders.

I’d play again with a few tweaks here and there. I made about 8 capped chars all with the intention of a cap raise coming having completely differing builds but it never came to fruition.



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[quote="MITCHY"]I wouldn’t know exactly what to change or update. Valour was a big nail in the coffin for a lot of players. So a work around on how to obtain valour weapons would be a start. Champion armor drops from nega so imo that’s fine as it is. Potentially add in another boss which has higher stats than nega which drops valour weaps. Maybe utilise level 4 of the dungeon with the boxes. I’ve read plenty of times on the forum that the dungeon has so many possibilities. A controversial point, but add in a level raise ONLY if stat gains are adjusted. This has been discussed many times also so I won’t go into huge detail. Have a slight reduction on boss timers again, 10% maybe? The economy was dead last time I played, it was impossible to buy boss souls. Having a better chance of hunting them yourself would help. A new tier of weaps / armor with added str and int mobs. But take away these attack aura’s newer mobs have. Nobody enjoyed hunting boars / trolls / vafers / prism spiders. I’d play again with a few tweaks here and there. I made about 8 capped chars all with the intention of a cap raise coming having completely differing builds but it never came to fruition. [/quote]
Regarding the boss souls it has been suggested numerous times to give players more chance to gain these to allow the equivalent mobs to also have the chance to drop them obviously on a low drop rate from normal mobs.

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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Regarding the boss souls it has been suggested numerous times to give players more chance to gain these to allow the equivalent mobs to also have the chance to drop them obviously on a low drop rate from normal mobs. [/quote]
Things i would like to see

1: Auction house
2: Auction house
3: Boss drop file overhaul
4: more variants on builds instead of just double tab everything it gets boring and long winded
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[quote="MATTY"]Things i would like to see 1: Auction house 2: Auction house 3: Boss drop file overhaul 4: more variants on builds instead of just double tab everything it gets boring and long winded[/quote]
Returned for Christmas event. I'm more pve based so cba to upgrade to +8.

I would definitely like to see a auction house, as buying from forums doesn't always work (no response after posting a bid). I remember using the auction House in esoma hsoma, but forgot how it works -.- someone enlighten me about how it used to work.

I'd like to see upgrades in auras. Dont know how many level cap increases this game has since release. But for example if its 4 level caps increases, allow auras to be upgraded to maximum level 4. Increase whatever the aura gives, by 3% for example. No big increases, but just something to collect and upgrade. Maybe this can only be accessed after all quests are completed?








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[quote="APOTHEOSIS"]Returned for Christmas event. I'm more pve based so cba to upgrade to +8. I would definitely like to see a auction house, as buying from forums doesn't always work (no response after posting a bid). I remember using the auction House in esoma hsoma, but forgot how it works -.- someone enlighten me about how it used to work. I'd like to see upgrades in auras. Dont know how many level cap increases this game has since release. But for example if its 4 level caps increases, allow auras to be upgraded to maximum level 4. Increase whatever the aura gives, by 3% for example. No big increases, but just something to collect and upgrade. Maybe this can only be accessed after all quests are completed? [/quote]
Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you.

Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway.

The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.
Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are.
Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season.

There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you. Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway. The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap. Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are. Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season. There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well. [/quote]
"OPENTHEDOOR"Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you.

Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway.

The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.
Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are.
Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season.

There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well.


level 110 was the sweet spot for me, ad be up for a wipe with that as a cap raise and some sort of paragon system. Every level you can get say bag weight/hp/mp or something like that., So those who want to no life and complete paragon can, those who just wanna focus on items can.

But ye level 110, no val weps, only SS after +5 and no double tabs was nice.
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[quote="DOWNFALL"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you. Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway. The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap. Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are. Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season. There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well. [/quote] level 110 was the sweet spot for me, ad be up for a wipe with that as a cap raise and some sort of paragon system. Every level you can get say bag weight/hp/mp or something like that., So those who want to no life and complete paragon can, those who just wanna focus on items can. But ye level 110, no val weps, only SS after +5 and no double tabs was nice. [/quote]
Another nice incentive be Able to hand in dailys for valour scrolls

3 dailys max a day that's 30 valour scrolls hand them in just like the mysterious power quest on repeat.

Much as some of us would like val weps to drop some think it's to over powered, so next best solution is another incentive to obtain them in-between horde times.

Double tabs tedious, makes full evasion armour pretty much useless in pk and takes all that time as well to accumulate them.

Also anyone else miss the days of dexy mages being a usable working thing ?? I do ...
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[quote="KAILAN"]Another nice incentive be Able to hand in dailys for valour scrolls 3 dailys max a day that's 30 valour scrolls hand them in just like the mysterious power quest on repeat. Much as some of us would like val weps to drop some think it's to over powered, so next best solution is another incentive to obtain them in-between horde times. Double tabs tedious, makes full evasion armour pretty much useless in pk and takes all that time as well to accumulate them. Also anyone else miss the days of dexy mages being a usable working thing ?? I do ...[/quote]
"DOWNFALL"Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players

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To ask for an update is
In other words, it's to turn the automatic program around and use that update to recover from months of gaming.

Most returning users talk very long in real life with people who have used automatic programs. That's why I'm very suspicious.

They were very close to the returning user. SWIM / SHACO / STARWARS / KGBPLAYER
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[quote="GOLDKIM"][quote="DOWNFALL"]Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players Post suggestions below community [/quote] To ask for an update is In other words, it's to turn the automatic program around and use that update to recover from months of gaming. Most returning users talk very long in real life with people who have used automatic programs. That's why I'm very suspicious. They were very close to the returning user. SWIM / SHACO / STARWARS / KGBPLAYER[/quote]
Finito is doing a great job, well done fin thanks
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[quote="GANGSTERNO1"]Finito is doing a great job, well done fin thanks[/quote]
Make it so monsters killed in tov count towards quests maybe get them to drop items to
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[quote="MY_UNICORN"]Make it so monsters killed in tov count towards quests maybe get them to drop items to [/quote]
"OPENTHEDOOR"Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you.

Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway.

The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.
Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are.
Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season.

There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well.


I like this idea 👌

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[quote="JATSU"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you. Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway. The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap. Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are. Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season. There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well. [/quote] I like this idea 👌 [/quote]
+100 wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.
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[quote="TAICHIBOT"]+100 wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.[/quote]
"DOWNFALL"Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players

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Are they really returning users?
It seems to me that an automatic hunting program or gamemaster creates a new account of people who are suspended from their activities because they believe it is illegal in the game, or accesses unused characters.

I'm sorry but I don't think there are any beginners and returning users on this server. I think I'm saying this because I want to avoid attacks in the game because everyone is either cheating on me or cheating on me or new to me.

Look right now. Look at the FATE Guild people who are returning users or new users. They hunt with automatic hunting programs, and I suspect that raising production skills also turns to programs.

I just hope my doubts are 100% wrong.

Suspected video address of automatic hunting program
1. https://youtu.be/xvHGA1h8gLI
2. https://youtu.be/dfJldFqjuU8
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[quote="GOLDKIM"][quote="DOWNFALL"]Quite a lot of players trying to return to game please add an update to incentivise returning players Post suggestions below community [/quote] Are they really returning users? It seems to me that an automatic hunting program or gamemaster creates a new account of people who are suspended from their activities because they believe it is illegal in the game, or accesses unused characters. I'm sorry but I don't think there are any beginners and returning users on this server. I think I'm saying this because I want to avoid attacks in the game because everyone is either cheating on me or cheating on me or new to me. Look right now. Look at the FATE Guild people who are returning users or new users. They hunt with automatic hunting programs, and I suspect that raising production skills also turns to programs. I just hope my doubts are 100% wrong. Suspected video address of automatic hunting program 1. https://youtu.be/xvHGA1h8gLI 2. https://youtu.be/dfJldFqjuU8[/quote]
"OPENTHEDOOR"Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you.

Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway.

The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap.
Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are.
Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season.

There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well.


100% what needed to happen if anyone wanted to play this game in the future. I've mentioned this in the past and its been completely rejected by Dan/ Fin and the people left who play the server. How has that worked out for you all? Dan is completely absent and Fin has clearly lost interest and just plans to keep drip feeding whatever is left of this game because he has no plans to do anything what would make the most sense. Could be because he is too busy, or he has lost interest and see's what is left as a waste of his own time.

Its a dream that wont come true even though it makes the most sense. MU private servers / Legend Of Mir private servers (LOMCN) / Ragnarök Online private servers have shown this is a successful model for making people not only continue coming back but actually keep playing. Anyone that doesn't think this is true then go and look for yourself, its a fact. In other MMORPGS there private server communities are thriving simply because there is always new servers that come along every single year. And yes a lot of them are as old as Soma. I shouldn't even have to be saying this, everyone who is in the private MMORPG scene knows this.

And KIM is right, anyone that does or has wanted to check out the server again has quickly stopped playing. Its just not worth anyone's time unless you are already capped with BIS % gains and you have botted your way to max craft / open world farm whilst utilising afk heal for INT gains just so you can spit and shit on people in PVP.

Anyone that is still playing this game plans to take it to its grave, and that's something the rest us that come back to this website hoping for a nostalgia trip have to witness and swallow.
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[quote="PEE"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Start by lowering your expectations. Finito has logged in twice all year, missed Easter and Halloween event which is just a button click. So to think he is going to revamp a level increase or build a functioning auction house… I don’t know what to tell you. Truth is he can’t do much. Adding new weps or whatever is going to kill the game. Damage is already too high. Double tabs are fucked so you can’t add extra that way like triple or quad tabs. Anything he does add people have 100’s of dias now and can easily SS 1-8 so hsoma is kinda fucked anyway. The only real options are a wipe and go back to 100/110 cap. Or do a side server at 110 cap. Copy loads of quests from the quest file and re-add them with a reward of 1 stat gain str, Dex or int so people can level a char and he doesn’t have to come up with a workaround for how fucked stat % are. Change drop to 10 or 12 x multiplier and wipe all items every 2/3/4 months and call it a season. There is a reason wow has done this and majority of all games have hard or soft wipes/seasons. Realistically anything else won’t do much. And I am being hypocritical because even what I have suggested is prob to much work as well. [/quote] 100% what needed to happen if anyone wanted to play this game in the future. I've mentioned this in the past and its been completely rejected by Dan/ Fin and the people left who play the server. How has that worked out for you all? Dan is completely absent and Fin has clearly lost interest and just plans to keep drip feeding whatever is left of this game because he has no plans to do anything what would make the most sense. Could be because he is too busy, or he has lost interest and see's what is left as a waste of his own time. Its a dream that wont come true even though it makes the most sense. MU private servers / Legend Of Mir private servers (LOMCN) / Ragnarök Online private servers have shown this is a successful model for making people not only continue coming back but actually keep playing. Anyone that doesn't think this is true then go and look for yourself, its a fact. In other MMORPGS there private server communities are thriving simply because there is always new servers that come along every single year. And yes a lot of them are as old as Soma. I shouldn't even have to be saying this, everyone who is in the private MMORPG scene knows this. And KIM is right, anyone that does or has wanted to check out the server again has quickly stopped playing. Its just not worth anyone's time unless you are already capped with BIS % gains and you have botted your way to max craft / open world farm whilst utilising afk heal for INT gains just so you can spit and shit on people in PVP. Anyone that is still playing this game plans to take it to its grave, and that's something the rest us that come back to this website hoping for a nostalgia trip have to witness and swallow. [/quote]

 

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