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[quote="STYLE"]Tolic, An aura attack from a melee weapon, like 4th bow does 24 damage to gorshak. Knuckle and spear aura's are also very effective. It's poppycock int is better. Most of my boss kills are a lucky timed 4th bow. You are raiding on conti, the % is fucked for raiding. Nobody does very well. Stop using raiding as a basis for class balance. I can guarantee a 4th bow or a 5th sword from someone who has capped str will fuck people up as much or more so than int does. [/quote]

[quote="HURRICANE"][quote="STYLE"]Tolic, An aura attack from a melee weapon, like 4th bow does 24 damage to gorshak. Knuckle and spear aura's are also very effective. It's poppycock int is better. Most of my boss kills are a lucky timed 4th bow. [/quote] And in that regen time for 4th bow you have done over 30fireballs with weaken which is 60damage for a mage, which therefore gives a mage more of a chance for drop..[/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]you cant play this game without the md to combat a mage in the same way you cant play a mage without the evasion to cast. There has to be a balance which I genuinely believe swings towards warrior. [not refering to Tolic directly here] You cant ignore int and expect to claim it's ridic OP. 2 melee based capped chars in equal gear when dualing will finish faster than 2 mage chars in md gear dualing one another as mage damage is not high in the correct gear. eg. Tolic does considerable damage to me despite being only around 5str less. However I was wearing ma gear and should expect as much...[/quote]

[quote="STYLE"]Hurri I think all gorshak kills have been melee. Explain. [/quote]

[quote="IPHIOS"]Never had one Gorshak kill as I dont have attacking melee aura yet :([/quote]

[quote="LUPISCUS"]Seems the raid % is what the main problem is.. human vs human mage/mele seems fairly well balanced. The main problem with the cont is the loss of items if we die. Upgrade stuff costs us gazillions and we dont wana lose it..so we either dont go to the cont..or we wear cheap gears. For a RvR game, we dont have much incentive to go raiding. maybe lose the % advantage ..and no item losses.. maybe make some way of exchanging pos for items...tho that would be just abused.... oh well.... must be somethin that can be done to make the cont a more attractive place to visit than it currently is?[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"][quote="STYLE"]Tolic, An aura attack from a melee weapon, like 4th bow does 24 damage to gorshak. Knuckle and spear aura's are also very effective. It's poppycock int is better. Most of my boss kills are a lucky timed 4th bow. You are raiding on conti, the % is fucked for raiding. Nobody does very well. Stop using raiding as a basis for class balance. I can guarantee a 4th bow or a 5th sword from someone who has capped str will fuck people up as much or more so than int does. [/quote] every realistic person at gorshak uses an -m tag weapon + fireball/light arrow etc for that extra 4th dmg and a constant 2 dmg hit with int. if I stood there with bow using melee I would do 24 dmg every 30 secs with 4th then the odd 1 dmg when I actually land a hit? which is rougly 4/10 I don't know were you get every last hit has been melee when ive seen a lot of nub chars getting last hit using fireball, the majority of kills have been from int and the lucky 4th with an -m tag, its not been from a solid melee hit I do agree the raiding % is messed up when trying to melee a devil, you say nobody does well with the current %? ive seen the likes of quimm/lafite/ceo_008 doing quite well on their conti runs landing kills using int. which shows ints the better route to take it comes to my point of why would you choose str over int, when int seems to be the clear choice when it comes to vs devils/bosses/gvw[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"]I think with evasion/acc 2 caped melee chars would take longer in a duel than 2 caped mages in md gear you cant base anything off the duration of a duel really[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"]double posted -.- [/quote]

[quote="STYLE"]Yoshi killed shak 2-3 times with knuckle. I got my kills with bow. Seen plenty of others kill with an attack aura as well, CEO does really well with gore lancet. Quimm lafite and CEO are inting low level devs. If you found a devil Mage of the same level you would rape him. It's all about opposites. I thought that would be obvious? Go hit Lazarus or sorcerer and tell me you don't hurt them....[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"][quote="STYLE"]Yoshi killed shak 2-3 times with knuckle. I got my kills with bow. Seen plenty of others kill with an attack aura as well, CEO does really well with gore lancet. Quimm lafite and CEO are inting low level devs. If you found a devil Mage of the same level you would rape him. It's all about opposites. I thought that would be obvious? Go hit Lazarus or sorcerer and tell me you don't hurt them....[/quote] so a melee gets to kill 2 mages from the entire dsoma population? (going from what I see attend wotw and hunt in conti) goes on my point of what are the benefits of being a high str char? doesn't seem to be any yet mage chars seem to get all the benefits of all aspects [/quote]

[quote="STYLE"]You can't blame hsoma class balance for nobody playing a dsoma Mage! [/quote]

[quote="PROMETHEUS"]Try being a devil on hsoma conti, yes we do get kills thats because humans are retarded how they die 1v1 is unknown to me, our dmg is shit. Zombie is the only reason i can kill any1 that hunts anything above bone golem.[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"][quote="STYLE"]You can't blame hsoma class balance for nobody playing a dsoma Mage! [/quote] so then whats the point of being a melee char on hsoma?[/quote]

[quote="RAVER"][quote="TOLIC"][quote="STYLE"]You can't blame hsoma class balance for nobody playing a dsoma Mage! [/quote] so then whats the point of being a melee char on hsoma?[/quote] go make a pure mage on hsoma, then you will answer your own question.[/quote]