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Pocket Healers

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are these allowed?

cant hunt wbm without a healer or a free pot shop

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[quote="EVIL_JR"]are these allowed? cant hunt wbm without a healer or a free pot shop [/quote]
Yes and No.

You are allowed them providing they are used from a different device.

Every man and his dog, most notably at bosses still just multiboxes though.

It's a bad/unfair change with the advantage everyone has had from the past year using it, and I know the first time I was to do it no doubt i'd get banned for it.

It's in the T & C's under client modification. ( crt alt del ) being the modification in this case.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Yes and No. You are allowed them providing they are used from a different device. Every man and his dog, most notably at bosses still just multiboxes though. It's a bad/unfair change with the advantage everyone has had from the past year using it, and I know the first time I was to do it no doubt i'd get banned for it. It's in the T & C's under client modification. ( crt alt del ) being the modification in this case. [/quote]
I think it's simple,

If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs.

Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered?

In my eyes it's simple....
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[quote="BASIL"]I think it's simple, If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs. Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered? In my eyes it's simple....[/quote]
Pocket healers are allowed by way of a precedent being set of every man and his dog doing it. Nothing has changed afaik.
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[quote="DOWNER"]Pocket healers are allowed by way of a precedent being set of every man and his dog doing it. Nothing has changed afaik. [/quote]
"BASIL"I think it's simple,

If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs.

Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered?

In my eyes it's simple....


No thats total and utter bs. I've used a healer from 84 str at blg till around 105, giving me much better gains than anyone else who was hunting alternative monsters. Why should others be put to a disadvantage? Anyone can use a pocket healer, it doesn't take a genius to make a healer character to heal on and it's common knowledge (Also in my manual :D) how to open a 2nd client and make a new soma folder so you don't bug. I don't even see why this is a problem?
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="BASIL"]I think it's simple, If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs. Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered? In my eyes it's simple....[/quote] No thats total and utter bs. I've used a healer from 84 str at blg till around 105, giving me much better gains than anyone else who was hunting alternative monsters. Why should others be put to a disadvantage? Anyone can use a pocket healer, it doesn't take a genius to make a healer character to heal on and it's common knowledge (Also in my manual :D) how to open a 2nd client and make a new soma folder so you don't bug. I don't even see why this is a problem?[/quote]
i wanted to level without using a healer but since df wont give decent stats soon im gunna have to use a healer at blg (something i hate) but if i dont do it i cant carry on with dex without burning thru my barr for pots lol.

the next mob up for me is apus but with the spawn of those id still need a healer or id get 0.50% per trip and spend a fortune in pots unless i healed after each. an idea was suggested to make shanis useful again but that wont happen since people just say "if there wasnt a cap it wouldnt matter" but people still wouldnt hunt them because there are alternatives that give better stats per %.

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[quote="MIKEYYB93"]i wanted to level without using a healer but since df wont give decent stats soon im gunna have to use a healer at blg (something i hate) but if i dont do it i cant carry on with dex without burning thru my barr for pots lol. the next mob up for me is apus but with the spawn of those id still need a healer or id get 0.50% per trip and spend a fortune in pots unless i healed after each. an idea was suggested to make shanis useful again but that wont happen since people just say "if there wasnt a cap it wouldnt matter" but people still wouldnt hunt them because there are alternatives that give better stats per %. [/quote]
"YOSHIMITSU"
"BASIL"I think it's simple,

If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs.

Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered?

In my eyes it's simple....


No thats total and utter bs. I've used a healer from 84 str at blg till around 105, giving me much better gains than anyone else who was hunting alternative monsters. Why should others be put to a disadvantage? Anyone can use a pocket healer, it doesn't take a genius to make a healer character to heal on and it's common knowledge (Also in my manual :D) how to open a 2nd client and make a new soma folder so you don't bug. I don't even see why this is a problem?


Was on my phone trying to keep it simple....

Why should others be put to a disadvantage? I'm sure at the start on test server you was able to open multiple windows, as time went on Finito added a program to stop people being able to do this. So in theory you are modding the client to gain a advantage that isn't common Knowledge to everybody, (unless they have your manual).

"IF" this is the case and you're not allowed pocket healers then Isylver needs to look into maybe adding monsters to fill that gap to make it easier for people to hunt. or lower the attack on existing monsters.

I'm trying to look at it from both points of views and i think both are correct, but the main problem is if its a problem that monsters hit too hard or lower monsters dont give the gains.

Isylvers needs to either put a statement saying no pocket healers but we've added new monsters to help out OR pocket healers are banned you need to find a alternative to hunting.

And tbh yoshi why should I have a disadvantage to not having enough money to pay for a pilot ? why should i be disadvantage cause i don't have resources to create crafting macros?
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[quote="BASIL"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="BASIL"]I think it's simple, If you're hunting mobs that require you to be healed, you're hunting the wrong mobs go back and try again when you can hunt these mobs. Or if these mobs are the only one to give you stats and are hurting too much their attack damage should be lowered? In my eyes it's simple....[/quote] No thats total and utter bs. I've used a healer from 84 str at blg till around 105, giving me much better gains than anyone else who was hunting alternative monsters. Why should others be put to a disadvantage? Anyone can use a pocket healer, it doesn't take a genius to make a healer character to heal on and it's common knowledge (Also in my manual :D) how to open a 2nd client and make a new soma folder so you don't bug. I don't even see why this is a problem?[/quote] Was on my phone trying to keep it simple.... Why should others be put to a disadvantage? I'm sure at the start on test server you was able to open multiple windows, as time went on Finito added a program to stop people being able to do this. So in theory you are modding the client to gain a advantage that isn't common Knowledge to everybody, (unless they have your manual). "IF" this is the case and you're not allowed pocket healers then Isylver needs to look into maybe adding monsters to fill that gap to make it easier for people to hunt. or lower the attack on existing monsters. I'm trying to look at it from both points of views and i think both are correct, but the main problem is if its a problem that monsters hit too hard or lower monsters dont give the gains. Isylvers needs to either put a statement saying no pocket healers but we've added new monsters to help out OR pocket healers are banned you need to find a alternative to hunting. And tbh yoshi why should I have a disadvantage to not having enough money to pay for a pilot ? why should i be disadvantage cause i don't have resources to create crafting macros?[/quote]
Maybe you should hunt a mob your own level? Don't hunt a mob that's too strong for you then moan?
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[quote="HRTHTHTH"]Maybe you should hunt a mob your own level? Don't hunt a mob that's too strong for you then moan?[/quote]
Just looks like another thing to cry about IMO
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[quote="INTHEFACE"]Just looks like another thing to cry about IMO [/quote]
"BASIL"


Isylvers needs to either put a statement saying no pocket healers but we've added new monsters to help out OR pocket healers are banned you need to find a alternative to hunting.


The banning of pocket healers cannot happen. You are penalising all the casual players who are yet to benefit from the 90 - 140 str bracket at BLG's. This cannot be done without a healer and will have a massive impact on your stats at endgame.

It's not like an alternative mob is available.

It would penalise the casuals and benefit the people who have rushed through the levels.
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[quote="CYROX"][quote="BASIL"] Isylvers needs to either put a statement saying no pocket healers but we've added new monsters to help out OR pocket healers are banned you need to find a alternative to hunting. [/quote] The banning of pocket healers cannot happen. You are penalising all the casual players who are yet to benefit from the 90 - 140 str bracket at BLG's. This cannot be done without a healer and will have a massive impact on your stats at endgame. It's not like an alternative mob is available. It would penalise the casuals and benefit the people who have rushed through the levels. [/quote]
It makes no difference to me at all anymore as i'm beyond using a healer. This would cripple any character pre 90 strength into gains that would be horrific in comparison to myself. Having a pocket healer gains no advantage over anyone else as it's not game breaking and people have used it for over a year. Why stop it now?
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]It makes no difference to me at all anymore as i'm beyond using a healer. This would cripple any character pre 90 strength into gains that would be horrific in comparison to myself. Having a pocket healer gains no advantage over anyone else as it's not game breaking and people have used it for over a year. Why stop it now?[/quote]
This like numerous other issues needs a black and white set of rules.

The grey area is far to big over a number of issues.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]This like numerous other issues needs a black and white set of rules. The grey area is far to big over a number of issues.[/quote]
Rofl this must be a misunderstanding.. There's no way this can banned, but in the event it is.. Usual sad twats, don't waste your time trying to get me banned.. I'll own up right here. I use a pocket healer and will continue to do so.
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[quote="BRAINDATA"]Rofl this must be a misunderstanding.. There's no way this can banned, but in the event it is.. Usual sad twats, don't waste your time trying to get me banned.. I'll own up right here. I use a pocket healer and will continue to do so.[/quote]
I've started to use a pocket healer as I don't play much and want to get as much hunting as possible without going to town for pots.

I do use a pc and laptop at same time and only healer when need to instead of wasting mp
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[quote="RAVER"]I've started to use a pocket healer as I don't play much and want to get as much hunting as possible without going to town for pots. I do use a pc and laptop at same time and only healer when need to instead of wasting mp[/quote]
If someone uses a pocket healer who cares, if you don't want to use a pocket healer who cares. It's not effecting you so go on about your business tbh.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]If someone uses a pocket healer who cares, if you don't want to use a pocket healer who cares. It's not effecting you so go on about your business tbh.[/quote]

 

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