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Wotw 27/01/15

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You all making it sound complicated, as if there's this magic reason people don't want to go to wotw.

It's simple...

Conti is not desirable for all level groups, especially the highest.

How to fix it? Well for both races you would simply put the top end monsters for each race on the map, give them higher droprates and more importantly, give them items that are otherwise only obtainable from bosses.

Lastly, drop the HP of every monster in conti so that hunting there is faster for leveling than anywhere else (alternatively, give the holders of conti an extra 10% when they're hunting on the map).

This will solve every single damn issue with the map and I guarantee you, you'll see massive turnouts from both races every single war.

At present, the only thing a devil will want conti for, is killing Kharil Lizards and they are for mid 60~70 devils as their droprate is significantly higher than their IC counterpart.

Humans don't want to hunt on conti at BLG because of Elite Lizardmen, their drops are not noticeably better than non-conti, yet the risk of hunting there is higher.

Nightmares are are good reason for humans to hunt on Conti, but evidently as they are, they're not enough to mobilise the whole of Hsoma to fight for it.

Surely in a competition, the factor that pushes the sides to compete is the reward itself?
Conti has needed a massive overhaul since Esoma.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]You all making it sound complicated, as if there's this magic reason people don't want to go to wotw. It's simple... Conti is not desirable for all level groups, especially the highest. How to fix it? Well for both races you would simply put the top end monsters for each race on the map, give them higher droprates and more importantly, give them items that are otherwise only obtainable from bosses. Lastly, drop the HP of every monster in conti so that hunting there is faster for leveling than anywhere else (alternatively, give the holders of conti an extra 10% when they're hunting on the map). This will solve every single damn issue with the map and I guarantee you, you'll see massive turnouts from both races every single war. At present, the only thing a devil will want conti for, is killing Kharil Lizards and they are for mid 60~70 devils as their droprate is significantly higher than their IC counterpart. Humans don't want to hunt on conti at BLG because of Elite Lizardmen, their drops are not noticeably better than non-conti, yet the risk of hunting there is higher. Nightmares are are good reason for humans to hunt on Conti, but evidently as they are, they're not enough to mobilise the whole of Hsoma to fight for it. Surely in a competition, the factor that pushes the sides to compete is the reward itself? Conti has needed a massive overhaul since Esoma.[/quote]
What s0rc said x1000
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[quote="NOTMAT"]What s0rc said x1000[/quote]
Some good ideas from S0rc.

Also, any chance during WoW when you warp to a random spot, the possible area could be made a bit smaller? It's incredibly annoying to warp in and be put a mile away from the action.
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[quote="SATAN2"]Some good ideas from S0rc. Also, any chance during WoW when you warp to a random spot, the possible area could be made a bit smaller? It's incredibly annoying to warp in and be put a mile away from the action.[/quote]
Tbh i think the tp zone near throne, warp lady and warehouse, maybe the gate would be nice somewhat random places, nothing more annoying getting tpd to the outter wall forcing you to rewarp again. Sorry face for the derail ;( I'll try getting some footage too on the more busier days ;p
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[quote="LAZARUS"]Tbh i think the tp zone near throne, warp lady and warehouse, maybe the gate would be nice somewhat random places, nothing more annoying getting tpd to the outter wall forcing you to rewarp again. Sorry face for the derail ;( I'll try getting some footage too on the more busier days ;p[/quote]
s0rcs always right fs

at current wbm in conti are crap! they just dont drop anythinggg!
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[quote="EVIL_JR"]s0rcs always right fs at current wbm in conti are crap! they just dont drop anythinggg![/quote]
Slightly off topic, do devils not also want conti for EB's?
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[quote="SATAN2"]Slightly off topic, do devils not also want conti for EB's?[/quote]
"SATAN2"Slightly off topic, do devils not also want conti for EB's?


The low levels do, but as time has gone on most are passed them now.
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[quote="NOTMAT"][quote="SATAN2"]Slightly off topic, do devils not also want conti for EB's?[/quote] The low levels do, but as time has gone on most are passed them now. [/quote]
Don't add upgrades to pos shop. Add failers like drugs, blue pills etc as they're in such high demand and if they're reasonably priced people will take full advantage
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]Don't add upgrades to pos shop. Add failers like drugs, blue pills etc as they're in such high demand and if they're reasonably priced people will take full advantage [/quote]
Remove Zombie from Conti would help no end human side.

People dont turn up because they don't want other rivals to get zombie.
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[quote="STYLE"]Remove Zombie from Conti would help no end human side. People dont turn up because they don't want other rivals to get zombie. [/quote]
If the changes I mentioned are implemented, people will turn up regardless of having rivalries, as the map will benefit every person.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]If the changes I mentioned are implemented, people will turn up regardless of having rivalries, as the map will benefit every person.[/quote]
What was humans excuse before zombie?

And whats humans excuse for SS?

Even if just the capped humans turned up you could of out numbered the devils
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[quote="EVIL_JR"]What was humans excuse before zombie? And whats humans excuse for SS? Even if just the capped humans turned up you could of out numbered the devils [/quote]
It has always been the same problem. Conti just isn't desirable for either race. Make it a map that if you had possession of it you would almost certainly hunt on it. Atm I would say about 10% of either race actually WANT conti. The rest just turn up for the pvp.
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[quote="CYROX"]It has always been the same problem. Conti just isn't desirable for either race. Make it a map that if you had possession of it you would almost certainly hunt on it. Atm I would say about 10% of either race actually WANT conti. The rest just turn up for the pvp. [/quote]
conti for humans = NM eyes
conti for devs = stop humans getting NM eyes

sometimes andro spawns too
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[quote="THEWATCHER"]conti for humans = NM eyes conti for devs = stop humans getting NM eyes sometimes andro spawns too[/quote]
Hsoma has always been pretty pathetic.

At the moment you have FT and NM then seemingly arca/BK seem pretty inactive right now.

My view on SS is because bosses are a PK free for all, unless your guild is high in numbers you won't get a chance. So if a few FT on and lots of NM FT won't help and vice versa, this nobody wins.

We are seeing the side affects of this at GVW's now, and have done for some time at WotW.

You can make a perfect event/system as I think they are now. But you cannot factor that petulance and rivalry into it.
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[quote="STYLE"]Hsoma has always been pretty pathetic. At the moment you have FT and NM then seemingly arca/BK seem pretty inactive right now. My view on SS is because bosses are a PK free for all, unless your guild is high in numbers you won't get a chance. So if a few FT on and lots of NM FT won't help and vice versa, this nobody wins. We are seeing the side affects of this at GVW's now, and have done for some time at WotW. You can make a perfect event/system as I think they are now. But you cannot factor that petulance and rivalry into it.[/quote]
Make SS disable pk for an hour or two when the bosses spawn, surely it'd help a bit? And add zombie npc to Tyt/Pandi but make it need 2~5 mill as well muwhhaha :P
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[quote="LAZARUS"]Make SS disable pk for an hour or two when the bosses spawn, surely it'd help a bit? And add zombie npc to Tyt/Pandi but make it need 2~5 mill as well muwhhaha :P[/quote]

 

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