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[quote="XAZ"]So since I started (2 days ago..) I've noticed a high amount of archers and axers, not so much any other classes; a few knuckles. Is there a reason for this? I know most servers archers dominate - that's the way it has always been mind. However, as I'm a spearer, am I shooting myself in the foot straight off the bat, to even contend in PVP at a higher level? I haven't seen a great deal of spearers, anyone got any input about the class? Thanks guys :) [/quote]

[quote="KAIDONE"]Archers were the most dominant, however they suffer the most nowerdays (imo) only reason so many is because they used to be the best, axe ends up with insane str but low hit rate vs the dexier classes, I think spear is under used due to no shield/dodge however at high lvl they will find it easier to hunt wbm than other classes with 5th.... no spear user has got quite there yet but imo they will be one of the best classes pvp side due to having insane str + 2nd aura. I'm pretty sure archers were hit harder than any one in 'nerfs' which was needed. I may be wrong and one of the more wiser devils will come and fix my input but that's how I see dsoma ;p[/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]Dex carries in this game in both pvp and general leveling, archers aren't that great end game because they are poor damage. [/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"]I would say spear has more (solo) PvP potential than axe due to 2nd spear combined with the high STR gains we see nowadays. I'm also biased as it's my favorite class that I'd play. That being said goal is always to find a good balance.[/quote]

[quote="CEO_008"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]I'm also biased as it's my favorite class that I'd play. [/quote] CEO likes this.[/quote]

[quote="STRIKE"]With knuckle you won't be relevant to anything pvp wise until at least 85+ maybe higher these days. Think the highest lol spear on Dsoma is jaheira so she's the best to seek advice from [/quote]

[quote="XAZ"]Thanks very much for the hasty replies all. I'm definitely going to stick it out. Where are all these nerfs you speak of? Or patch notes if they exist? :) Thanks guys![/quote]

[quote="KAIDONE"]It wasn't nerfs exactly it was more like boosts to other classes, like adding new monsters making the str cap higher so archers don't reach the str axers, spears, swords ect can reach, they also changed str to be the main def stat instead of con which archers usually had more of :)[/quote]

[quote="XAZ"]Ah ok, I see. That makes a lot of sense now actually. Thanks bud.[/quote]

[quote="EVIL_JR"]Id love to swap class lol! 2000hours punching from level 90 or have 100str less than an axer![/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Then they changed minimum damage against players from 1dmg to 6-12 which makes dex classes win even against axers that have 50+str more than archers/knucklers. Bring back 1min dmg!![/quote]

[quote="TED"]They also changed CON / STR in that con is now a useless stat and str acts as both AT and DF...I think this nerfed archers too far (as their con is also much higher than their str) and will cost player count in the long run. I agree that the other classes needed a boost but archers got double fucked and now it's a pointless class to play if you want to have a chance at PVP at the same level. Will there be any changes to archers when cap is raised? if not why would an archer bother to level for 3 str per level and no other stat gains? (unless they spend 6 weeks per level punching). Spear is a nice class, stick it out and you won't regret it! If I were to play Dsoma again I would either go spear or knuckle. [/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Archers still dominate vs every class. The only one they lack against is axe because they just don't hurt at all. But that's their only weakness if you could call it that.[/quote]

[quote="EVIL_JR"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Archers still dominate vs every class. The only one they lack against is axe because they just don't hurt at all. But that's their only weakness if you could call it that.[/quote] and 3 hit against sword... probly hit and 2nd against spear.. [quote="TED"]They also changed CON / STR in that con is now a useless stat and str acts as both AT and DF...I think this nerfed archers too far (as their con is also much higher than their str) and will cost player count in the long run. I agree that the other classes needed a boost but archers got double fucked and now it's a pointless class to play if you want to have a chance at PVP at the same level. Will there be any changes to archers when cap is raised? if not why would an archer bother to level for 3 str per level and no other stat gains? (unless they spend 6 weeks per level punching). Spear is a nice class, stick it out and you won't regret it! If I were to play Dsoma again I would either go spear or knuckle. [/quote] Con should be brought back as attack.... axe would probly 4 hit instead of 3 it would boost the attack on bow slightly and leave axers etc with there high defense![/quote]

[quote="MANTICORE"]con can be brought back as an attack will help archers with their weak dmg to balance out since upgrades came in to play at dsoma[/quote]