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One of our goals is to fix this before the lvl cap is raised. If we can't fix it before that we will use the lvl cap raise to try and fix it.

Having Con as attack does work better actually, and would give incentive for archers to level again (without punching being a necessity).

Good thinking Evil.

Would just bring it back to square 1.
Archers being the god class without a weakness.

"PATHOLOGIST"Would just bring it back to square 1.
Archers being the god class without a weakness.

Hardly, you keep ignoring the fact that all strength based classes have new mobs to continue smashing their ways to dizzy heights strength wise.

Which is what they are meant to excel in.
They cannot get near 200 dex so why should archers have even remotely similar damage.

Firstly, who is to say they (axers/sword/spear) were originally intended to ever be able to attain such great str disparity?

Secondly, archers were intended to excel in CON as well.

Thirdly, no point having capped dex when you do min damage and take massive damage when hit, do also remember archers lost 3% on dodge as well. What was ever done about the HP gains that Isy intended to come from CON?

There's a lot of talk of archers dealing minimum damage so what I want to know is who are these archers doing minimum damage and who are they doing minimum damage to?

I'd like some names because I recently tested with Prometheus yet again and his damage was far from minimum in fact he took half my hp in seconds. Bare in mind to my knowledge I'm still the only level 100 swordsman on the server.

I'd really rather just see punching gone from dsoma. We pick one class from birth for a reason. to play tht one weop to cap. spending more game time but less % punching is bs i hate it and it makes me not want to play

The need for punching should be removed. The reason I won't play devil soma

you don't really need to punch, even as archer you could still cap with close to 200 str and if you have decent gear then the 15 str you would gain from spending months punching isn't even noticeable,

but punching for int yes, cant have everything on a plate i think it should stay like that.

Punching is op the gains obtainable from punching is ridiculous, if wbm didn't have magic I think we would of learnt the amazing stats that can be gained. I don't think for one second any class should gain 10+int in one level not even if it takes you 300hours. Gms might of left it to late to act.

You dont get 10 int every level basil!

My int gain is same as str gains and dex is half str gains

And punching in spear / axe lowers str gains

How have you got 150int??

he doesn't lol stop jumping ahead of your self, the best gains i've had whilst punching is 5.7 str so thats 5.7 int aswell, so lets say 5 str on average 10 lvls punching thats 50 int to gain. dont hate on people punching it takes alot of effort to do it.

Basil don't you just get to level 60 on a character then start again because you get bored? You are clueless.