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BASIL |
Clueless lol?? Either some one is bullshitting or yes I'm clueless.
Nomat you clearly not got a clue mate. |
#31 2015/05/05 21:31:10 |
EVIL_JR |
i aint got 150 int,
and int gains are same as str gains... usually around 5 per level... |
#32 2015/05/05 21:34:57 |
WAGAWAGA |
Evil check ur str/con man if u want con=atk!!! 10 atk more wont do nothing better wear ring atk then!!!!
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#33 2015/05/06 22:33:51 |
EVIL_JR |
"WAGAWAGA"Evil check ur str/con man if u want con=atk!!! 10 atk more wont do nothing better wear ring atk then!!!! im not botherd much tbh lol lost interest in archer! but if we hadnt punched con would be more.. and it would lower the damage taken from other class's as they have less con than str Think its too late for any change tbh! all this should of been done in test server. changing con to attack would make hunting for axers so slow its untrue and coming up with a solution to this problem and implementing it would take too much time for finito to be able to do! id vote to leave it and sort a farming mob out for dsoma instead.. Like a new Elite guard spawn on conti dropping like 2k barr 0 exp upgrades weapons armour and gems or soon the biggest majority of the dsoma usercount is in there 90's and once level cap there is NOTHING to do lol
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[quote="EVIL_JR"][quote="WAGAWAGA"]Evil check ur str/con man if u want con=atk!!! 10 atk more wont do nothing better wear ring atk then!!!! [/quote]
im not botherd much tbh lol lost interest in archer!
but if we hadnt punched con would be more..
and it would lower the damage taken from other class's as they have less con than str
Think its too late for any change tbh!
all this should of been done in test server.
changing con to attack would make hunting for axers so slow its untrue
and coming up with a solution to this problem and implementing it would take too much time for finito to be able to do!
id vote to leave it and sort a farming mob out for dsoma instead..
Like a new Elite guard spawn on conti dropping like 2k barr 0 exp upgrades weapons armour and gems or soon the biggest majority of the dsoma usercount is in there 90's and once level cap there is NOTHING to do lol[/quote]
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#34 2015/05/07 00:16:13 |
MANTICORE |
both sides trolling eachother right? cause ur arguments doesnt make sense at all.
Archer Side: We want 5 more attack Rest: No your God Mode days is over.. Archers are fine no need to change anything .... There are actually 2 ways to lvl up one. 1st Way cap with max 205str* using bow 2) 2nd way punch 3k+ hours to gain 215str Since upgrades come in to play a Deva Pill set equals with 15str.
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[quote="MANTICORE"]both sides trolling eachother right? cause ur arguments doesnt make sense at all.
Archer Side: We want 5 more attack
Rest: No your God Mode days is over..
Archers are fine no need to change anything ....
There are actually 2 ways to lvl up one.
1st Way cap with max 205str* using bow
2) 2nd way punch 3k+ hours to gain 215str
Since upgrades come in to play a Deva Pill set equals with 15str.[/quote]
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#35 2015/05/07 10:51:09 |
BASIL |
Archers own until level 90 then fade out I guess, if needed why don't Fin just up archers str in db wouldn't be too hard to fix then sort out higher str gains for new archers, but then give axers more dex??
Unless it's suppose to be like this, without a gm stating archers shouldn't hurt axers and axers shouldn't hit archers we're pulling at strings...
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[quote="BASIL"]Archers own until level 90 then fade out I guess, if needed why don't Fin just up archers str in db wouldn't be too hard to fix then sort out higher str gains for new archers, but then give axers more dex??
Unless it's suppose to be like this, without a gm stating archers shouldn't hurt axers and axers shouldn't hit archers we're pulling at strings...
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#36 2015/05/07 11:03:34 |
GHOSTLORD |
"BASIL"Archers own until level 90 then fade out I guess, if needed why don't Fin just up archers str in db wouldn't be too hard to fix then sort out higher str gains for new archers, but then give axers more dex?? We cannot recalculate DSoma stats.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BASIL"]Archers own until level 90 then fade out I guess, if needed why don't Fin just up archers str in db wouldn't be too hard to fix then sort out higher str gains for new archers, but then give axers more dex??
Unless it's suppose to be like this, without a gm stating archers shouldn't hurt axers and axers shouldn't hit archers we're pulling at strings...
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We cannot recalculate DSoma stats.[/quote]
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#37 2015/05/07 11:23:04 |
MANTICORE |
how archers own untill lvl90 care to elaborate? cause they are the slowest class in terms of str gains we not even getting 104str before lvl70,range doesnt make much diff lol
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#38 2015/05/07 11:25:24 |
THEMAT |
"MANTICORE"range doesnt make much diff lol |
#39 2015/05/07 11:31:32 |
WAGAWAGA |
Manticore if u using bow u ill done with less then 200str:) lvlur own acrher to lvl 90 then give us advice here plzzz
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#40 2015/05/07 12:29:38 |
TED |
Pure archer would cap with about 195 str. no more...that's another factor that other classes are often forgetting, that all the top level archers have all spent many many thousands more hours getting the stats they have...
lets see what damage an archer with 195 str does to a capped sword/spear/axer (ghost I encourage you to test this, you can use ryus stats for this (he has 190 str but lets say you could gain 5 more hunting more optimally)).
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[quote="TED"]Pure archer would cap with about 195 str. no more...that's another factor that other classes are often forgetting, that all the top level archers have all spent many many thousands more hours getting the stats they have...
lets see what damage an archer with 195 str does to a capped sword/spear/axer (ghost I encourage you to test this, you can use ryus stats for this (he has 190 str but lets say you could gain 5 more hunting more optimally)).[/quote]
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#41 2015/05/07 12:55:41 |
S0RCERER |
Beggars belief, people are saying archers are bad!
That and that leveling an Archer is slow! Because your str gains are the slowest you have the privilege of leveling on WBM which means your leveling is quicker than all classes bar knuckle. In all PvP encounters be it RvR or not, Archers are still the dominant class. There is no attribute as good as extra range, even then Dex is a close second. What has even brought up this silly debate anyway? Who do archers feel they are having a hard time against?
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Beggars belief, people are saying archers are bad!
That and that leveling an Archer is slow!
Because your str gains are the slowest you have the privilege of leveling on WBM which means your leveling is quicker than all classes bar knuckle.
In all PvP encounters be it RvR or not, Archers are still the dominant class.
There is no attribute as good as extra range, even then Dex is a close second.
What has even brought up this silly debate anyway?
Who do archers feel they are having a hard time against?[/quote]
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#42 2015/05/07 13:31:05 |
PATHOLOGIST |
"TED"Pure archer would cap with about 195 str. no more...that's another factor that other classes are often forgetting, that all the top level archers have all spent many many thousands more hours getting the stats they have... I still don't understand... Why are you dodging ; "CARNAGE"There's a lot of talk of archers dealing minimum damage so what I want to know is who are these archers doing minimum damage and who are they doing minimum damage to? Here is a lvl 100swordsman who has tested numerous times. Please name the characters that archers do min dmg to. Also please state how much evasion and hit rate you have against alllllll of those (make-believe) characters. Why is dex completely ignored in every pro-archer comment?
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="TED"]Pure archer would cap with about 195 str. no more...that's another factor that other classes are often forgetting, that all the top level archers have all spent many many thousands more hours getting the stats they have...
lets see what damage an archer with 195 str does to a capped sword/spear/axer (ghost I encourage you to test this, you can use ryus stats for this (he has 190 str but lets say you could gain 5 more hunting more optimally)).[/quote]
I still don't understand...
Why are you dodging ;
[quote="CARNAGE"]There's a lot of talk of archers dealing minimum damage so what I want to know is who are these archers doing minimum damage and who are they doing minimum damage to?
I'd like some names because I recently tested with Prometheus yet again and his damage was far from minimum in fact he took half my hp in seconds. Bare in mind to my knowledge I'm still the only level 100 swordsman on the server. [/quote]
Here is a lvl 100swordsman who has tested numerous times.
Please name the characters that archers do min dmg to.
Also please state how much evasion and hit rate you have against alllllll of those (make-believe) characters.
Why is dex completely ignored in every pro-archer comment? [/quote]
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#43 2015/05/07 14:17:49 |
TITANIA |
I don't have knowledge of the capping with xy str stuff. All i know is i don't want to spend the last 10 levels punching like everyone says you have to cause you have already capped dex by then and need the int/str gains u get from punching to make your char in any way decent. To me that sounds broken
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[quote="TITANIA"]I don't have knowledge of the capping with xy str stuff. All i know is i don't want to spend the last 10 levels punching like everyone says you have to cause you have already capped dex by then and need the int/str gains u get from punching to make your char in any way decent. To me that sounds broken[/quote]
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#44 2015/05/07 14:26:12 |
WAGAWAGA |
Con should be only deff archers dont need more atk
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#45 2015/05/07 14:45:44 |
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