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Anyone else think that bow is just a bit too OP with the fact that the attacks on the weapons are a little too much to their close counter melee partners? I.e. Had an apus drop with 31-44 attack.. even standards are 29-44.. The fact they can hit from almost anywhere on the screen is a bit much and yes I know the counter argument is when they miss it costs durability etc. but seriously compare the attacks to weapons of that skill/requirements etc. its a bit too much.

And for those that they say "Should of picked bow instead of sword", irrelevant as I'll do bow but I'm just saying as a general observation the attacks are a little high considering how versatile they are.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Anyone else think that bow is just a bit too OP with the fact that the attacks on the weapons are a little too much to their close counter melee partners? I.e. Had an apus drop with 31-44 attack.. even standards are 29-44.. The fact they can hit from almost anywhere on the screen is a bit much and yes I know the counter argument is when they miss it costs durability etc. but seriously compare the attacks to weapons of that skill/requirements etc. its a bit too much. And for those that they say "Should of picked bow instead of sword", irrelevant as I'll do bow but I'm just saying as a general observation the attacks are a little high considering how versatile they are.[/quote]
Give a comparison.

Apus with 31-44 vs what exactly?

Knight sword is 1h so you can use shield.

Compare it to its 2h equivalent, no?
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Give a comparison. Apus with 31-44 vs what exactly? Knight sword is 1h so you can use shield. Compare it to its 2h equivalent, no?[/quote]
2h swords need buffing imo
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[quote="BRAINDATA"]2h swords need buffing imo[/quote]
Justify it, post numbers of an untagged Apus, post numbers of an untagged Knight, post numbers of an untagged Ripper.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Justify it, post numbers of an untagged Apus, post numbers of an untagged Knight, post numbers of an untagged Ripper.[/quote]
Bow has always had too much damage imo.

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Apus 26-40
Ripper 25-42

I think.
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[quote="REAPER"]Bow has always had too much damage imo. untagged Apus 26-40 Ripper 25-42 I think.[/quote]
Untagged ruby spear : 28-40
Tagged ruby spear : 33-48
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[quote="TANGOD"]Untagged ruby spear : 28-40 Tagged ruby spear : 33-48 [/quote]
"TANGOD"Untagged ruby spear : 28-40
Tagged ruby spear : 33-48


Which tag is that? There's quite a big difference. :D

As S0rcerer said without comparison we don't know if it's high or low.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TANGOD"]Untagged ruby spear : 28-40 Tagged ruby spear : 33-48 [/quote] Which tag is that? There's quite a big difference. :D As S0rcerer said without comparison we don't know if it's high or low.[/quote]
"GHOSTLORD"
"TANGOD"Untagged ruby spear : 28-40
Tagged ruby spear : 33-48


Which tag is that? There's quite a big difference. :D

As S0rcerer said without comparison we don't know if it's high or low.


Rare :)
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[quote="TANGOD"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TANGOD"]Untagged ruby spear : 28-40 Tagged ruby spear : 33-48 [/quote] Which tag is that? There's quite a big difference. :D As S0rcerer said without comparison we don't know if it's high or low.[/quote] Rare :)[/quote]
Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer.

Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer. Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.[/quote]
"JARAGOONDOO"Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer.

Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.


bit of a contradicting post lol.

Ye bow is strong but always has been i highly doubt it will change just got to adapt your play to what is strong i guess. Least your doing bow now aca :)
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[quote="HORUS"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer. Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.[/quote] bit of a contradicting post lol. Ye bow is strong but always has been i highly doubt it will change just got to adapt your play to what is strong i guess. Least your doing bow now aca :)[/quote]
Yeah true just think we all know how later leveling will turn out and thats a bit of a shame, nigh on everyone in eSoma had to go bow at later level, ok it was to do with evasion sure but bow was THE weapon you sort of HAD to do.

Yeah doing bow now but trust me i'd rather be sticking with pure sword, but its not just viable progression wise, just wanted to get others views on bows as the attack is a bit silly..

To be honest im not sure how the skill attack bonus works, is it the same for all weapons? perhaps bow could be nerfed a bit here if it is? Just a suggestion.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]Yeah true just think we all know how later leveling will turn out and thats a bit of a shame, nigh on everyone in eSoma had to go bow at later level, ok it was to do with evasion sure but bow was THE weapon you sort of HAD to do. Yeah doing bow now but trust me i'd rather be sticking with pure sword, but its not just viable progression wise, just wanted to get others views on bows as the attack is a bit silly.. To be honest im not sure how the skill attack bonus works, is it the same for all weapons? perhaps bow could be nerfed a bit here if it is? Just a suggestion.[/quote]
"ACAELUS"Yeah true just think we all know how later leveling will turn out and thats a bit of a shame, nigh on everyone in eSoma had to go bow at later level, ok it was to do with evasion sure but bow was THE weapon you sort of HAD to do.

Yeah doing bow now but trust me i'd rather be sticking with pure sword, but its not just viable progression wise, just wanted to get others views on bows as the attack is a bit silly..

To be honest im not sure how the skill attack bonus works, is it the same for all weapons? perhaps bow could be nerfed a bit here if it is? Just a suggestion.


I believe you get a bonus every 10 skill or so, for every weapon.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="ACAELUS"]Yeah true just think we all know how later leveling will turn out and thats a bit of a shame, nigh on everyone in eSoma had to go bow at later level, ok it was to do with evasion sure but bow was THE weapon you sort of HAD to do. Yeah doing bow now but trust me i'd rather be sticking with pure sword, but its not just viable progression wise, just wanted to get others views on bows as the attack is a bit silly.. To be honest im not sure how the skill attack bonus works, is it the same for all weapons? perhaps bow could be nerfed a bit here if it is? Just a suggestion.[/quote] I believe you get a bonus every 10 skill or so, for every weapon. [/quote]
It doesn't seem to be every 10 point of skill. There is an equation involved that seems to scale your weapon's min/max attack based on your skill value. The min and max have different scalar values applied (the scale for max being larger). This is just what I assume from my observations, I could be entirely wrong.

I don't know the exact equation. Best way to work it out is to get the STR, skill, weapon damage, and actual damage from multiple people and do trial and error till an equation works with all of them. I'm sure the iSylver or Finito know the exact equation, maybe they'd like to share? :P
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"]It doesn't seem to be every 10 point of skill. There is an equation involved that seems to scale your weapon's min/max attack based on your skill value. The min and max have different scalar values applied (the scale for max being larger). This is just what I assume from my observations, I could be entirely wrong. I don't know the exact equation. Best way to work it out is to get the STR, skill, weapon damage, and actual damage from multiple people and do trial and error till an equation works with all of them. I'm sure the iSylver or Finito know the exact equation, maybe they'd like to share? :P[/quote]
"HORUS"
"JARAGOONDOO"Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer.

Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.


bit of a contradicting post lol.


I fail to see any contradiction.
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[quote="JARAGOONDOO"][quote="HORUS"][quote="JARAGOONDOO"]Bow has always been the strongest PvP weapon. At late-game, it lacks the levelling speed other weapons offer. Early to mid game it is very strong for both hunting and PvP.[/quote] bit of a contradicting post lol. [/quote] I fail to see any contradiction.[/quote]

 

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