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increase in dsoma weap droprates due to upgrade system

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This is by no means intended to be a nasty thread, but through a few observations it is evident there is a problem on dsoma now we have an upgrade system. I would like to think even the haters would support this thread as it contains genuine issues.

historically dsoma droprate was low, it didn't matter because once you found the best weapon it never lost dura and never broke on repair (unless u drop it -.-) even still, you'd be lucky to ever own an intense weapon for your class but this was ok.

fast forward to the dsoma upgrade system and now we have a problem, the lack of epic and intense tag weapons means we have to make a choice; don't upgrade it due to breaking, or risk upgrade for breaking.

I've now broken 3 epic BT spears (one of my own, 2 friends gave me). one broke going to +1, and 2 broke going to +3. These weren't "exceptional" epics, but they were all that was available on a scarce market.

I know of a couple other people that have broken some of the only intense weapons left in game upgrading them. As much as I don't want to speculate, I've heard Lazarus has chewed through nearly every spear that ever dropped trying to upgrade as well and has not much to show for it.

I see bosses have been added that drop them, I see new mobs with them in the dropfile... the problem with these bosses and mobs is the drop rate and tag chance is always so ridiculously low vs the hp/xp/kill time of the mobs.

level 50's-60's are still the most likely to get a weapon, and it's not right as they aren't upgrading them at this stage due to lack of upgrade drops for low levels.

Since returning to dsoma I've got 7 lvls, 2 of which are 80+ most of that being on continental WBM. I completed the 3000 WBM kill quest 2 levels ago so I would estimate I've killed over 4500 WBM, countless bosses *I killed about 30 kolvar/kelvar over 3 Saturday mornings when no one else was online* and Dan spawned these. The best I've had is probably 3 rare weapons, shit damage rares that aren't even worth upgrading. no epics, no intense. my total weapon quantities found is well below 30, most being untagged.

Also , I don't understand why invulnerability armor wasn't added to hog/apai. I'm having to go and purposely get penalty xp, to hunt elite guards to try and get invul, they aren't even a hunting monster but have the top armor in game, it's very backwards and some small Quality of life adjustments would make things a lot more fun. Currently I get to spend hour after hour chopping WBM for absolutely no drops lol. not a single thing to see, no stats coming up. just chop chop chop level after level.

I'm not tryin to come across hard done by, but you would find making some of these adjustments will increase the likelihood people stay on for the grind past lvl 80.

When server came out it was obvious weapons drop like crazy, every time we went to conti n killed Kl/DD out of boredom the drops are extreme... this was obviously needed for upgrade fails, but now dsoma has the same with an absolutely diabolical drop chance of anything.

Please, please can we get a tiny amount of thought into just a increase in drop and drop tag % on dsoma to equal hsoma.

everyone knows these threads get ignored when people start bitching so try and keep it constructive.
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]This is by no means intended to be a nasty thread, but through a few observations it is evident there is a problem on dsoma now we have an upgrade system. I would like to think even the haters would support this thread as it contains genuine issues. historically dsoma droprate was low, it didn't matter because once you found the best weapon it never lost dura and never broke on repair (unless u drop it -.-) even still, you'd be lucky to ever own an intense weapon for your class but this was ok. fast forward to the dsoma upgrade system and now we have a problem, the lack of epic and intense tag weapons means we have to make a choice; don't upgrade it due to breaking, or risk upgrade for breaking. I've now broken 3 epic BT spears (one of my own, 2 friends gave me). one broke going to +1, and 2 broke going to +3. These weren't "exceptional" epics, but they were all that was available on a scarce market. I know of a couple other people that have broken some of the only intense weapons left in game upgrading them. As much as I don't want to speculate, I've heard Lazarus has chewed through nearly every spear that ever dropped trying to upgrade as well and has not much to show for it. I see bosses have been added that drop them, I see new mobs with them in the dropfile... the problem with these bosses and mobs is the drop rate and tag chance is always so ridiculously low vs the hp/xp/kill time of the mobs. level 50's-60's are still the most likely to get a weapon, and it's not right as they aren't upgrading them at this stage due to lack of upgrade drops for low levels. Since returning to dsoma I've got 7 lvls, 2 of which are 80+ most of that being on continental WBM. I completed the 3000 WBM kill quest 2 levels ago so I would estimate I've killed over 4500 WBM, countless bosses *I killed about 30 kolvar/kelvar over 3 Saturday mornings when no one else was online* and Dan spawned these. The best I've had is probably 3 rare weapons, shit damage rares that aren't even worth upgrading. no epics, no intense. my total weapon quantities found is well below 30, most being untagged. Also , I don't understand why invulnerability armor wasn't added to hog/apai. I'm having to go and purposely get penalty xp, to hunt elite guards to try and get invul, they aren't even a hunting monster but have the top armor in game, it's very backwards and some small Quality of life adjustments would make things a lot more fun. Currently I get to spend hour after hour chopping WBM for absolutely no drops lol. not a single thing to see, no stats coming up. just chop chop chop level after level. I'm not tryin to come across hard done by, but you would find making some of these adjustments will increase the likelihood people stay on for the grind past lvl 80. When server came out it was obvious weapons drop like crazy, every time we went to conti n killed Kl/DD out of boredom the drops are extreme... this was obviously needed for upgrade fails, but now dsoma has the same with an absolutely diabolical drop chance of anything. Please, please can we get a tiny amount of thought into just a increase in drop and drop tag % on dsoma to equal hsoma. everyone knows these threads get ignored when people start bitching so try and keep it constructive.[/quote]
Im still using the intense axe 187 gave me like 18 months ago. Never found a intense weap myself.
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[quote="KEKKET"]Im still using the intense axe 187 gave me like 18 months ago. Never found a intense weap myself.[/quote]
Wat is it with people using the wrong forum to post new ideas?
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[quote="ISELIX"]Wat is it with people using the wrong forum to post new ideas?[/quote]
Called a discussion chap, where something can be you know, discussed. What forum did I post it in, oh wait. It's not a new idea that dsoma drops are disgusting, it's a discussion where it can gain momentum and potentially be addressed.

What is with people trolling for no other reason than to feel important?
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Called a discussion chap, where something can be you know, discussed. What forum did I post it in, oh wait. It's not a new idea that dsoma drops are disgusting, it's a discussion where it can gain momentum and potentially be addressed. What is with people trolling for no other reason than to feel important?[/quote]
Also like to add due to the devils dmg on weapons a untaged attack is like using a lower skill weapon (I'd tag them to show the difference but I npc all untags)

Weapons do drop, there drop rate isn't all that bad however no one wants to use a lower skill weap. Untaged/hardened are classed as trash and npced (maybe even rare)

Even epics can have a big attack difference

I do have a nice stock pile of epic spears to upgrade but can't get ahold of upgrades to even atempt any

Only upgrades I have is str and dex from the easter event
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]Also like to add due to the devils dmg on weapons a untaged attack is like using a lower skill weapon (I'd tag them to show the difference but I npc all untags) Weapons do drop, there drop rate isn't all that bad however no one wants to use a lower skill weap. Untaged/hardened are classed as trash and npced (maybe even rare) Even epics can have a big attack difference I do have a nice stock pile of epic spears to upgrade but can't get ahold of upgrades to even atempt any Only upgrades I have is str and dex from the easter event[/quote]
not sure why you seem to think its different on hsoma, ive had no intense weapons and one epic rap nux and im level capped
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[quote="DEWDROP"]not sure why you seem to think its different on hsoma, ive had no intense weapons and one epic rap nux and im level capped[/quote]
Deal with it.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]Deal with it. [/quote]
says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol[/quote]
nice neox, hope that reply means carnage will give you free items now (:

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[quote="GOAT"]nice neox, hope that reply means carnage will give you free items now (: [/quote]
I never insult carn and he always jumps in on my posts lol, so cba anymore hes a tool as well for always being a busy body
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]I never insult carn and he always jumps in on my posts lol, so cba anymore hes a tool as well for always being a busy body[/quote]
"NEOXIAN"says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol


Says the retard that dropped his spear then ran to the forums claiming it broke lol, gg.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NEOXIAN"]says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol[/quote] Says the retard that dropped his spear then ran to the forums claiming it broke lol, gg. [/quote]
"CARNAGE"
"NEOXIAN"says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol


Says the retard that dropped his spear then ran to the forums claiming it broke lol, gg.


this post?
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[quote="KEKKET"][quote="CARNAGE"][quote="NEOXIAN"]says the retard with an exploited spear that arrow made lol[/quote] Says the retard that dropped his spear then ran to the forums claiming it broke lol, gg. [/quote] [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=2676&title=Confirmation+of+breaking+items+repairing+on+high+dura+&Page=1#post20720]this post?[/url] [/quote]
"FINITO"The [Epic] Spear of Bloodthirst with 944 dura was thrown on the ground by NEOXIAN and picked up by KWISH who has put it in their storage. So there was no spear item with 944 dura that was repaired and broke, the item still exists in the game.


Yet I'm the retard, there's only one retard here chaps and it's not me. Cute effort though.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="FINITO"]The [Epic] Spear of Bloodthirst with 944 dura was thrown on the ground by NEOXIAN and picked up by KWISH who has put it in their storage. So there was no spear item with 944 dura that was repaired and broke, the item still exists in the game.[/quote] Yet I'm the retard, there's only one retard here chaps and it's not me. Cute effort though. [/quote]
Lol I love soma this is why I came back, full of morons that make me chuckle
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[quote="NEOXIAN"]Lol I love soma this is why I came back, full of morons that make me chuckle [/quote]

 

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