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JACKELPUP
When Hero Rings became upgradable, it seemed an untagged ring was better to upgrade than a tagged one.

Also, Pumpkin necklaces upgraded with DTs were better if they were this;

+2 dex

and not this;

+2~1 Dex


However, is a tagged item not better ... as in, which of these two is the better and if the hardened magic earring is not better, why not?

Magic Ear RingMagic Ear Ring
Weight : 5
Durability : 500
Magic Attack + 2


Magic Ear Ring[Hardened] Magic Ear Ring
Weight : 5
Durability : 525
Magic Attack + 2
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]When Hero Rings became upgradable, it seemed an untagged ring was better to upgrade than a tagged one. Also, Pumpkin necklaces upgraded with DTs were better if they were this; +2 dex and not this; +2~1 Dex However, is a tagged item not better ... as in, which of these two is the better and if the hardened magic earring is not better, why not? [item post=67893 index=0] [item post=67893 index=1][/quote]
 #1 2016/01/16 11:02:16
PATHOLOGIST
+2 magic attack will give 2~2 dmg.

Another mistake with the tag system is that weight also contributes to what tag it is.

There was a pic posted a long time ago about a Rare devil axe having more attack & dura than an Epic one because the Epic one was heavier.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]+2 magic attack will give 2~2 dmg. Another mistake with the tag system is that weight also contributes to what tag it is. There was a pic posted a long time ago about a Rare devil axe having more attack & dura than an Epic one because the Epic one was heavier.[/quote]
 #2 2016/01/16 11:17:21
JACKELPUP
So, does the +2~1 only give 1 damage ?
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]So, does the +2~1 only give 1 damage ?[/quote]
 #3 2016/01/16 11:18:37
PATHOLOGIST
It gives you 2minimum and 1 maximum
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]It gives you 2minimum and 1 maximum[/quote]
 #4 2016/01/16 11:18:56
KODS
Knuckle of Devastation[Epic] Knuckle of Devastation
Attack : 81~85
Weight : 17
Durability : 2489
Speed : A(760)
Req. Dex : 103
Req. Skill : 130


Knuckle of Devastation[Rare] Knuckle of Devastation
Attack : 81~86
Weight : 15
Durability : 2261
Speed : A(760)
Req. Dex : 103
Req. Skill : 130


A little bit of dura and more weight makes one epic and the other rare.
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[quote="KODS"][item post=67980 index=0] [item post=67980 index=1] A little bit of dura and more weight makes one epic and the other rare.[/quote]
 #5 2016/01/17 01:57:04
FINITO
[Staff]
Edit: I have fixed the problem that caused the magic ear ring to roll as it did.

I will look into why the magic ear ring is getting the wrong magic attack type given to it when tagged.

The increase of weight for higher tag was done on purpose at the time the system was added.

Remember that the tags overlap. So a bad roll on an Epic tag will not beat a good roll on a Rare tag.
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[quote="FINITO"][b]Edit: I have fixed the problem that caused the magic ear ring to roll as it did.[/b] I will look into why the magic ear ring is getting the wrong magic attack type given to it when tagged. The increase of weight for higher tag was done on purpose at the time the system was added. Remember that the tags overlap. So a bad roll on an Epic tag will not beat a good roll on a Rare tag.[/quote]
 #6 2016/01/18 12:20:23
OROCHIMARU
Do tags depend on the stats given to an item, or is the tag determined first, then the stats?

eg.

a) mob has a 10% chance to drop en epic, and then the stats are rolled for how good it is, or...

b) mob drops an item, and the stat roll then determines what tag to give to the item.

If a) were the case, surely the fact that its harder to get an Epic should make it so Rare & Epic shouldn't overlap?
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[quote="OROCHIMARU"]Do tags depend on the stats given to an item, or is the tag determined first, then the stats? eg. a) mob has a 10% chance to drop en epic, and then the stats are rolled for how good it is, or... b) mob drops an item, and the stat roll then determines what tag to give to the item. If a) were the case, surely the fact that its harder to get an Epic should make it so Rare & Epic shouldn't overlap?[/quote]
 #7 2016/01/18 13:51:58
FINITO
[Staff]
It works like A (Mob has % chance to drop item and then that item has a % chance to get a tag and stats are rolled using the tag).

The overlap is on purpose that is how we decided to implement it at the time.
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[quote="FINITO"]It works like A (Mob has % chance to drop item and then that item has a % chance to get a tag and stats are rolled using the tag). The overlap is on purpose that is how we decided to implement it at the time.[/quote]
 #8 2016/01/18 14:04:34
BRAINSTORM
"KODS"
Knuckle of Devastation[Epic] Knuckle of Devastation
Attack : 81~85
Weight : 17
Durability : 2489
Speed : A(760)
Req. Dex : 103
Req. Skill : 130


Knuckle of Devastation[Rare] Knuckle of Devastation
Attack : 81~86
Weight : 15
Durability : 2261
Speed : A(760)
Req. Dex : 103
Req. Skill : 130


A little bit of dura and more weight makes one epic and the other rare.




imo a rare should not be better then epic i know its by 1 but still lol
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="KODS"][item post=68089 index=0] [item post=68089 index=1] A little bit of dura and more weight makes one epic and the other rare.[/quote] imo a rare should not be better then epic i know its by 1 but still lol[/quote]
 #9 2016/01/18 14:20:13
MAGICALAPE
Any chance you can do the same to hero rings fin?

Tagged ones also come as 2-1, 3-1 etc
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[quote="MAGICALAPE"]Any chance you can do the same to hero rings fin? Tagged ones also come as 2-1, 3-1 etc[/quote]
 #10 2016/01/18 15:16:42
SHARK
What about these beauts

Hero Ring[Rare] Hero Ring
Weight : 4
Durability : 907
Attack + 3
[linkItem locationType=I
Hero Ring[Hardened] Hero Ring+2
Weight : 3
Durability : 477
Attack + 4


Xx
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[quote="SHARK"]What about these beauts [item post=68095 index=0][linkItem locationType=I [item post=68095 index=1] Xx[/quote]
 #11 2016/01/18 15:19:33
SHARK
Would love a x2 keen eye refund x
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[quote="SHARK"]Would love a x2 keen eye refund x[/quote]
 #12 2016/01/18 15:20:45
PECKNARM
"SHARK"Would love a x2 keen eye refund x


got a receipt? lool nice try
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[quote="PECKNARM"][quote="SHARK"]Would love a x2 keen eye refund x[/quote] got a receipt? lool nice try[/quote]
 #13 2016/01/18 15:30:45
FINITO
[Staff]
It is fixed for all items. But existing rolls will not be altered.
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[quote="FINITO"]It is fixed for all items. But existing rolls will not be altered.[/quote]
 #14 2016/01/18 15:30:46
MAGICALAPE
"FINITO"It is fixed for all items. But existing rolls will not be altered.


Thank you :)
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[quote="MAGICALAPE"][quote="FINITO"]It is fixed for all items. But existing rolls will not be altered.[/quote] Thank you :)[/quote]
 #15 2016/01/18 15:35:55

 

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