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"ACAELUS"Have to strike a fine balance, if devils could consistently inconvenience me hunting Leiver Beasts then I'd just hunt Palus an lose interest in conti or wotw. Wouldnt be worth my while when Palus also drop knight swords, other nice items and give similar stats. Any increase to % and i think youll find this is exactly what will happen, Even on 40% These archers run around (I am guessing they have way over 100dex, 120+even in some cases) Even the most elite human multi who has 300-400 hours more played than the average human will have ~95ish dex max. Any human in conti has between 50-75dex probably How do humans kill devils? With int. All any devil has to do, even a reasonably low level 50-60+ dev will have enough dex to just equip a box and prevent any human from casting at all. Even on 40% these devils are completely unkillable in conti even with numerous humans trying. I'll just go hunt at DWs or somewhere where i wont be hassled... which will happen if % is increased if im just going to end up being chased or chase devils who are unkillable...Make no mistake they will almost never manage to kill any human with reasonable str) Just an endless loop of wasted time. Any % increase would be retarded, unless they have their dex reduced too.
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="ACAELUS"]Have to strike a fine balance, if devils could consistently inconvenience me hunting Leiver Beasts then I'd just hunt Palus an lose interest in conti or wotw. Wouldnt be worth my while when Palus also drop knight swords, other nice items and give similar stats.[/quote]
Any increase to % and i think youll find this is exactly what will happen,
Even on 40% These archers run around (I am guessing they have way over 100dex, 120+even in some cases)
Even the most elite human multi who has 300-400 hours more played than the average human will have ~95ish dex max.
Any human in conti has between 50-75dex probably
How do humans kill devils? With int. All any devil has to do, even a reasonably low level 50-60+ dev will have enough dex to just equip a box and prevent any human from casting at all.
Even on 40% these devils are completely unkillable in conti even with numerous humans trying.
I'll just go hunt at DWs or somewhere where i wont be hassled... which will happen if % is increased if im just going to end up being chased or chase devils who are unkillable...Make no mistake they will almost never manage to kill any human with reasonable str) Just an endless loop of wasted time.
Any % increase would be retarded, unless they have their dex reduced too.[/quote]
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#76 2013/11/15 03:24:45 |
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ARRIS |
Yea devil archers are a b!tch aren't they.
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#77 2013/11/15 03:45:29 |
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THEMAT |
Yeah lets up the % even though I can't get a cast off with full dex accessories, hero pads, hero boots and 2nd staff aura. Fantastic.
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#78 2013/11/15 05:34:49 |
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VEX |
Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling"
VoD i believe is hassle free from devils i think . We want a fun pvp experience, one where both sides are capable of killing each other, where you lot seem to just want a no devil new hunting map in peace.
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[quote="VEX"]Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling"
VoD i believe is hassle free from devils i think .
We want a fun pvp experience, one where both sides are capable of killing each other, where you lot seem to just want a no devil new hunting map in peace. [/quote]
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#79 2013/11/15 09:20:53 |
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"VEX"Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling" We can't kill you though because we can't cast.
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[quote="THEMAT"][quote="VEX"]Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling"
VoD i believe is hassle free from devils i think .
We want a fun pvp experience, one where both sides are capable of killing each other, where you lot seem to just want a no devil new hunting map in peace. [/quote]
We can't kill you though because we can't cast.[/quote]
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#80 2013/11/15 10:28:48 |
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"VEX"Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling" I hunt BG's, people who come to raid BG's cannot kill me, however they hurt and waste my pots. I cannot kill them, I team up with 2 other people and still cannot kill them. So tell me at what point does upping devils percentage equate to both sides being able to kill each other? Uppin the percentage is giving devils more chance to kill humans but does not give humans a bigger chance to kill devils and protect themselves.
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[quote="SHATTERSTAR"][quote="VEX"]Sounds to me like Humans just dont want to have the pvp interaction at all, most likely due to there own hsoma feuds, if this is the case then please go back to vod and hunt palus , just because you "CBA to be hassled" doesnt change the fact there are portals from each world and it is called contested precisely for that "Hassling"
VoD i believe is hassle free from devils i think .
We want a fun pvp experience, one where both sides are capable of killing each other, where you lot seem to just want a no devil new hunting map in peace. [/quote]
I hunt BG's, people who come to raid BG's cannot kill me, however they hurt and waste my pots. I cannot kill them, I team up with 2 other people and still cannot kill them. So tell me at what point does upping devils percentage equate to both sides being able to kill each other?
Uppin the percentage is giving devils more chance to kill humans but does not give humans a bigger chance to kill devils and protect themselves.[/quote]
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#81 2013/11/15 10:36:13 |
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Why do I use 100% of the effort to upgrade, gave me 40% of Shanghai? What do you want? We all need to play the human world soma?
Now 60 kills 30 in very difficult. Do you want to try this feeling? Besides, he does not stand there let me play |
#82 2013/11/15 10:40:13 |
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"PERFECT"Why do I use 100% of the effort to upgrade, gave me 40% of Shanghai? What do you want? We all need to play the human world soma? You can play as many hours as you want, this is a game you are not going to take over Shanghai.
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[quote="SHATTERSTAR"][quote="PERFECT"]Why do I use 100% of the effort to upgrade, gave me 40% of Shanghai? What do you want? We all need to play the human world soma?
Now 60 kills 30 in very difficult. Do you want to try this feeling?
Besides, he does not stand there let me play[/quote]
You can play as many hours as you want, this is a game you are not going to take over Shanghai.[/quote]
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#83 2013/11/15 10:45:14 |
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FUJITORA |
There is a difference between acceptable pvp and having someone 20 levels below you bowing you 95 times out of 100.
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#84 2013/11/15 13:02:47 |
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SCOIN |
I would accept devs on 50% when humans own conti if they were also on 50% while devs own conti with humans on 100% when raiding.
If your a dev and you think thats unreasonable then you have some idea of how humans feel about you having your raid % raised. |
#85 2013/11/15 13:08:41 |
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VEX |
Let me clarify what i meant, as far as you getting hit and unable to cast, and the dmg output both ways, I am not arguing for a boost my Dev power for my epeen, i want both sides of the fight to have equal fun.
I think making both races do dmg good enough to get kills on similar ISH lvls, however maybe make the attackers have heavy penalised defences by a lot more, or along those lines. for it to be good and fun/worthwhile pvp damage from all sides has to be substantial. no 1 dmg nonsense. An idea would be something kinda like the Mortal strike effect in Wow (-50% healing) from any heal effects/consumables to be applied to to the attacking/raiding race , making them far more vulnerable and less casual annoying.
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[quote="VEX"]Let me clarify what i meant, as far as you getting hit and unable to cast, and the dmg output both ways, I am not arguing for a boost my Dev power for my epeen, i want both sides of the fight to have equal fun.
I think making both races do dmg good enough to get kills on similar ISH lvls, however maybe make the attackers have heavy penalised defences by a lot more, or along those lines. for it to be good and fun/worthwhile pvp damage from all sides has to be substantial. no 1 dmg nonsense.
An idea would be something kinda like the Mortal strike effect in Wow (-50% healing) from any heal effects/consumables to be applied to to the attacking/raiding race , making them far more vulnerable and less casual annoying.[/quote]
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#86 2013/11/15 14:19:21 |
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After yesterday I've pretty much accepted the fact that conti not really suitable for raiding, we had some humans go grey and considering I'm probably the second highest attack dev the damage I was doing to a naked and geared human hunting bone golems was pathetic to say the least.
This isn't a complaint by the way just accepting that it is what it is, not much point raiding unless devs are going for naked and int clothed players at wraiths who happen to be on low hp when they hit lol.
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[quote="CARNAGE"]After yesterday I've pretty much accepted the fact that conti not really suitable for raiding, we had some humans go grey and considering I'm probably the second highest attack dev the damage I was doing to a naked and geared human hunting bone golems was pathetic to say the least.
This isn't a complaint by the way just accepting that it is what it is, not much point raiding unless devs are going for naked and int clothed players at wraiths who happen to be on low hp when they hit lol.[/quote]
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#87 2013/11/15 14:27:44 |
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Rofl all these posts they make me laugh, this is the reason I quit weeks ago, things aren't going to change on here because the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners, the map is CONTESTED.. Yes if u don't want to be hassled FO to VoD and hunt ur palas or go dungeon and hunt ur DW.
Wtf is the point is having a contested map if u can't contest it lol? RvR is dead on this server because of the community complaining all the time.
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[quote="BOMBOKLAT"]Rofl all these posts they make me laugh, this is the reason I quit weeks ago, things aren't going to change on here because the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners, the map is CONTESTED.. Yes if u don't want to be hassled FO to VoD and hunt ur palas or go dungeon and hunt ur DW.
Wtf is the point is having a contested map if u can't contest it lol?
RvR is dead on this server because of the community complaining all the time. [/quote]
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#88 2013/11/15 18:28:19 |
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"BOMBOKLAT"Rofl all these posts they make me laugh, this is the reason I quit weeks ago, things aren't going to change on here because the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners, the map is CONTESTED.. Yes if u don't want to be hassled FO to VoD and hunt ur palas or go dungeon and hunt ur DW. rvr is dead because currently devs are way way ahead of humans. no other reason. there is a difference between CONTESTED and OWNED BY ONE RACE. sounds like you quite because you are unable to 2 hit every human you see. what a shame. Humans have been saying "Wtf is the point is having a contested map if u can't contest it lol? " and ppl like you reply with " the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners" silly billy
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[quote="SCOIN"][quote="BOMBOKLAT"]Rofl all these posts they make me laugh, this is the reason I quit weeks ago, things aren't going to change on here because the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners, the map is CONTESTED.. Yes if u don't want to be hassled FO to VoD and hunt ur palas or go dungeon and hunt ur DW.
Wtf is the point is having a contested map if u can't contest it lol?
RvR is dead on this server because of the community complaining all the time. [/quote]
rvr is dead because currently devs are way way ahead of humans. no other reason.
there is a difference between CONTESTED and OWNED BY ONE RACE.
sounds like you quite because you are unable to 2 hit every human you see. what a shame.
Humans have been saying "Wtf is the point is having a contested map if u can't contest it lol? " and ppl like you reply with " the people playing this server are just PvE carebears and whiners"
silly billy
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#89 2013/11/15 22:04:19 |
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The only problem with raising devils % on conti when Humans own the map is as follows :
Currently, 4-5 humans cannot kill a devil. Even Zyzz with 3 helpers failed to kill 1 devil. Up their % and it will be impossible to kill devils who raid human owned conti. I know you want to do more damage to chars lower than you, but at the same time, you can't really expect human players to be put in a situation where they can never kill you back even in a group. At the moment it is very hard for you to kill a human, but it is pretty much impossible for them to kill you. Upping the % will help you but make humans worse off, devils say they want PvP, fair enough, but making it so that 4-5 humans cannot kill you is not PvP, it is God mode.
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[quote="CHOJINE"]The only problem with raising devils % on conti when Humans own the map is as follows :
Currently, 4-5 humans cannot kill a devil.
Even Zyzz with 3 helpers failed to kill 1 devil.
Up their % and it will be impossible to kill devils who raid human owned conti.
I know you want to do more damage to chars lower than you, but at the same time, you can't really expect human players to be put in a situation where they can never kill you back even in a group.
At the moment it is very hard for you to kill a human, but it is pretty much impossible for them to kill you.
Upping the % will help you but make humans worse off, devils say they want PvP, fair enough, but making it so that 4-5 humans cannot kill you is not PvP, it is God mode.[/quote]
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#90 2013/11/15 22:55:35 |
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