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I have no idea what you are talking about? What's kicking off? Looks like it's just you and Mitchy kicking off?

It's all come from something said at the recent bosses where nothing actually needed to be said

"OPENTHEDOOR"From what I can see on helms video's most of the active server have been turning up to fight for it.

Which video? Have a link so I can watch?

Organisation from attackers last war was extremely poor.

http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=12234&title=GVW+Video+19%2F12%2F2016&Page=1

That's the most recent one, looks to me like % is the best thing to happen to an hsoma gvw in 2016.

Faint are a new guild and have a bunch of random people helping, you can't expect them to play well without experience and with randoms helping. Again don't see what the issue is, you won? Did the wall even get broken?

Most recent one inhave*

There are bare bones basics like not running into a wall of chars by yourself, don't really need experience for something like that lol.

"OPENTHEDOOR"Pretty unbiased view, but I don't see what's wrong with this?

Both coven and DL are very dominant and the only way to get a "fun" and "fair" war is to do this?

Or am I missing this completely and you actually had fun when nobody turned up/fighting people with half your level and half your gear?

I've been in the dominant guild a couple times, and also spoken to people in DL. Nobody finds no show GVW's fun..

You all seem to expect that your rival guilds and players are going to come flooding back and this is some kind of plan to steamroll you, newflash they are not coming back.

GVW was/is in the last chance saloon, and a dice was rolled to make it better. By the looks of the recent video's they have succeeded so don't complain about it, embrace it.

No one is Dl is realy complaining about the % nerf. Accusations are being made that Dl are deliberately trying to circumvent the system. This is untrue.

"OPENTHEDOOR"http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=12234&title=GVW+Video+19%2F12%2F2016&Page=1

That's the most recent one, looks to me like % is the best thing to happen to an hsoma gvw in 2016.

Faint are a new guild and have a bunch of random people helping, you can't expect them to play well without experience and with randoms helping. Again don't see what the issue is, you won? Did the wall even get broken?

No the wall never got broken. We were on 65% almost all the chars baring 2/3 where Dl. Not been ingame recently but I have heard it as tho we all moved to another guild just for gvw. This simply is not the case.

"LUPISCUS"The % reduction was brought in to try make the server a little less dominated by 1 guild.
Only faint are big enough and contest every week, but they aint got a large stockpile of lev 100's.
So..the idea of % reduction was done with good intent.
But DL now have allied guilds/ new feeder guilds ..''Dominance' for example... so its exacerbating the problem really.
Not havin a pop.. just saying it how it is.

GM's can only do so much to try help things.
DL can proly dominate for at least the next 12 months with a bit of allying and such with other guilds players.
Whether thats good for player morale in other guilds or not is another matter.
Players in all guilds have to consider whats best for the game and the user count.
You can continue to kick ass and pee other ppl off.. or mayb show some err ''gamesmanship''
I dunno.. idc.. i just craft ;p

+1

Also not complaining about the % nerf at all do I think it should be capped off sure, I mean no one likes building up a character and gearing it well only to have nearly half your attacking/defensive power chopped off. As long as whatever happens it applies to ALL guilds I'm completely fine.

OTD I'm not kicking off at all mate. I'm just asking can we have clear guidelines. From a previous chat with Dan before the % became active he said guild hopping wasn't allowed. We said we'd make a second guild for all Alts which he had no problem with. Now it seems there has been a change of the rules.

As for it being fair etc against the likes of faint I agree it's tough for them to compete but on 65% Matty can clearly tank for longer than I could survive against their guild so it's working. Just need to work as a unit when they have numbers which isn't every week as they can't all come on.

I just want these rules being put in place now clearly displayed so in future nobody can moan / no more issues.

We want to keep gv, of course we do, so we go. If you want gv then you come and get it. Turn up in numbers like everyone has said for weeks now and you will stand a chance. We seem to get the blame for winning because we turn up and communicate, that makes no sense to me at all. We have given +1 and +2 items away for free to new members and have even tanked to help new members/guilds along.
We really do need the rules clarifying as it is getting confusing as to what we are supposed to do. As of right now i feel we're ment to give it away like good kids, and tbh we have all ready done that lol.

I'm sorry but you guys are seriously missing the point, Since I have been back in game the only 2 active guilds in wars was DL and faint, faint are a lower level then DL by some margin in most cases, I don't think I can personally take anybody in DL in a duel, I watched the video of the last GVW made by ganon and jesus that was boring watching people like Jackelpup who is a badass mo fo helping you defend the guild village against valasi faint its sad, why are you so desperate to keep hold of GV, faint don't even want it we just want to have fun, getting attacked outside the war zone and getting a PM saying if we don't boot people then the guild is going to get griefed is not very sporting, why can't you just chill out a bit, as I said on another thread on the forum was good to see someone like Mitchy use his alt rather then his main, probs because his alt is stronger with the % mitchy has lost, please stop makling out you are victims we all know full well that you have many of alts infiltrated in other guilds, whether that is 2 spy or some of your members just think DL is way to serious about the game and they want some fun.

Luxy it's not being being victims as such. We are clearly being penalised for something which was deemed as legal and now it's against the rules basically because the first action hasn't worked to knock dl off gv. That's my view on it anyway.