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Any chance you can clear up what we are and aren't allowed to do at gvw now? Seems even being low % there needs to be more rules made against us to hamper us.

Also does this then count towards every other guild? I would like to think so.
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[quote="MITCHY"]Any chance you can clear up what we are and aren't allowed to do at gvw now? Seems even being low % there needs to be more rules made against us to hamper us. Also does this then count towards every other guild? I would like to think so.[/quote]
Would be nice to have some clear rules in place . I stopped playing before over this when we wasn't allowed to ally but all others were.
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Would be nice to have some clear rules in place . I stopped playing before over this when we wasn't allowed to ally but all others were. [/quote]
the answer lies within... dont think gm's can legislate for allying of other guilds
They could make it so 1 guild can win 3 x max in a row.
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]the answer lies within... dont think gm's can legislate for allying of other guilds They could make it so 1 guild can win 3 x max in a row.[/quote]
Not been about in a while, what is this % at GVW bullsh*t?

% changes were implemented due to race stat differences... Why on earth would a guild who loses a war solely due to the fact they don't organise or attend for months on end win by default as the guild holder is nerfed into the ground for simply defending what they invested time for?

Implementing this change must've taken some time... What a massive waste of time at that.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Not been about in a while, what is this % at GVW bullsh*t? % changes were implemented due to race stat differences... Why on earth would a guild who loses a war solely due to the fact they don't organise or attend for months on end win by default as the guild holder is nerfed into the ground for simply defending what they invested time for? Implementing this change must've taken some time... What a massive waste of time at that.[/quote]
You've been on the other end of this lupi when you was with us . Remember when we were against everyone and wanted something done ?
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[quote="ASBJORN"]You've been on the other end of this lupi when you was with us . Remember when we were against everyone and wanted something done ? [/quote]
Sorc +1
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Sorc +1[/quote]
"S0RCERER"Not been about in a while, what is this % at GVW bullsh*t?

% changes were implemented due to race stat differences... Why on earth would a guild who loses a war solely due to the fact they don't organise or attend for months on end win by default as the guild holder is nerfed into the ground for simply defending what they invested time for?

Implementing this change must've taken some time... What a massive waste of time at that.


Very well put.
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[quote="BATMAN"][quote="S0RCERER"]Not been about in a while, what is this % at GVW bullsh*t? % changes were implemented due to race stat differences... Why on earth would a guild who loses a war solely due to the fact they don't organise or attend for months on end win by default as the guild holder is nerfed into the ground for simply defending what they invested time for? Implementing this change must've taken some time... What a massive waste of time at that.[/quote] Very well put.[/quote]
The % reduction was brought in to try make the server a little less dominated by 1 guild.
Only faint are big enough and contest every week, but they aint got a large stockpile of lev 100's.
So..the idea of % reduction was done with good intent.
But DL now have allied guilds/ new feeder guilds ..''Dominance' for example... so its exacerbating the problem really.
Not havin a pop.. just saying it how it is.

GM's can only do so much to try help things.
DL can proly dominate for at least the next 12 months with a bit of allying and such with other guilds players.
Whether thats good for player morale in other guilds or not is another matter.
Players in all guilds have to consider whats best for the game and the user count.
You can continue to kick ass and pee other ppl off.. or mayb show some err ''gamesmanship''
I dunno.. idc.. i just craft ;p
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]The % reduction was brought in to try make the server a little less dominated by 1 guild. Only faint are big enough and contest every week, but they aint got a large stockpile of lev 100's. So..the idea of % reduction was done with good intent. But DL now have allied guilds/ new feeder guilds ..''Dominance' for example... so its exacerbating the problem really. Not havin a pop.. just saying it how it is. GM's can only do so much to try help things. DL can proly dominate for at least the next 12 months with a bit of allying and such with other guilds players. Whether thats good for player morale in other guilds or not is another matter. Players in all guilds have to consider whats best for the game and the user count. You can continue to kick ass and pee other ppl off.. or mayb show some err ''gamesmanship'' I dunno.. idc.. i just craft ;p[/quote]
Dominance was made because DarkLegacy simply didn't have enough space, the majority of characters have not left DarkLegacy. Nothing to do with getting around the system we'd all be in the same guild if we had the space but we don't so we make do.

Anyone in guild will tell you we often have to kick out inactive characters when older ones want to come back and become active again because we don't have room to spare.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Dominance was made because DarkLegacy simply didn't have enough space, the majority of characters have not left DarkLegacy. Nothing to do with getting around the system we'd all be in the same guild if we had the space but we don't so we make do. Anyone in guild will tell you we often have to kick out inactive characters when older ones want to come back and become active again because we don't have room to spare.[/quote]
Pretty unbiased view, but I don't see what's wrong with this?

Both coven and DL are very dominant and the only way to get a "fun" and "fair" war is to do this?

Or am I missing this completely and you actually had fun when nobody turned up/fighting people with half your level and half your gear?

I've been in the dominant guild a couple times, and also spoken to people in DL. Nobody finds no show GVW's fun..

You all seem to expect that your rival guilds and players are going to come flooding back and this is some kind of plan to steamroll you, newflash they are not coming back.

GVW was/is in the last chance saloon, and a dice was rolled to make it better. By the looks of the recent video's they have succeeded so don't complain about it, embrace it.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Pretty unbiased view, but I don't see what's wrong with this? Both coven and DL are very dominant and the only way to get a "fun" and "fair" war is to do this? Or am I missing this completely and you actually had fun when nobody turned up/fighting people with half your level and half your gear? I've been in the dominant guild a couple times, and also spoken to people in DL. Nobody finds no show GVW's fun.. You all seem to expect that your rival guilds and players are going to come flooding back and this is some kind of plan to steamroll you, newflash they are not coming back. GVW was/is in the last chance saloon, and a dice was rolled to make it better. By the looks of the recent video's they have succeeded so don't complain about it, embrace it. [/quote]
I personally don't see a problem with what is happenening at the moment, if I play two chars why can't I bring my strongest? Just because they aren't in DL doesn't mean I can't attend and fight. I choose to attack faint or others isn't a concern of anyone let alone a gm surely?
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[quote="MITCHY"]I personally don't see a problem with what is happenening at the moment, if I play two chars why can't I bring my strongest? Just because they aren't in DL doesn't mean I can't attend and fight. I choose to attack faint or others isn't a concern of anyone let alone a gm surely?[/quote]
yawn
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[quote="CONSUME"]yawn[/quote]
"OPENTHEDOOR"Pretty unbiased view, but I don't see what's wrong with this?

Both coven and DL are very dominant and the only way to get a "fun" and "fair" war is to do this?

Or am I missing this completely and you actually had fun when nobody turned up/fighting people with half your level and half your gear?

I've been in the dominant guild a couple times, and also spoken to people in DL. Nobody finds no show GVW's fun..

You all seem to expect that your rival guilds and players are going to come flooding back and this is some kind of plan to steamroll you, newflash they are not coming back.

GVW was/is in the last chance saloon, and a dice was rolled to make it better. By the looks of the recent video's they have succeeded so don't complain about it, embrace it.


I would buy into the argument if people actually went to fight for it.
I haven't been to devil GVW for... months.
We still haven't lost it even since the % change.

The problem was never the difference in power, it's the fact that those that fight to take it over are not motivated/organised to do it.

Seeing as values are higher on Dsoma (and HP lower) the % has a far larger impact... Still haven't lost it.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Pretty unbiased view, but I don't see what's wrong with this? Both coven and DL are very dominant and the only way to get a "fun" and "fair" war is to do this? Or am I missing this completely and you actually had fun when nobody turned up/fighting people with half your level and half your gear? I've been in the dominant guild a couple times, and also spoken to people in DL. Nobody finds no show GVW's fun.. You all seem to expect that your rival guilds and players are going to come flooding back and this is some kind of plan to steamroll you, newflash they are not coming back. GVW was/is in the last chance saloon, and a dice was rolled to make it better. By the looks of the recent video's they have succeeded so don't complain about it, embrace it. [/quote] I would buy into the argument if people actually went to fight for it. I haven't been to devil GVW for... months. We still haven't lost it even since the % change. The problem was never the difference in power, it's the fact that those that fight to take it over are not motivated/organised to do it. Seeing as values are higher on Dsoma (and HP lower) the % has a far larger impact... Still haven't lost it.[/quote]
From what I can see on helms video's most of the active server have been turning up to fight for it.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]From what I can see on helms video's most of the active server have been turning up to fight for it.[/quote]
Last gvw just gone was the most I've been interested in attending in ages with 5% organisation we would have lost and yet it's kicked off again . It's a case of blaming dl for being the most active . If gms want dl gone just say that's fine least It's out in the open . Had this since day one in dynamic to eq and dark legacy .. won't lie I just want to play the game sick of this all kicking off via taking sides and online input by those who should not be part of that .
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[quote="ASBJORN"]Last gvw just gone was the most I've been interested in attending in ages with 5% organisation we would have lost and yet it's kicked off again . It's a case of blaming dl for being the most active . If gms want dl gone just say that's fine least It's out in the open . Had this since day one in dynamic to eq and dark legacy .. won't lie I just want to play the game sick of this all kicking off via taking sides and online input by those who should not be part of that . [/quote]

 

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