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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Now humans actually turn up, do you honestly believe that floating around the 60% mark is actually a fair %? Discuss.[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]Its fair.[/quote]

[quote="TOLIC"]was one of the best wars ive attended, both sides droping players. could of gone either way at the end. so % should be fine ;o?[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]The system is designed to balance itself to a fair % depending on what happens at previous wotws. If you dont do enough damage that is entirely your own fault, go and level up more. Your high levels pretty much can kill anyone and do enough damage as it is[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="FUJITORA"]The system is designed to balance itself to a fair % depending on what happens at previous wotws. If you dont do enough damage that is entirely your own fault, go and level up more. Your high levels pretty much can kill anyone and do enough damage as it is[/quote] ... You are a high int no str human comparing dmg to the highest level str devil(s), of course they hurt, so take your own advice. What level exactly do you expect a devil to be to actually DO any damage? And what level do you think I am? Your top humans can tank 5+ of us at a time on a stone, we cannot do the same. (Don't start with s0rc tanking all of you using int, that's just insulting yourself.)[/quote]

[quote="NITROSTEALTH"][quote="PATHOLOGIST"]Now humans actually turn up, do you honestly believe that floating around the 60% mark is actually a fair %? Discuss.[/quote] Rofl[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]No str? I have more str than probably 80% of humans at that wotw. Lets just forget about damage and tanking for a bit. Now... Devils won the last two wotws at 61%, so the system brought it down to 58.5% and humans were able to win. What exactly are you proposing, put devils on 70%? So they can win wotw every week for the next 6 months? [/quote]

[quote="CARNAGE"]I got wrecked lol but still had fun.[/quote]

[quote="VEX"]Fuji the reason we won is cause girls such as yourself don't bother to turn up unless devils are low enough for your liking , nothing to do with balance . and i can barely kill anyone other than a last hit on a human with 4 or so hitting them. I am over lvl 70 so your bullshit "go and lvl up more" is just retarded. Its funny you saying that when humans cry to get the pk disabled all day long, like someone said above, Take your own advice ? All you ever post is biased all about me utter rubbish , knux is too weak ....oh he uses knux, Coincidence? no all are the same. Best war? im sure it was for you , no devil can take any amount of time with the DB barrage and can not kill a human vastly lower either, weaken+ 2-3 dbs and im dead, full diab at lvl 70+ all humans easily outpot any dmg i can do.[/quote]

[quote="VEX"]Look at the kills in the feed , we all losing 200-400 or so pos mostly , while the ones managed to be killed give us 50. "get Stronger" so you can whinge and cry to get our % lowered again to make fuji win win! Idiot[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]Been to almost every war except one so yeah, cut your bullshit. Its never going to be fair, its never going to be balanced, this is as good as its going to get. If people dont turn up because they think they will die, thats their problem, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that. As i said before, i dont care if you can tank 7 people, it doesnt matter if it takes 4 devils to kill 1 human or 12 humans to kill 1 devil. The % system is designed so that both sides will have a reasonably fair chance to win, The % system doesnt care if you lose 400 pos a kill and gain only 50. The only thing it cares about is: Devils won twice on 61%, so the % was lowered. Even with such a system in place devils have had conti probably 75% of the time Im sure Isylver is open to suggestions as to how to improve it.[/quote]

[quote="REHLINA"]It balances Wotw out more, yes you can't kill anyone on ya own but nether can humans Think pos could do with being looked at. Maybe a max loss so u dont lose 350 in one go and only gain 50 for a kill and no pos for assisting[/quote]

[quote="PATHOLOGIST"][quote="FUJITORA"]No str? I have more str than probably 80% of humans at that wotw. Lets just forget about damage and tanking for a bit. Now... Devils won the last two wotws at 61%, so the system brought it down to 58.5% and humans were able to win. What exactly are you proposing, put devils on 70%? So they can win wotw every week for the next 6 months? [/quote] Look fuji, I want to discuss this, not have people troll as they usually do. First of all, look at the play style, the humans are so comfortable they don't even pot to full, or feel the need to. Take a look at today's wotw video posted by ganon/link. http://www.twitch.tv/linkdxganonpk/b/483322318 @ 13:01 you have Alucard (Level 75+) Devil archer using an Intense Grim bow, the best thing ingame, doing measly damage to GanonPk. Straight after, he goes for LinkDx, who has 85.4str, 463hp and after 5 hits only puts him on 50%hp, so 10 hits to kill someone with over 10 levels difference who prios INT. @ 14:02 you have Tasteless, 70+ hitting GanonPk, look at the damage there. @ 21:05 you have Carnage, Goat, Jaragoondoo being tanked by Malefic. @ 51:33 Jaragoondoo level 62 devil knuckler with intense KoD hitting linkDx, look how much 2 hits does to him. @ 53:40 Malefic is tanking Goat, Jaragoondoo, and an archer I cant get the name of, in Nightmare robes. Once again, check the damage we do. He does not even need to pot, they are out-healing it. @ 59:42 Buddy, 2nd strongest Swordman on Dsoma, used 4th on LinkDx, just under 1/4 oh his health. It was a fun war purely because of the numbers that turned up, in no way was it anywhere close to being fair. Painfully one sided.[/quote]

[quote="FUJITORA"]Thats exactly what i said, its not fair, its not balanced and it never will be. Please read my previous post again, now I'm going to exaggerate it even further It does not matter if carnage was lvl 100, played 5000 hours and still only did 10% damage to a level 50 human. It does not matter if a level 35 human can kill you with a fireball. (Emphasis on exaggerate) The only thing that matters: Devils were able to win on 61% twice in a row. It is perfectly reasonable that the % is reduced by 2.5% so humans have a better chance to win, and they did. We know there are problems, i acknowledge that. Post suggestions or solutions, otherwise this sill be as good as it gets. [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]I agree Fuji. Thing is, if the % is upped for devils, the turnout for humans will be lower and would skew the favour back to devils again. If the turnout remained the same and % was upped, we'd see a more 'balanced' war, but as there's a human factor involved (mind the pun!) regarding attendance, it seems the current system's as good as it'll get.[/quote]