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INUYASHA |
Today, I realize how unbalanced the Races are. I was attacked by Devil Today who probably was lvl 100 he had no gears on only some shity low lvl bow. While i was fully geared with 144-166 defense(im lvl 70). He was able to 3 shot me i have over 500 HP. Probably i will do to him 1dmg if i ever hit him since he was Archer . So please Devs could you please explain me how im suppose to stand a chance against NAKED devil? Today i was checking Dsoma armory . Seems their best bows drop from mob that has 1100hp, Hsoma Best bow drop from 5k Hp mob... and so on.. If we take Devil that is pure axe and Human that is axe too both are lvl 100 , without any gears Devil will have 200+ Defence while human has only 171(Capp Str) so devil will beat shit out of him. Devil best bows does like 64-76 DMG or something like that... while Best INTENSE Stinger i saw was 40-63 or something... just example. and so many more things Plus They have upgrades also.
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[quote="INUYASHA"]Today, I realize how unbalanced the Races are. I was attacked by Devil Today who probably was lvl 100 he had no gears on only some shity low lvl bow. While i was fully geared with 144-166 defense(im lvl 70). He was able to 3 shot me i have over 500 HP. Probably i will do to him 1dmg if i ever hit him since he was Archer . So please Devs could you please explain me how im suppose to stand a chance against NAKED devil? Today i was checking Dsoma armory . Seems their best bows drop from mob that has 1100hp, Hsoma Best bow drop from 5k Hp mob... and so on.. If we take Devil that is pure axe and Human that is axe too both are lvl 100 , without any gears Devil will have 200+ Defence while human has only 171(Capp Str) so devil will beat shit out of him. Devil best bows does like 64-76 DMG or something like that... while Best INTENSE Stinger i saw was 40-63 or something... just example. and so many more things Plus They have upgrades also.
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#1 2017/03/27 20:25:10 |
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PATHOLOGIST |
The game was initially designed for devils to be stronger yet fewer in number.
So, a level 70 human, where most of your stats will start to shine through in another 25 levels, versus a level 100 devil... speaks for itself. The GMs are now redesigning the game - please see the public test discussion.
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[quote="PATHOLOGIST"]The game was initially designed for devils to be stronger yet fewer in number.
So, a level 70 human, where most of your stats will start to shine through in another 25 levels, versus a level 100 devil... speaks for itself.
The GMs are now redesigning the game - please see the public test discussion.[/quote]
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#2 2017/03/27 21:09:25 |
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GRAVIJA |
Apples and Oranges.
A level 100 devil will 3 hit a lvl 70 human. But gan0n will 2 hit almost any devil with weaken. And do even more when we can't wear robes or gain over 100 magic defence after the patch. Also i struggle to hit a pure dex build human with the amount of evasion. Last but not least as mentioned above, Dsoma makes up about 30% of active users.
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[quote="GRAVIJA"]Apples and Oranges.
A level 100 devil will 3 hit a lvl 70 human.
But gan0n will 2 hit almost any devil with weaken. And do even more when we can't wear robes or gain over 100 magic defence after the patch.
Also i struggle to hit a pure dex build human with the amount of evasion.
Last but not least as mentioned above, Dsoma makes up about 30% of active users.
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#3 2017/03/27 21:58:02 |
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WAGAWAGA |
explain me plzz how u think lvl 70 gona fight a lvl 100 even with shiit gear ur point to do dmg for a lvl 100 its look like u bring ur point to unbalnce part. Keep lvling and when u hit the 100 u gona be better:)
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#4 2017/03/28 08:36:23 |
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JAMIS |
A lvl 100 devil will 2 hit a lvl 70 devil, therefore by your logic humans are stronger than devils and must be nerfed!
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#5 2017/03/28 12:10:59 |
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DONKA |
"INUYASHA"Today, I realize how unbalanced the Races are. I was attacked by Devil Today who probably was lvl 100 he had no gears on only some shity low lvl bow. While i was fully geared with 144-166 defense(im lvl 70). He was able to 3 shot me i have over 500 HP. Probably i will do to him 1dmg if i ever hit him since he was Archer . So please Devs could you please explain me how im suppose to stand a chance against NAKED devil? Today i was checking Dsoma armory . Seems their best bows drop from mob that has 1100hp, Hsoma Best bow drop from 5k Hp mob... and so on.. If we take Devil that is pure axe and Human that is axe too both are lvl 100 , without any gears Devil will have 200+ Defence while human has only 171(Capp Str) so devil will beat shit out of him. Devil best bows does like 64-76 DMG or something like that... while Best INTENSE Stinger i saw was 40-63 or something... just example. and so many more things Plus They have upgrades also. my main is nearly capped devil archer, and ganopk nearly 1 shoot me on weaking, so yes it is balance :) Also probably any of those devils haven't got any gear mate!
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[quote="DONKA"][quote="INUYASHA"]Today, I realize how unbalanced the Races are. I was attacked by Devil Today who probably was lvl 100 he had no gears on only some shity low lvl bow. While i was fully geared with 144-166 defense(im lvl 70). He was able to 3 shot me i have over 500 HP. Probably i will do to him 1dmg if i ever hit him since he was Archer . So please Devs could you please explain me how im suppose to stand a chance against NAKED devil? Today i was checking Dsoma armory . Seems their best bows drop from mob that has 1100hp, Hsoma Best bow drop from 5k Hp mob... and so on.. If we take Devil that is pure axe and Human that is axe too both are lvl 100 , without any gears Devil will have 200+ Defence while human has only 171(Capp Str) so devil will beat shit out of him. Devil best bows does like 64-76 DMG or something like that... while Best INTENSE Stinger i saw was 40-63 or something... just example. and so many more things Plus They have upgrades also.
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my main is nearly capped devil archer, and ganopk nearly 1 shoot me on weaking, so yes it is balance :)
Also probably any of those devils haven't got any gear mate![/quote]
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#6 2017/03/28 15:19:03 |
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DEVASTATION |
-I have more than 140 dex, couldn't get 1 shot in on a human player with evasion.
- Zombie from a mage and 1 bow user kills me off with ease - Level 100s do 2-3 hits on Level 70s in d soma so I can't see why that would be any different for hsoma. Once the patch comes in I imagine dsoma may become v quiet, as it, on the face of it to me, is a flawed system.
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[quote="DEVASTATION"]-I have more than 140 dex, couldn't get 1 shot in on a human player with evasion.
- Zombie from a mage and 1 bow user kills me off with ease
- Level 100s do 2-3 hits on Level 70s in d soma so I can't see why that would be any different for hsoma.
Once the patch comes in I imagine dsoma may become v quiet, as it, on the face of it to me, is a flawed system.[/quote]
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#7 2017/03/28 17:41:04 |
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DONKA |
"DEVASTATION"-I have more than 140 dex, couldn't get 1 shot in on a human player with evasion. also we are outnumbered
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[quote="DONKA"][quote="DEVASTATION"]-I have more than 140 dex, couldn't get 1 shot in on a human player with evasion.
- Zombie from a mage and 1 bow user kills me off with ease
- Level 100s do 2-3 hits on Level 70s in d soma so I can't see why that would be any different for hsoma.
Once the patch comes in I imagine dsoma may become v quiet, as it, on the face of it to me, is a flawed system.[/quote]
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#8 2017/03/28 18:31:36 |
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KAIDONE |
Stop playing it down lads devil's ain't out numbered in a pvp situation it's usually devs that out number or atleast rival the humans on numbers.
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#9 2017/03/29 10:05:39 |
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FFDP |
"KAIDONE"Stop playing it down lads devil's ain't out numbered in a pvp situation it's usually devs that out number or atleast rival the humans on numbers. Finito got access to amount on accounts on each side. Devils win only if amount of punched chars turn up. If no one like WAGAWAGA, EVIL_JR, INTHEFACE, XARUTHAR etc. don't turn up, we alwas use cause of being outnumbered. Stone, Weak, Zombie, two spell and gg :)
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[quote="FFDP"][quote="KAIDONE"]Stop playing it down lads devil's ain't out numbered in a pvp situation it's usually devs that out number or atleast rival the humans on numbers.[/quote]
Finito got access to amount on accounts on each side. Devils win only if amount of punched chars turn up. If no one like WAGAWAGA, EVIL_JR, INTHEFACE, XARUTHAR etc. don't turn up, we alwas use cause of being outnumbered.
Stone, Weak, Zombie, two spell and gg :)[/quote]
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#10 2017/03/29 11:22:02 |
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KAIDONE |
"FFDP""KAIDONE"Stop playing it down lads devil's ain't out numbered in a pvp situation it's usually devs that out number or atleast rival the humans on numbers. I fully agree the population of hsoma is larger than dsoma, however the amount of people on hsoma that actually attend a RvR event is disgraceful I'd argue over 10 weeks if you were to work out the average attendance of each race it would be very similar, ofcourse we don't have these statistics at hand so no one can prove who outnumbers who. Maybe a job for the guys who love recording all statistics ect. :)
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[quote="KAIDONE"][quote="FFDP"][quote="KAIDONE"]Stop playing it down lads devil's ain't out numbered in a pvp situation it's usually devs that out number or atleast rival the humans on numbers.[/quote]
Finito got access to amount on accounts on each side. Devils win only if amount of punched chars turn up. If no one like WAGAWAGA, EVIL_JR, INTHEFACE, XARUTHAR etc. don't turn up, we alwas use cause of being outnumbered.
Stone, Weak, Zombie, two spell and gg :)[/quote]
I fully agree the population of hsoma is larger than dsoma, however the amount of people on hsoma that actually attend a RvR event is disgraceful I'd argue over 10 weeks if you were to work out the average attendance of each race it would be very similar, ofcourse we don't have these statistics at hand so no one can prove who outnumbers who.
Maybe a job for the guys who love recording all statistics ect. :)[/quote]
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#11 2017/03/29 15:29:30 |
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KEKKET |
Armory says devil world 36% of total population and i alone have around 15 stores
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#12 2017/03/29 17:22:46 |
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KAIDONE |
Ok i change my mind Devs need extra attack and defense because they're clearly thick and can't read or atleast comprehend simple English.
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#13 2017/03/29 18:03:23 |
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DONKA |
"KAIDONE"Ok i change my mind Devs need extra attack and defense because they're clearly thick and can't read or atleast comprehend simple English. Stop being rude, there is no point of going this way, more than 50 % of humans are capped, they cannot be asked to go wotw and rvr as they don't need extra 10 % exp, but they need drops, so is better to spend 1h on blg/magma then on wotw. After cap rise, you'll spot it is changed, as everyone would like to hit level 110 A.S.A.P. On our devil wars usually 4-5 capped devils turns, on your arround 20 + capped humans... Patient mate.. See what Finitio is going to do, atm patch make us be like a paper against mages, so no point of going wotw till cap, things need to be looked at and improved to make balance both ways. But on e soma was always clear that devil got physical power, humans got magic power and bigger forces! Grief somewhere else, or made devil char and start understanding both sides :)
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[quote="DONKA"][quote="KAIDONE"]Ok i change my mind Devs need extra attack and defense because they're clearly thick and can't read or atleast comprehend simple English.[/quote]
Stop being rude, there is no point of going this way, more than 50 % of humans are capped, they cannot be asked to go wotw and rvr as they don't need extra 10 % exp, but they need drops, so is better to spend 1h on blg/magma then on wotw.
After cap rise, you'll spot it is changed, as everyone would like to hit level 110 A.S.A.P.
On our devil wars usually 4-5 capped devils turns, on your arround 20 + capped humans...
Patient mate.. See what Finitio is going to do, atm patch make us be like a paper against mages, so no point of going wotw till cap, things need to be looked at and improved to make balance both ways.
But on e soma was always clear that devil got physical power, humans got magic power and bigger forces!
Grief somewhere else, or made devil char and start understanding both sides :)[/quote]
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#14 2017/03/29 18:58:33 |
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let's not kid ourselves here.. kaidone is correct. There aint many human mages ..and most of them would be 2 hit by mele devs 1 v 1 ..
Devs are way op compared to humans. Only factor that decides who wins.. is which humans are playing the dev characters. Maybe new patch will sort it out Maybe hsoma has more players..but not many venture into the cont coz of this ..and same reason not many attend wotw Imo this is the saddest thing about soma. We have all the scope for a true rvr game..but its ruined by the total imbalance of human/ dev stats .. and the only ppl who decide who win or lose are the ppl who have access to most devs/ humans and who work in partnership #harrodstinfoilhatsarethebest ( sad but true) Lets see a 1 v1 with tongskie with his mega gear against a top mele dev....... i doubt tongie would even get a hit in and die in 2-3 hits
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]let's not kid ourselves here.. kaidone is correct. There aint many human mages ..and most of them would be 2 hit by mele devs 1 v 1 ..
Devs are way op compared to humans.
Only factor that decides who wins.. is which humans are playing the dev characters.
Maybe new patch will sort it out
Maybe hsoma has more players..but not many venture into the cont coz of this ..and same reason not many attend wotw
Imo this is the saddest thing about soma. We have all the scope for a true rvr game..but its ruined by the total imbalance of human/ dev stats .. and the only ppl who decide who win or lose are the ppl who have access to most devs/ humans and who work in partnership
#harrodstinfoilhatsarethebest
( sad but true)
Lets see a 1 v1 with tongskie with his mega gear against a top mele dev....... i doubt tongie would even get a hit in and die in 2-3 hits[/quote]
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