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So I have been having a play on albion online and there is a lot that soma can learn from that game...The game is 100% player driven economy which means everything is craft-able and people specialise in certain things i.e gather high tier leather etc.

Also there are many dungeons with bosses that spawn every 15 mins that you NEED to hunt in a guild which makes the game more fun than just grinding as you get better exp on the group hunt.

So some ideas...and i want this thread to be about ideas to improve soma and brings player back...not turn into a whos the biggest keyboard warrior post.

My ideas...

1: Make mags more melle friendly so lower level can hunt there in group, a lvl 80-90 can tank them melle with a healer and some DPS help. But the INT they kick out just ruins it for lower levels. This will help bring more items into game.

Also at lvl 100 and melee char this are still hard to hunt, they are very "mage" friendly which makes it very boring for melle chars post cap.

Also make a second Spawn on Mags in abais.

2: Make VoD the only PK map, There maps are split up into pk free or pk zones, the PK zones have better loot/dung etc so its a risk for you to hunt there. But there are easy maps where you can hunt i.e abias can be PK free so anyone can hunt there but maybe the spawns are not as big, adding shanis there will help.

3: make everything crafltable and make the materials dropped by lower level monsters so people can choose to go hunt for mats to craft rather than high level items. I.e choose to make them. This will improve trade as well.

4: Make dung level 4 a group hunting area with small bosses that spawn often (not every 64 hours...) So guild can go hunt down there and get good exp as a group no matter what your hitting with i.e int or melee. This will make hunting more fun as people will want to hunt in group to get faster exp.

5: Let people BUY with MONEY rested exp. There is nothing wrong with making money out of a game an albion have sold 220k at $99 a pop...because people would rather spend a bit of money to save time...basically you lvl 2 x faster and get 2 x more mats if you pay that much.

So online gamers now will spend a few quid to get rested exp...so why not let people do that? I would consider lvling a new char if this was possible. i.e keep people in the game more and let them make new chars. Even paying for 2 x crafting speed.

6: the PVP there is very good fun you do lose all your items if you die in a RED zone but these items yu can buy back within 5 mins at the acution house. The thing with soma PVP the items you wud drop might take you a year to remake not 5 mins...I personally thing item drop should be taken out of soma pvp and changed to just high amount barr drops even linked with your barr in stash. I dont think its fair to lose an item it may of taken you 3 years to get just becuase you got killed buy some dude 20 level higher than you...

Also the PVP there is balanced as a high level player will have say 2k hp and do 500-600 dmg and a n00b can have 1500 hp and deal 400 dmg. So they can still fight...

the 20 level difference here is silly, i could kill many lvl 80s before they would even hit me the stats difference is to much for 20 levels i think it should be 10 MAX.



I personally got bored when i capped and i can see why people leave when they are capped, but with guild hunts, better mag hunts and more things to do will help.

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[quote="MATTY"]So I have been having a play on albion online and there is a lot that soma can learn from that game...The game is 100% player driven economy which means everything is craft-able and people specialise in certain things i.e gather high tier leather etc. Also there are many dungeons with bosses that spawn every 15 mins that you NEED to hunt in a guild which makes the game more fun than just grinding as you get better exp on the group hunt. So some ideas...and i want this thread to be about ideas to improve soma and brings player back...not turn into a whos the biggest keyboard warrior post. My ideas... 1: Make mags more melle friendly so lower level can hunt there in group, a lvl 80-90 can tank them melle with a healer and some DPS help. But the INT they kick out just ruins it for lower levels. This will help bring more items into game. Also at lvl 100 and melee char this are still hard to hunt, they are very "mage" friendly which makes it very boring for melle chars post cap. Also make a second Spawn on Mags in abais. 2: Make VoD the only PK map, There maps are split up into pk free or pk zones, the PK zones have better loot/dung etc so its a risk for you to hunt there. But there are easy maps where you can hunt i.e abias can be PK free so anyone can hunt there but maybe the spawns are not as big, adding shanis there will help. 3: make everything crafltable and make the materials dropped by lower level monsters so people can choose to go hunt for mats to craft rather than high level items. I.e choose to make them. This will improve trade as well. 4: Make dung level 4 a group hunting area with small bosses that spawn often (not every 64 hours...) So guild can go hunt down there and get good exp as a group no matter what your hitting with i.e int or melee. This will make hunting more fun as people will want to hunt in group to get faster exp. 5: Let people BUY with MONEY rested exp. There is nothing wrong with making money out of a game an albion have sold 220k at $99 a pop...because people would rather spend a bit of money to save time...basically you lvl 2 x faster and get 2 x more mats if you pay that much. So online gamers now will spend a few quid to get rested exp...so why not let people do that? I would consider lvling a new char if this was possible. i.e keep people in the game more and let them make new chars. Even paying for 2 x crafting speed. 6: the PVP there is very good fun you do lose all your items if you die in a RED zone but these items yu can buy back within 5 mins at the acution house. The thing with soma PVP the items you wud drop might take you a year to remake not 5 mins...I personally thing item drop should be taken out of soma pvp and changed to just high amount barr drops even linked with your barr in stash. I dont think its fair to lose an item it may of taken you 3 years to get just becuase you got killed buy some dude 20 level higher than you... Also the PVP there is balanced as a high level player will have say 2k hp and do 500-600 dmg and a n00b can have 1500 hp and deal 400 dmg. So they can still fight... the 20 level difference here is silly, i could kill many lvl 80s before they would even hit me the stats difference is to much for 20 levels i think it should be 10 MAX. I personally got bored when i capped and i can see why people leave when they are capped, but with guild hunts, better mag hunts and more things to do will help. [/quote]
Get rid of point 2 because that's already a reason why most older players wouldn't return. Majority of these older players you're desperate to see back are pvp guys not care bears. Too much room for abuse by mentioned keyboard warriors.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Get rid of point 2 because that's already a reason why most older players wouldn't return. Majority of these older players you're desperate to see back are pvp guys not care bears. Too much room for abuse by mentioned keyboard warriors. [/quote]
Some of your suggestions are not ideal but I am sure someone will come along and say why.

I agree with the rested and donation thing, surely will help with running costs. You can even limit it to 1 a week or something.
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[quote="DEVASTATION"]Some of your suggestions are not ideal but I am sure someone will come along and say why. I agree with the rested and donation thing, surely will help with running costs. You can even limit it to 1 a week or something.[/quote]
All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100"

And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm"

If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored....

Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me.

If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live?

Gand
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[quote="GANDALF"]All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100" And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm" If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored.... Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me. If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live? Gand [/quote]
Name on albion so i kill you and take your shit?
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[quote="NOTMAT"]Name on albion so i kill you and take your shit?[/quote]
I like some Of these ideas as I played albion, however it is a different game and I'm not sure how they would implement some of this.. A good thread for people to possibly make a few minor adjustments to your ideas or even add their own..

+1 from me tho

P.s you can already buy rested potions on donations page
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[quote="SHADOWS"]I like some Of these ideas as I played albion, however it is a different game and I'm not sure how they would implement some of this.. A good thread for people to possibly make a few minor adjustments to your ideas or even add their own.. +1 from me tho P.s you can already buy rested potions on donations page[/quote]
A lot of players from soma have left for Albion. Albion is a great game, but you are forgetting it has 200k people who have paid £30-90 to buy it and has full time developers. Like Gand says it's in the 3rd beta and they have messed up a lot to get there.

Taking aspects wouldn't work in this game. Soma is soma.

Some of your suggestions make me think you haven't left the royal island on Albion. (Also Albion will have the same player retention problems unless they entertain seasons I think but this is a soma forum not Albion one).
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]A lot of players from soma have left for Albion. Albion is a great game, but you are forgetting it has 200k people who have paid £30-90 to buy it and has full time developers. Like Gand says it's in the 3rd beta and they have messed up a lot to get there. Taking aspects wouldn't work in this game. Soma is soma. Some of your suggestions make me think you haven't left the royal island on Albion. (Also Albion will have the same player retention problems unless they entertain seasons I think but this is a soma forum not Albion one).[/quote]
"GANDALF"All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100"

And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm"

If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored....

Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me.

If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live?

Gand


All i read was...

Matty am well jealous cus u pwn me now... *yawn*
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[quote="MATTY"][quote="GANDALF"]All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100" And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm" If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored.... Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me. If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live? Gand [/quote] All i read was... Matty am well jealous cus u pwn me now... *yawn* [/quote]
I dont see the point in these threads. Gms didnt have time to implement a easter event and we are still waiting on the cap raise. Whats the point in discussing anything untill there is devolopment time.
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[quote="ACAELUS"]I dont see the point in these threads. Gms didnt have time to implement a easter event and we are still waiting on the cap raise. Whats the point in discussing anything untill there is devolopment time.[/quote]
"GANDALF"All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100"

And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm"

If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored....

Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me.

If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live?

Gand


Well put gand. Its abit rich complaing about a mobs Ma when you have 97int. You have made your bed so lay on it...
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[quote="ACAELUS"][quote="GANDALF"]All I read was "let me buy lots of rested pots so my pilot can level me a super char to 100" And "make mags easier for my pilot to farm" If you hadn't piloted and rushed to level 100 you wouldn't be bored.... Mags are fine I see plenty of melle characters killing them faster than me. If you enjoy Albion stick to it? It's in 3rd of 4th beta phase? So due another wipe and that's been like 2 years now of waiting for it to go live? Gand [/quote] Well put gand. Its abit rich complaing about a mobs Ma when you have 97int. You have made your bed so lay on it...[/quote]
"ACAELUS"I dont see the point in these threads. Gms didnt have time to implement a easter event and we are still waiting on the cap raise. Whats the point in discussing anything untill there is devolopment time.


+1

Let's hope Fin got his intense magic hat and laptop going in a darkened room somewhere , and he provides us with our SOMA update at some point.
Gogo GM's x
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="ACAELUS"]I dont see the point in these threads. Gms didnt have time to implement a easter event and we are still waiting on the cap raise. Whats the point in discussing anything untill there is devolopment time.[/quote] +1 Let's hope Fin got his intense magic hat and laptop going in a darkened room somewhere , and he provides us with our SOMA update at some point. Gogo GM's x [/quote]
I don't think threads like these are needed. Like gand said if you want albion then go and play albion. Myself and others are happy the way soma is already and are happy to wait for any updates if at all come.
Soma is unique and would prefer it to stay that way. The only thing I would like to suggest is monthly subs? Most are adults here and even the unemployed / dole players can afford something a month. £3? if it brings more than donations then Surely we can handle this as a community.
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[quote="SOMCHAI"]I don't think threads like these are needed. Like gand said if you want albion then go and play albion. Myself and others are happy the way soma is already and are happy to wait for any updates if at all come. Soma is unique and would prefer it to stay that way. The only thing I would like to suggest is monthly subs? Most are adults here and even the unemployed / dole players can afford something a month. £3? if it brings more than donations then Surely we can handle this as a community.[/quote]
Il like to add there are few players like Op who complain they want more then ask for easy mode gaming doesn't make sense. Toodles
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[quote="SOMCHAI"]Il like to add there are few players like Op who complain they want more then ask for easy mode gaming doesn't make sense. Toodles [/quote]
I don't see how you can want to remove Pking from some maps / get rid of item drops... it's not our fault people go out of their way to pk you and also you don't want to risk your items because it's cost you plenty of £ to buy. if you farmed and made your own gear I'd atleast respect that comment more.
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[quote="MITCHY"]I don't see how you can want to remove Pking from some maps / get rid of item drops... it's not our fault people go out of their way to pk you and also you don't want to risk your items because it's cost you plenty of £ to buy. if you farmed and made your own gear I'd atleast respect that comment more.[/quote]
i like idea of second map for mags tho like abias but pking is part of the game tho shouldnt take that out
also im waiting on easter event and cap raise. :)))
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[quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]i like idea of second map for mags tho like abias but pking is part of the game tho shouldnt take that out also im waiting on easter event and cap raise. :)))[/quote]

 

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