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im washing up and cutting my hair tonight.. bought some new scissors ..im saying nothing.. enjoy ur evening ;p
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#46 2017/07/18 17:41:08 |
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VEIGAR |
"ACVX"im washing up and cutting my hair tonight.. bought some new scissors ..im saying nothing.. enjoy ur evening ;p I feel asif you are so stubborn you aren't looking at it from a point of view which isn't geared towards your goals, Look at it from a neutral point of view At the moment the only way to be able to pvp succesfully and on an even playing field (no upgrades included) you need 120+ dex (meele only) anything less and you have useless int you're never going to use because it's not high enough to hurt either, at the moment you either get high int or high dex why can't we get high str instead?
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[quote="VEIGAR"][quote="ACVX"]im washing up and cutting my hair tonight.. bought some new scissors ..im saying nothing.. enjoy ur evening ;p[/quote]
I feel asif you are so stubborn you aren't looking at it from a point of view which isn't geared towards your goals, Look at it from a neutral point of view At the moment the only way to be able to pvp succesfully and on an even playing field (no upgrades included) you need 120+ dex (meele only) anything less and you have useless int you're never going to use because it's not high enough to hurt either, at the moment you either get high int or high dex why can't we get high str instead? [/quote]
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#47 2017/07/18 17:46:20 |
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Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 ( for 12 months) and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str ..
Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too. Just have to wait. I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players. You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here
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[quote="THE7THSEAL"]Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 ( for 12 months) and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str ..
Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too.
Just have to wait.
I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players.
You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here[/quote]
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#48 2017/07/18 17:59:03 |
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VEIGAR |
"THE7THSEAL"Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str .. Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too. Just have to wait. I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players. You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here Ok you're lvl 98 i assume you don't want to do more int, atm you have less overall stats than the lvl 100's (who lvl'd the same route as you) what does it hurt for you to gain an extra 7 str or whatever in the next 2 levels to make up for the lack of int you have.
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[quote="VEIGAR"][quote="THE7THSEAL"]Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str .. Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too. Just have to wait. I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players. You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here[/quote]
Ok you're lvl 98 i assume you don't want to do more int, atm you have less overall stats than the lvl 100's (who lvl'd the same route as you) what does it hurt for you to gain an extra 7 str or whatever in the next 2 levels to make up for the lack of int you have.[/quote]
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#49 2017/07/18 18:01:21 |
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"VEIGAR""THE7THSEAL"Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str .. Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too. Just have to wait. I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players. You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here Won't do me any harm at all... 2 problems tho 1. blg are capped so u cant gain more than 171 str off them 2, if u increase that cap .. to say 190 str.. so any uncapped player can go above the current 171 str cap... theres gona be couple of hundred players claiming its unfair coz they havent had the chance to do the same as they are now lev 100 capped. Its about balance.. the rules have to be there ,,and cant be changed on a whim to benefit a few players and to the detriment of the many others
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="VEIGAR"][quote="THE7THSEAL"]Ive been replying..trying to be constructive.... this guy is lev 98 and waiting for cap+ so i can gain more than 171 str .. Whatever u think might need changing..there's hundreds of other players who would like changes too. Just have to wait. I maybe wrong i dunno..but i still think the current stat caps in place are for the benefit of the game and individual players. You need Gm's to answer ur query with teccie answers.. i just give my thoughts as to whats happening here[/quote]
Ok you're lvl 98 i assume you don't want to do more int, atm you have less overall stats than the lvl 100's (who lvl'd the same route as you) what does it hurt for you to gain an extra 7 str or whatever in the next 2 levels to make up for the lack of int you have.[/quote]
Won't do me any harm at all... 2 problems tho
1. blg are capped so u cant gain more than 171 str off them
2, if u increase that cap .. to say 190 str.. so any uncapped player can go above the current 171 str cap... theres gona be couple of hundred players claiming its unfair coz they havent had the chance to do the same as they are now lev 100 capped.
Its about balance.. the rules have to be there ,,and cant be changed on a whim to benefit a few players and to the detriment of the many others[/quote]
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#50 2017/07/18 20:09:46 |
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VEIGAR |
The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair?
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[quote="VEIGAR"]The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair?[/quote]
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#51 2017/07/18 21:20:38 |
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WAKKAA |
Couple of hundred lol
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#52 2017/07/19 12:09:10 |
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LUPISCUS |
"VEIGAR"The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="VEIGAR"]The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair
hmm mayb... my brain cant handle this complexity ;p
and messed up this qote too ![/quote]
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#53 2017/07/19 12:55:39 |
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VEIGAR |
"LUPISCUS""VEIGAR"The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair
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[quote="VEIGAR"][quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="VEIGAR"]The reason i suggested for cap raise was to stop the moaning a new monster after blg with no stat bonus but caps at a much higher str (unattainable str) would sort it, there's no stat bonus at cap raise so i fail to see how this could potentialy ruin a char or be unfair
hmm mayb... my brain cant handle this complexity ;p
and messed up this qote too ![/quote]
There's not much Complexity in it maybe it's the way i typed it up,
In the future (not sure at what level) All the -50 str mobs everyone hunted will be of no benefit... the reason being after the cap raise there will be NO stat bonus thus meaning everyone is gaining equally.
In dumbed down terms the 1st gen chars (hunted palus till 110 str, devil warrior untill 90 str ect) will be no different to the new chars (hunting blg from 90 str onwards ect) the reason being with no stat bonus the new chars will hit slow downs at earlier levels, lets use 2 examples:
Char A: 1st gen char pure bow 125 dex 124 str lvl 100
Char B: New char 140 dex 139 str
At lvl 108 Char B will gain 2 dex a level (not exact number)
At lvl 108 Char A will gain 5 dex a level (as above)
reason being Char B has hit the 140 Dex slow down
Char A has 15 dex until the 140 Dex slow down.
So regardless of any changes now it will be ironed out in the near future.
I also messed up my quote. lol[/quote]
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#54 2017/07/19 13:58:37 |
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only prob i see..is with no stat caps .. new character could go int mad or axe mad.... reach huge levels of str/ int and that would make for some crazy stat differences that might make pvp a bit crazy imbalanced or unworkable.... but thats just a hunch..cant put it into words
( look at rvr now ) might end up like that within human race too )
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]only prob i see..is with no stat caps .. new character could go int mad or axe mad.... reach huge levels of str/ int and that would make for some crazy stat differences that might make pvp a bit crazy imbalanced or unworkable.... but thats just a hunch..cant put it into words
( look at rvr now ) might end up like that within human race too )
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#55 2017/07/19 14:12:20 |
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Dex is overrated as is pure bow.
Doing a mix of spear / knuckle / sword / whatever is still viable for all builds unless the only build you want is 130 Dex and str cap. That build is overrated. And looking at Tyrone or Yoshimitsu you can get a very good char having never picked up a bow. Gisado got quite nice stats for an original char and he used a lot of sword. Lots of players use knuckle. I set a trend for very low Dex and high int and str chars, and a few have followed. That route is also viable. Think less about other people and more about what you want to do, all routes are viable.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Dex is overrated as is pure bow.
Doing a mix of spear / knuckle / sword / whatever is still viable for all builds unless the only build you want is 130 Dex and str cap. That build is overrated. And looking at Tyrone or Yoshimitsu you can get a very good char having never picked up a bow.
Gisado got quite nice stats for an original char and he used a lot of sword. Lots of players use knuckle.
I set a trend for very low Dex and high int and str chars, and a few have followed. That route is also viable.
Think less about other people and more about what you want to do, all routes are viable.[/quote]
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#56 2017/07/19 15:12:23 |
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"OPENTHEDOOR"Dex is overrated as is pure bow. No1 is saying that isnt the case.. the case for uncapped stats is being discussed
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Dex is overrated as is pure bow.
Doing a mix of spear / knuckle / sword / whatever is still viable for all builds unless the only build you want is 130 Dex and str cap. That build is overrated. And looking at Tyrone or Yoshimitsu you can get a very good char having never picked up a bow.
Gisado got quite nice stats for an original char and he used a lot of sword. Lots of players use knuckle.
I set a trend for very low Dex and high int and str chars, and a few have followed. That route is also viable.
Think less about other people and more about what you want to do, all routes are viable.[/quote]
No1 is saying that isnt the case.. the case for uncapped stats is being discussed[/quote]
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#57 2017/07/19 15:26:33 |
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VEIGAR |
"OPENTHEDOOR"Dex is overrated as is pure bow. I fully agree however the point i was making I can gain dex freely from lvl 1-100 but if i'm sword or spear i will have to stop using melee and do int at some point because the str cap restricts me being a pure warrior. 140 dex is way more powerful than 171 str 100-5 dex or whatever was my point, let me gain 190 str and 110 dex that 140 dex char won't shit on me anymore.
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[quote="VEIGAR"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Dex is overrated as is pure bow.
Doing a mix of spear / knuckle / sword / whatever is still viable for all builds unless the only build you want is 130 Dex and str cap. That build is overrated. And looking at Tyrone or Yoshimitsu you can get a very good char having never picked up a bow.
Gisado got quite nice stats for an original char and he used a lot of sword. Lots of players use knuckle.
I set a trend for very low Dex and high int and str chars, and a few have followed. That route is also viable.
Think less about other people and more about what you want to do, all routes are viable.[/quote]
I fully agree however the point i was making I can gain dex freely from lvl 1-100 but if i'm sword or spear i will have to stop using melee and do int at some point because the str cap restricts me being a pure warrior.
140 dex is way more powerful than 171 str 100-5 dex or whatever was my point, let me gain 190 str and 110 dex that 140 dex char won't shit on me anymore.[/quote]
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#58 2017/07/19 19:16:11 |
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potency of magic decrease after range 2 same with archers. and lower accuracy of archer above range 2. should solve alot of problems
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#59 2017/07/19 20:20:06 |
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Won't solve anything, all it will do is make archers not pvp at all. All these nerfs on archers are killing pvp. No one wants to use range 1 weps for pvp, same as mages. They don't want to get stoned and banged If you wana kill the game and what's left of pvp then keep nerfing archers, it's that simple.
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[quote="LEONARDO"]Won't solve anything, all it will do is make archers not pvp at all. All these nerfs on archers are killing pvp. No one wants to use range 1 weps for pvp, same as mages. They don't want to get stoned and banged If you wana kill the game and what's left of pvp then keep nerfing archers, it's that simple.[/quote]
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