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Jan 13th - s0rcerer
00:40 Devil Helm M (hardened) Devil Helm F (hardened) Horned Helm (rare) Axe of Oblivion (intense) COST: Aprx 60,000 barr (Lazarus healing) Two intense weapons in a row... Not making my argument look good! Still, doesn't detract from my point - keep in mind the number of times i've killed this fat bird bastard!
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Jan 13th - s0rcerer
00:40
Devil Helm M (hardened)
Devil Helm F (hardened)
Horned Helm (rare)
Axe of Oblivion (intense)
COST: Aprx 60,000 barr (Lazarus healing)
Two intense weapons in a row... Not making my argument look good!
Still, doesn't detract from my point - keep in mind the number of times i've killed this fat bird bastard![/quote]
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#31 2014/01/13 00:47:15 |
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NEOXIAN |
Looks to me like a silent buff has maybe gone too far the other way lol. Don't give that sword to carnage lol
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#32 2014/01/13 07:37:42 |
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S0RCERER |
Dan's not said anything about a buff to Shironim.
Besides, high droprate on epic/intense is not what the solution is, it's just remove junk items and give it a unique dropfile to make him more like a boss than a glorified Kharil Lizard. |
#33 2014/01/13 09:06:39 |
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Jan 13th - s0rcerer
14:01 Devil Helm F (untag) Spear of Bloodthirst (untag) 2033 barr COST: Aprx 15,000 barr (Lazarus healing) |
#34 2014/01/13 14:51:41 |
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TRICEPTIMOUS |
I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours?
In comparison to other boss' this is a vastly shorter respawn period. If the junk was removed, there will be a vast increase of the amount of end game weapons, rendering the game "too easy".
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[quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours?
In comparison to other boss' this is a vastly shorter respawn period. If the junk was removed, there will be a vast increase of the amount of end game weapons, rendering the game "too easy". [/quote]
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#35 2014/01/13 15:42:27 |
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"TRICEPTIMOUS"I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours? Which is why he has suggested a removal of the helms as well as a simultanious change in either a) drop rate reduction or b) an increase in spawn time. Also if I'm not mistaken this is the only boss worth farming for items (excluding boss souls).
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours?
In comparison to other boss' this is a vastly shorter respawn period. If the junk was removed, there will be a vast increase of the amount of end game weapons, rendering the game "too easy". [/quote]
Which is why he has suggested a removal of the helms as well as a simultanious change in either a) drop rate reduction or b) an increase in spawn time.
Also if I'm not mistaken this is the only boss worth farming for items (excluding boss souls).
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#36 2014/01/13 15:52:54 |
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"TRICEPTIMOUS"I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours? Having taken the time to write a "response" how about read the thread? Your question has been answered several times... You asked pretty much the EXACT same thing Gilgamesh did, among others.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="TRICEPTIMOUS"]I kind of dont get what your trying to achieve. Your complaining about the drops of a monster that has a respawn time of like 13 hours?
In comparison to other boss' this is a vastly shorter respawn period. If the junk was removed, there will be a vast increase of the amount of end game weapons, rendering the game "too easy". [/quote]
Having taken the time to write a "response" how about read the thread?
Your question has been answered several times...
You asked pretty much the EXACT same thing Gilgamesh did, among others.[/quote]
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#37 2014/01/13 16:01:26 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Not changed shironim at all.
Keep in mind Shironim spawns every 18000 seconds that's certainly a lot more than any other boss (every 5 hours). |
#38 2014/01/13 20:47:32 |
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"ISYLVER"Not changed shironim at all. Again Dan, the whole point in the thread: Increase spawn timer, give him unique loot to make him more of a boss, rather than a glorified Kharil Lizard. And yeah, I didn't think you did make any change(s), just a streak of luck after a huge number of fruitless kills :p
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="ISYLVER"]Not changed shironim at all.
Keep in mind Shironim spawns every 18000 seconds that's certainly a lot more than any other boss.[/quote]
Again Dan, the whole point in the thread:
Increase spawn timer, give him unique loot to make him more of a boss, rather than a glorified Kharil Lizard.
And yeah, I didn't think you did make any change(s), just a streak of luck after a huge number of fruitless kills :p[/quote]
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#39 2014/01/13 20:49:32 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
The issue is by improving the spawn time it will make it certainly harder for new mages to gain weaken no?
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#40 2014/01/13 20:50:18 |
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ISYLVER [Staff] |
Also I've just checked this shironim has more chance of dropping any item than any other shironim.
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#41 2014/01/13 20:51:21 |
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"ISYLVER"The issue is by improving the spawn time it will make it certainly harder for new mages to gain weaken no? Ah yes, very good point. Could simply make another Dsoma mage boss? Like Hartman. We do have far less bosses to look forward to than Hsoma, perhaps why our bosses spawn more frequently.
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[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="ISYLVER"]The issue is by improving the spawn time it will make it certainly harder for new mages to gain weaken no?[/quote]
Ah yes, very good point.
Could simply make another Dsoma mage boss? Like Hartman.
We do have far less bosses to look forward to than Hsoma, perhaps why our bosses spawn more frequently.[/quote]
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#42 2014/01/13 20:51:26 |
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No idea why this double-posted.
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#43 2014/01/13 20:52:10 |
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Possibly a dsoma hartman would be fine but itd need some suitable weapons/armour to drop that arent dropped by androctonus/blood akah etc.
Also for reference here's the dsoma shiro spawns look how much better the dungeon one already is ;o Dungeon shiro sSid sZone sMinX sMinY sMaxX sMaxY sNum sTableNum sRegenType sRegenTime sRegenEvent sGroup sGuild sGuildOpt sChat01 sChat02 sChat03 sMaxItemNum sItem01 sItem01Rand sItem02 sItem02Rand sItem03 sItem03Rand sItem04 sItem04Rand sItem05 sItem05Rand sItem06 sItem06Rand sItem07 sItem07Rand sItem08 sItem08Rand sItem09 sItem09Rand sItem10 sItem10Rand sItem11 sItem11Rand sItem12 sItem12Rand sItem13 sItem13Rand sItem14 sItem14Rand sItem15 sItem15Rand sEventNum sMoneyType sMoneyMin sMoneyMax 3030 21 5 639 23 639 1 2025 0 18000 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 3500 2728 3500 2753 3500 2761 3500 2736 3500 2769 3500 2530 3500 2528 3500 2524 3500 2526 3500 2543 3500 2546 3500 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 500 0 1000 5000 Others 3985 9 30 31 30 31 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000 3986 11 14 534 462 534 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000 3987 18 2 400 364 400 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000 Higher numbers = good.
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[quote="ISYLVER"]Possibly a dsoma hartman would be fine but itd need some suitable weapons/armour to drop that arent dropped by androctonus/blood akah etc.
Also for reference here's the dsoma shiro spawns look how much better the dungeon one already is ;o
Dungeon shiro
sSid sZone sMinX sMinY sMaxX sMaxY sNum sTableNum sRegenType sRegenTime sRegenEvent sGroup sGuild sGuildOpt sChat01 sChat02 sChat03 sMaxItemNum sItem01 sItem01Rand sItem02 sItem02Rand sItem03 sItem03Rand sItem04 sItem04Rand sItem05 sItem05Rand sItem06 sItem06Rand sItem07 sItem07Rand sItem08 sItem08Rand sItem09 sItem09Rand sItem10 sItem10Rand sItem11 sItem11Rand sItem12 sItem12Rand sItem13 sItem13Rand sItem14 sItem14Rand sItem15 sItem15Rand sEventNum sMoneyType sMoneyMin sMoneyMax
3030 21 5 639 23 639 1 2025 0 18000 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 3500 2728 3500 2753 3500 2761 3500 2736 3500 2769 3500 2530 3500 2528 3500 2524 3500 2526 3500 2543 3500 2546 3500 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 500 0 1000 5000
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3985 9 30 31 30 31 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000
3986 11 14 534 462 534 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000
3987 18 2 400 364 400 1 2025 1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 2712 1250 2728 1250 2753 1250 2761 1250 2736 1250 2769 1250 2530 1250 2528 1250 2524 1250 2526 1250 2543 1250 2546 1250 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 0 1000 5000
Higher numbers = good.[/quote]
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#44 2014/01/13 20:55:50 |
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S0RCERER |
Ghost has asked an number of devils to put forth ideas, i'll channel them through him and pass onto you.
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#45 2014/01/13 21:00:31 |
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