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[quote="S0RCERER"]This boss has become a joke. Usually, i'm quite reserved when it comes to asking for a change but this boss really must. For close to 100k per kill, the fat bird bastard drops are horrible. I was told that he has a higher chance to drop tagged items than regular monsters, but this doesn't appear to be the case in practice. I've killed him upwards of 50 times and considering he drops up to 8 items in 1 go, i've had a whopping 2 epics from the tight fisted git. Salt in the wounds? One of those 2 items was an Epic Close Helm (Something that's equal to an untag devil helm). Please make this boss relevant to kill - Nobody is asking for free Epics, i've spent millions of barr on this waste of time thus far and it's starting to irritate me how futile it seems to be to kill him. What i'd like him to drop? His dropfile doesn't need much changing... Make him drop more barr for starters, Pamoth in Pandy drops more barr than this guy, at least it will soften the blow for how horrible rare decent items are to get from him. Secondly, remove Horned and Close helms from him, again, for how rare a good item is from him, it's infuriating when that first epic he drops after a good couple dozen kills is a Close Helm... In fact, just remove all items apart from weapons from his dropfile. Give him a chance to drop Mind aid, Soul Shield and Demon Bracelet - currently there is no mage-friendly monster or boss that drops mage items... You can fix it with this addition. I'm not asking for an increased droprate, but it would be nice if you could look into if you accidentally reduced his dropchance of tagged items by 10% rather than increasing it. Simple mistake to make and it sure as hell feels like lower than 'normal'. Of all epic weapons ingame, I think ONE of them came from Shironim, every other weapon has come from Kharil Lizards or Altered Beasts... Shironim doesn't feel "boss like" when you kill him. Thanks for reading.[/quote]

[quote="SLAYER"]Shironim has been next to pointless for a long time now and on several occasions this has been mentioned. Big changes are needed!![/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]Think i'll start posting what loot I get to show just how stupid the situation with bad-lood-bird is. Jan 7th - s0rcerer 09:09 Horned Helm (untag) Devil helm F (untag) Axe of Oblivion (untag) Knuckle of Devastation (untag) 1147 barr COST: Aprx 85,000 barr[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]Jan 7th - Rehlina 17:24 Devil Helm M (untag) Devil Helm F (untag) Sword of Darkness (untag) Staff of Shadows (hardened) Axe of Oblivion (rare) 1k barr COST: Aprx 260,000 barr[/quote]

[quote="LAZARUS"]Maybe the amount of items dropped could be lowered to 2~4 in exchange for better tagged drops with guaranteed hardening.[/quote]

[quote="REHLINA"]my drops probly how it should be, 1 decent item, but that doesn't happen that often, tends to be s0rc drop a lot more often done it easily 10+ times and that's first time iv had a decent drop[/quote]

[quote="GANDALF"]shiro spawns how often? i see you killing it on a daily basis... hsoma shiro spawns once every 4+ days, and with the amount of reboots ingame you can imagine how often it has been killed is under 10 (Wouldnt count the 3 Gm spawned 1s i've been to) and we have a great total of three shiro wands ingame none above Rare tag... so when i see devil's moaning (it's a moan thread) about how they havent got elite drops from shiro every time i laugh you don't need them to be common each character only needs ONE and then your fully equipped wep wise the rest of your life. as your thread points out you already have lots of other monsters that also have a drop chance, you just know killing shiro your garunteed a wep drop with an opportunity to have a tag (which sounds great to a hsoma mage) that can only get to a shiro spawn if i sit online 24/7 to hope he spawns before a reboot happens which with work is impossible so i rely on GM events to then compete against 20+ people for the possibility of a wand... an i cant have the luxury of hunting mobs as i level to have even a low chance they drop. devil boss spawns are on easy mode, if Shiro drop chance gets a increase i expect it on a similar timer to that of hsoma bosses of 4+ days **slightly unrelated** to kill shiro we need 3-4 people healers damage dealers slowers etc, your soloing a boss, i think if you want the boss to be dropping more tagged it should require a larger group of players to kill, otherwise it's easy moding you weps (you probably don't agree) but we have very few end game weapons on hsoma ( nobody can even use HH/Stinger) and devil's are all in there end game gear already /gandalf [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]I would revel at Shironim being a 4 day spawn that actually dropped something of Value. At least Hsoma shironim has worth loot when you kill the thing. Loot that is exclusive to the boss. At present, all loot aside Serp Shields are dropping with higher frequency from regular hunting monsters. You fail to understand the principle of the post: I can spend 5~10mill barr on 100+ kills and not have a single good item drop. OR Have it spawn every 4 days, cost me 80~100k to kill and I get a good item drop.[/quote]

[quote="YOSHIMITSU"]I agree to a certain extent with both of you, the boss is easy mode for weps if you can solo it. However you've killed it so many times with shit drops, the shite drops should be removed and barr/PP added (Dont know of any other items in dsoma that are worth while ;p)[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]Jan 8th - s0rcerer 09:06 Devil Helm M (untag) Close Helm (rare) COST: Aprx 10,000 barr (Ibex healing) A close helm, which drops commonly from the surrounding EGF and an untag Devil helm which is a common drop from WBM. Not even barr to make the time worthwhile.[/quote]

[quote="REHLINA"]Do you realize, all end game devil weaps are easy to get from some one As a devil that's not enough tho, where constantly aiming for a chance at that intense There's not enough items in devil soma for us to want anything else but intense gear, poison plants are easy to get, just have to go low lvl mob for a little As a mage shiro is the only mob that drops weapons, iv never had drop any epic weapons wilst iv leveled ALL none tags,hardened and low end rare that have dropped from shiro which included Horned helm Devil helm m devil helm m devil helm f KoD AoO SoD SoS have been npced as they are classed as trash so out of 2 shiros that have been listed 1 item from about 400k spent, even a rare isn't worth that much horned/closed need removing, even a epic drop just annoys as there quite common from other mobs Also there have been no devil thread on these forums selling 50+ weapons[/quote]

[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="REHLINA"]Do you realize, all devil weaps are easy to get. [/quote] I'd like to change this to all top weapons, since mid level weapons are still more quite rare compared to HSoma.[/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"]In response to Gandalf and the comment: "to kill shiro we need 3-4 people healers damage dealers slowers etc, your soloing a boss, i think if you want the boss to be dropping more tagged it should require a larger group of players to kill, otherwise it's easy moding you weps" This here displays your ignorance on the subject. I've no intention to cause offence by saying this, but if we're to compare apples to apples (or plums to plums), Plum has near-identical magic attack as me, yet about 20~30 more magic defence. Please explain how someone with more magic defence and similar/same magic attack requires a group of 3~4 people. Surely he'd be in a better position to solo it than I? Monster and Myself are the only two mages on Dsoma who can 'comfortably' solo Shironim and by Hsoma INT standards, you'd have to compare us to Plum.[/quote]

[quote="REHLINA"]Let me finish editing lol , Ye talking about end weaps, mid range are frustrating to get [/quote]

[quote="S0RCERER"][quote="REHLINA"]Do you realize, all end game devil weaps are easy to get.[/quote] Until I was able to kill Shironim, this wasn't the case - every single weapon I ever had whilst I was leveling, I had to buy from someone, or was given it. There's no monster on a mage's leveling route, nor any suitable mage monster that drops weapons. [/quote]