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The Myth of Soma Podcast - Episode 4

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guys leave pking alone - let people grief others - make it a tough game - please don't turn it carebareish

I hated getting griefed by Eternal_E when i was a noob on hsoma - or with his dsoma Tearz when I started dsoma but It made me wanna get better.
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[quote="EVIJU"]guys leave pking alone - let people grief others - make it a tough game - please don't turn it carebareish I hated getting griefed by Eternal_E when i was a noob on hsoma - or with his dsoma Tearz when I started dsoma but It made me wanna get better.[/quote]
I kind of agree with this Eviju. From what I gather, if you stay a neutral player and not get involved in the PK wars you won't be PKd.

If you don't want to be PKd, don't join one of the main PK guilds or PK others, don't talk shit to each other, play the role of a peaceful person. Yeah even the peaceful people will probably get PKd every now again but the more you PK and talk shit to each other the more you make yourself a target.

PKing always was a massive part of esoma. I remember standing around the graveyard with all the PKers finding it interesting but praying no one killed me haha. Just like real life, live by the sword die by the sword.

I don't think it should be changed really. Accept that this specific character you've made is now known as a PKer/PKee. Start a new character, don't tell people it's you and play the part of a peaceful person if you don't want to be PKd any more.
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[quote="HOUNDEYE"]I kind of agree with this Eviju. From what I gather, if you stay a neutral player and not get involved in the PK wars you won't be PKd. If you don't want to be PKd, don't join one of the main PK guilds or PK others, don't talk shit to each other, play the role of a peaceful person. Yeah even the peaceful people will probably get PKd every now again but the more you PK and talk shit to each other the more you make yourself a target. PKing always was a massive part of esoma. I remember standing around the graveyard with all the PKers finding it interesting but praying no one killed me haha. Just like real life, live by the sword die by the sword. I don't think it should be changed really. Accept that this specific character you've made is now known as a PKer/PKee. Start a new character, don't tell people it's you and play the part of a peaceful person if you don't want to be PKd any more.[/quote]
That sounds good in theory hound..... but u get pkd by helpin the 'wrong guild' at gvw. You can be a peaceful player and attack no1.....but if u help the 'wrong guild' ...4-5-6 of them come to pk u.......... thats a bit sad, but true

( pm's like ''you should have joined us when u was told to'') oh dear
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]That sounds good in theory hound..... but u get pkd by helpin the 'wrong guild' at gvw. You can be a peaceful player and attack no1.....but if u help the 'wrong guild' ...4-5-6 of them come to pk u.......... thats a bit sad, but true ( pm's like ''you should have joined us when u was told to'') oh dear[/quote]
Oh really I didn't know that. Obviously I'm still pretty new back to it so don't fully understand the dynamics. I have definitely noticed a lot of toxicity between players on here.

I noticed on the podcast there being dislikes on the video. I can only imagine that's people who don't like sub and Cupid just doing it because they don't like them. I personally think that even if you don't like them we should all be liking the videos to try to get them out to new or even old esoma players. Try to get the user count as big as possible.
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[quote="HOUNDEYE"]Oh really I didn't know that. Obviously I'm still pretty new back to it so don't fully understand the dynamics. I have definitely noticed a lot of toxicity between players on here. I noticed on the podcast there being dislikes on the video. I can only imagine that's people who don't like sub and Cupid just doing it because they don't like them. I personally think that even if you don't like them we should all be liking the videos to try to get them out to new or even old esoma players. Try to get the user count as big as possible.[/quote]
dont help the wrong guild?
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[quote="EVIJU"]dont help the wrong guild? [/quote]
GVW AND GUILD SIZE:

Remove % system and take it back to the old days imo and increase the guild size to 40-50 and posibly increase the size of how many people that can have POS/TRACE
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[quote="KYUSS"]GVW AND GUILD SIZE: Remove % system and take it back to the old days imo and increase the guild size to 40-50 and posibly increase the size of how many people that can have POS/TRACE[/quote]
Surely to impliment your own ideas cupid/subxero you should try n lead by example and not the “you done this to me so ill just 180 on my own selfrightious suggestions” because this makes you look kinda silly tbh. Lead by example vk lead by example.
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[quote="PURIEL"]Surely to impliment your own ideas cupid/subxero you should try n lead by example and not the “you done this to me so ill just 180 on my own selfrightious suggestions” because this makes you look kinda silly tbh. Lead by example vk lead by example. [/quote]
we all loved soma for a reason - the pking is the best aspect of the game - getting an item from someone is so rewarding after pking them. maybe make resi scrolls more expensive - so it goes up with inflation cause if so many millions of barr are around make resi scrolls harder to obtain?
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[quote="EVIJU"]we all loved soma for a reason - the pking is the best aspect of the game - getting an item from someone is so rewarding after pking them. maybe make resi scrolls more expensive - so it goes up with inflation cause if so many millions of barr are around make resi scrolls harder to obtain?[/quote]




PKing always was a massive part of esoma. I remember standing around the graveyard with all the PKers finding it interesting but praying no one killed me haha. Just like real life, live by the sword die by the sword.

I remember that also lol
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[quote="SONOFSAM"] PKing always was a massive part of esoma. I remember standing around the graveyard with all the PKers finding it interesting but praying no one killed me haha. Just like real life, live by the sword die by the sword. I remember that also lol [/quote]
"JACKELPUP"
"FLAWLESS"Boss spawns and general hunting grounds are treated differently Jackel, I think that’s what you are missing?



By who's standard?

The principal and game play are identical to the ethos suggested and preached.

I arrived confident there would be no problem. Even after I was dropped I still thought there would be no problem (a token kill I thought) after having just listened to the very same person broadcast as such.

Was the podcast disingenuous or is this now a "work-around" of the self-imposed rules?

If we are going to say PKing is ok (that's the game anyway, right?) then just say that. If you want to say PKing is not ok then it is reasonable to expect people to stick to the rules of their suggestions without making "special exemptions" to suit themselves.

Jac



So you picked a side whos known for pking at bosses all the time and your whining saying about being pked when you got pked by dl for years now your with them???? 😧

They spoke about pking spawn to spawn while leveling up guess you didnt listen 😂

Also guess what else you can do to not die :o
SpoilerShow
Level up!



Or wait for it.... You ready?😯
SpoilerShow
Dont join the guild who non stopped pking you and join a neutruel guild like espada or arcanix


See im a genius
Bet you never thought about that...
😂😂

Now we got little keyboard warriors saying the podcasts useless yet most people agree its less drama? -.-

As for people like happyjuice nobody asked you to watch the podcast let alone have your opinon tbh your the mug wasting your own time watching something you find useless yet find all the time in the world to hate on it


Its beyond me how people dont get that soma is a small community like im one of the youngest players here yet all i see is childish bollocks like that.

atleast cupid and matty are putting in work trying to get everyones opinons across to improve the game for everybody elses benefit
And for that im greatful ^_^



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[quote="TRAPKING"][quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="FLAWLESS"]Boss spawns and general hunting grounds are treated differently Jackel, I think that’s what you are missing?[/quote] By who's standard? The principal and game play are identical to the ethos suggested and preached. I arrived confident there would be no problem. Even after I was dropped I still thought there would be no problem (a token kill I thought) after having just listened to the very same person broadcast as such. Was the podcast disingenuous or is this now a "work-around" of the self-imposed rules? If we are going to say PKing is ok (that's the game anyway, right?) then just say that. If you want to say PKing is not ok then it is reasonable to expect people to stick to the rules of their suggestions without making "special exemptions" to suit themselves. Jac [/quote] So you picked a side whos known for pking at bosses all the time and your whining saying about being pked when you got pked by dl for years now your with them???? 😧 They spoke about pking spawn to spawn while leveling up guess you didnt listen 😂 Also guess what else you can do to not die :o[spoiler]Level up![/spoiler] Or wait for it.... You ready?😯[spoiler]Dont join the guild who non stopped pking you and join a neutruel guild like espada or arcanix[/spoiler] See im a genius Bet you never thought about that... 😂😂 Now we got little keyboard warriors saying the podcasts useless yet most people agree its less drama? -.- As for people like happyjuice nobody asked you to watch the podcast let alone have your opinon tbh your the mug wasting your own time watching something you find useless yet find all the time in the world to hate on it Its beyond me how people dont get that soma is a small community like im one of the youngest players here yet all i see is childish bollocks like that. atleast cupid and matty are putting in work trying to get everyones opinons across to improve the game for everybody elses benefit And for that im greatful ^_^ [/quote]
Indra honestly shut the fuck up you idiot please ty
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[quote="RIN"]Indra honestly shut the fuck up you idiot please ty[/quote]
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This is getting out of hand now.....
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[quote="TYRESE"]This is getting out of hand now..... [/quote]
"TRAPKING"
"JACKELPUP"
"FLAWLESS"Boss spawns and general hunting grounds are treated differently Jackel, I think that’s what you are missing?



By who's standard?

The principal and game play are identical to the ethos suggested and preached.

I arrived confident there would be no problem. Even after I was dropped I still thought there would be no problem (a token kill I thought) after having just listened to the very same person broadcast as such.

Was the podcast disingenuous or is this now a "work-around" of the self-imposed rules?

If we are going to say PKing is ok (that's the game anyway, right?) then just say that. If you want to say PKing is not ok then it is reasonable to expect people to stick to the rules of their suggestions without making "special exemptions" to suit themselves.

Jac



So you picked a side whos known for pking at bosses all the time and your whining saying about being pked when you got pked by dl for years now your with them???? 😧

They spoke about pking spawn to spawn while leveling up guess you didnt listen 😂

Also guess what else you can do to not die :o
SpoilerShow
Level up!



Or wait for it.... You ready?😯
SpoilerShow
Dont join the guild who non stopped pking you and join a neutruel guild like espada or arcanix


See im a genius
Bet you never thought about that...
😂😂

Now we got little keyboard warriors saying the podcasts useless yet most people agree its less drama? -.-

As for people like happyjuice nobody asked you to watch the podcast let alone have your opinon tbh your the mug wasting your own time watching something you find useless yet find all the time in the world to hate on it


Its beyond me how people dont get that soma is a small community like im one of the youngest players here yet all i see is childish bollocks like that.

atleast cupid and matty are putting in work trying to get everyones opinons across to improve the game for everybody elses benefit
And for that im greatful ^_^





Well well well am I now to assume that jackelpup hasn't capped? Secondly are there just four guilds on this server? Thirdly I recall you whining to me in pm about one of my guild members pking your noob you seem to think now your all that because you are in vk shame really seeing as you tell others that your guild will avenger your deaths.Also Indra I suggest you read both threads.

Btw everyone needs to remember two wrongs don't make a right
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[quote="LINNYI"][quote="TRAPKING"][quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="FLAWLESS"]Boss spawns and general hunting grounds are treated differently Jackel, I think that’s what you are missing?[/quote] By who's standard? The principal and game play are identical to the ethos suggested and preached. I arrived confident there would be no problem. Even after I was dropped I still thought there would be no problem (a token kill I thought) after having just listened to the very same person broadcast as such. Was the podcast disingenuous or is this now a "work-around" of the self-imposed rules? If we are going to say PKing is ok (that's the game anyway, right?) then just say that. If you want to say PKing is not ok then it is reasonable to expect people to stick to the rules of their suggestions without making "special exemptions" to suit themselves. Jac [/quote] So you picked a side whos known for pking at bosses all the time and your whining saying about being pked when you got pked by dl for years now your with them???? 😧 They spoke about pking spawn to spawn while leveling up guess you didnt listen 😂 Also guess what else you can do to not die :o[spoiler]Level up![/spoiler] Or wait for it.... You ready?😯[spoiler]Dont join the guild who non stopped pking you and join a neutruel guild like espada or arcanix[/spoiler] See im a genius Bet you never thought about that... 😂😂 Now we got little keyboard warriors saying the podcasts useless yet most people agree its less drama? -.- As for people like happyjuice nobody asked you to watch the podcast let alone have your opinon tbh your the mug wasting your own time watching something you find useless yet find all the time in the world to hate on it Its beyond me how people dont get that soma is a small community like im one of the youngest players here yet all i see is childish bollocks like that. atleast cupid and matty are putting in work trying to get everyones opinons across to improve the game for everybody elses benefit And for that im greatful ^_^ [/quote] Well well well am I now to assume that jackelpup hasn't capped? Secondly are there just four guilds on this server? Thirdly I recall you whining to me in pm about one of my guild members pking your noob you seem to think now your all that because you are in vk shame really seeing as you tell others that your guild will avenger your deaths.Also Indra I suggest you read both threads. Btw everyone needs to remember two wrongs don't make a right [/quote]
Yet again a thread designed to be “positive and constructive” has turned to “flame and blame”.

I have seen it so many times and despaired (haven’t we all?).

This time, it is clear that I am the cause.

It was not my intention to derail the efforts made to improve the game and it was not my intention to downgrade quality of the thread to vitriol and bile.

I never intended that, I apologise.


For clarity, I found myself in an in-game environment which I perceived to be contrary to the wishes, suggestions and ethos of the podcasters and various other people involved (including the associated threads). Indeed, one or more of those persons were present. I am very aware of the DL vs VK but felt this was an issue outside of those parameters and firmly within “the new world” being created.

As usual, people (including me) only appear to see what we want to see and the usual guff manifests yet again in viral form. Nothing gets solved.

Let’s move on?


The podcasts serve multiple purposes;

1) They are fun
2) They are a platform to vent
3) They enable feedback on the game
4) They create seeds which can grow

In reality, it is unlikely there could be any “major” changes to the game as doing so would likely undermine the basic fabric of the gameplay. (It happened with private servers). It remains fun to talk about them and the draw of hope is also a powerful ally.

"HOUNDEYE"I noticed on the podcast there being dislikes on the video.


I have never liked that aspect of youtube. It creates a negative air and discourages people where the reverse should often be applied. I never click the “dislike” button (for anything) and I didn’t do on Podcast 4. I know it can be disabled by the video owner – perhaps Matty/Tom will do so?

Can we move away from personal attacks and focus on improving the game as we all perhaps should?

8)

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Yet again a thread designed to be “positive and constructive” has turned to “flame and blame”. I have seen it so many times and despaired (haven’t we all?). This time, it is clear that I am the cause. It was not my intention to derail the efforts made to improve the game and it was not my intention to downgrade quality of the thread to vitriol and bile. I never intended that, I apologise. For clarity, I found myself in an in-game environment which I perceived to be contrary to the wishes, suggestions and ethos of the podcasters and various other people involved (including the associated threads). Indeed, one or more of those persons were present. I am very aware of the DL vs VK but felt this was an issue outside of those parameters and firmly within “the new world” being created. As usual, people (including me) only appear to see what we want to see and the usual guff manifests yet again in viral form. Nothing gets solved. Let’s move on? The podcasts serve multiple purposes; 1) They are fun 2) They are a platform to vent 3) They enable feedback on the game 4) They create seeds which can grow In reality, it is unlikely there could be any “major” changes to the game as doing so would likely undermine the basic fabric of the gameplay. (It happened with private servers). It remains fun to talk about them and the draw of hope is also a powerful ally. [quote="HOUNDEYE"]I noticed on the podcast there being dislikes on the video.[/quote] I have never liked that aspect of youtube. It creates a negative air and discourages people where the reverse should often be applied. I never click the “dislike” button (for anything) and I didn’t do on Podcast 4. I know it can be disabled by the video owner – perhaps Matty/Tom will do so? Can we move away from personal attacks and focus on improving the game as we all perhaps should? 8) Jac [/quote]

 

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