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WoTW 15/02/2018

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shailo

I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira.


2 hit and 4th* compaired to ganon/rin/Rocky/Ala who can almost 1 hit me with weaken on, and have range over me and can zombie me and stone me

(99 wis)

O and there all lower level than me
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][Quote=shailo] I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira. [/quote] 2 hit and 4th* compaired to ganon/rin/Rocky/Ala who can almost 1 hit me with weaken on, and have range over me and can zombie me and stone me (99 wis) O and there all lower level than me[/quote]
"SHAILO"
"ERDEKA"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again.


A few points:
- It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama.
- Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma.
- To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.


As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?


Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.


Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :)

you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.


I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira.


So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="SHAILO"][quote="ERDEKA"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"]My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again. [/quote] A few points: - It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama. - Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma. - To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. [/quote] As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?[/quote] Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.[/quote] Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :) you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.[/quote] I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira. [/quote] So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.[/quote]
"SLAYER"
"SHAILO"
"ERDEKA"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again.


A few points:
- It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama.
- Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma.
- To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.


As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?


Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.


Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :)

you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.


I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira.


So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.


The point is someone with capped strength is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do?
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[quote="SCAMMER"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="SHAILO"][quote="ERDEKA"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"]My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again. [/quote] A few points: - It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama. - Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma. - To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. [/quote] As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?[/quote] Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.[/quote] Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :) you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.[/quote] I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira. [/quote] So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.[/quote] The point is someone with [b]capped strength[/b] is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do? [/quote]
Isylver has said humans weren't hurting devz enough please leave it up to him to decide the next steps none of these are suggestions just pointless arguments.
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[quote="TRILL"]Isylver has said humans weren't hurting devz enough please leave it up to him to decide the next steps none of these are suggestions just pointless arguments.[/quote]
you cant expect to kill devs with magic and melee when devs can only kill with melee.

fight melee devs with magic and magic devs with melee.
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[quote="ARYA_"]you cant expect to kill devs with magic and melee when devs can only kill with melee. fight melee devs with magic and magic devs with melee.[/quote]
"SCAMMER"

The point is someone with capped strength is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do?


i agree in a way, however

devils cant swop over to magic to attk a human melee char

devils attk is probly still to high

Human magic is to high

If a devil didn't 2/3 shot a human, then a melee devil would never get any kills, as each time the human would just move away and use there range, i spose the issue comes when archers can also 3/4 hit humans and they have range also

"TRILL"Isylver has said humans weren't hurting devz enough please leave it up to him to decide the next steps none of these are suggestions just pointless arguments.


this is because devils reset there stats and caped wis (magic def), this isn't something that is going to happen every week, cos it would take 6 days hunting purely for daily marks to be able to reset stats for wotw, then reset back for guild village war
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="SCAMMER"] The point is someone with [b]capped strength[/b] is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do? [/quote] i agree in a way, however devils cant swop over to magic to attk a human melee char devils attk is probly still to high Human magic is to high If a devil didn't 2/3 shot a human, then a melee devil would never get any kills, as each time the human would just move away and use there range, i spose the issue comes when archers can also 3/4 hit humans and they have range also [quote="TRILL"]Isylver has said humans weren't hurting devz enough please leave it up to him to decide the next steps none of these are suggestions just pointless arguments.[/quote] this is because devils reset there stats and caped wis (magic def), this isn't something that is going to happen every week, cos it would take 6 days hunting purely for daily marks to be able to reset stats for wotw, then reset back for guild village war[/quote]
Constructive post, anybody know whether or not the % system is based of attack, there was talk of this prepatch but I haven't seen anything mentioned post patch.
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[quote="ARYA_"]Constructive post, anybody know whether or not the % system is based of attack, there was talk of this prepatch but I haven't seen anything mentioned post patch.[/quote]
"SCAMMER"
"SLAYER"
"SHAILO"
"ERDEKA"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"
"THEMAT"
"KHASAV"My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again.


A few points:
- It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama.
- Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma.
- To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery.


As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?


Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.


Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :)

you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.


I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira.


So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.


The point is someone with capped strength is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do?


It's 3 hit and my point was I am capped with max stats for a dsoma archer and even with max def for a devil archer (give or take a for Def) she does the same to me...we die a lot easier to each other now in pvp...I just don't see how this is even a debate when we are weaker than we were pre patch by a fair bit, especially MD and our numbers vs hsoma is as low as ever...devils have and always will be out numbered, so you can't expect it to be fair in 1v1 or probably(?) even 2v1 in favour of humans. A gm would have to look at the number of devils turning up vs humans.

Percent system always sorts this in the end though and it got to the percentage it did for a reason.
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[quote="SLAYER"][quote="SCAMMER"][quote="SLAYER"][quote="SHAILO"][quote="ERDEKA"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"][quote="THEMAT"][quote="KHASAV"]My point is notmat that we have still lost for 2 months and you are asking for us to be nerfed? If we are the unstoppable force you claim us to be why have we been so easily stopped for 2 months? And even if you guys were buffed instead of us being nerfed we would never see conti again. [/quote] A few points: - It seems quite a few devils quit because of guild drama. - Some people that didn't like the stat system went to hsoma. - To be blunt, a lot of dsoma players couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. [/quote] As you say most past players now play human. So your solution to our lower numbers and your higher numbers is to nerf our stats to balance the war?[/quote] Yes because I don't see how humans getting 2-4 hit whilst devils are tanking humans with 200 int is remotely balanced.[/quote] Play mage 200 int 200 str and gear up as SHAILO :) you choose your path, you suffer your mistakes and % will justify it.[/quote] I was 2 hit and 2nd by jaheira. [/quote] So what....she nearly does the same to me...on 100% of my stats.[/quote] The point is someone with [b]capped strength[/b] is still getting 2 hit. That shouldn't even be allowed. As Erdeka said, "200str and 200int" - and if you still get 2 hit what more can you do? [/quote] It's 3 hit and my point was I am capped with max stats for a dsoma archer and even with max def for a devil archer (give or take a for Def) she does the same to me...we die a lot easier to each other now in pvp...I just don't see how this is even a debate when we are weaker than we were pre patch by a fair bit, especially MD and our numbers vs hsoma is as low as ever...devils have and always will be out numbered, so you can't expect it to be fair in 1v1 or probably(?) even 2v1 in favour of humans. A gm would have to look at the number of devils turning up vs humans. Percent system always sorts this in the end though and it got to the percentage it did for a reason.[/quote]
Zombie needs to go imo - ridiculous when you’re getting blasted by AoE spells you don’t even realise the animation is on you to be able to serum it off.
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[quote="SAL3M"]Zombie needs to go imo - ridiculous when you’re getting blasted by AoE spells you don’t even realise the animation is on you to be able to serum it off.[/quote]

 

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