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BRAINSTORM |
"ZELRIK""AFRO"240 str vs 229 str more than evens out when swords have bigger attack on them than spear. archer 213str 212dex 196con 133wis
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[quote="BRAINSTORM"][quote="ZELRIK"][quote="AFRO"]240 str vs 229 str more than evens out when swords have bigger attack on them than spear.
This is the physical attack of 2 capped spear/sword naked/just wearing an intense BT/SOD
Spear: 437-518 (IIRC the spear here had very good max but low min)
Sword: 436-519
I don't think you should not consider Spear - I just think Spear need to be viable again and would hope that some of my above suggestions can be taken into consideration.[/quote]
So based on that Spear and Sword are pretty much on par?
Only difference i can really see then is when the going gets tough the Sword can use a sword where as the spear obviously can not.
Unless there is something else that really splits them. Spear has 2nd and Sword as 5th which are there attacking auras
Both in theory have HP recovery auras.. Spear 3rd/5th and Sword 2nd
[quote="DOFLAMINGO"]You could argue sword hasn't got it great atm either... perhaps saved by it's big 5th aura and ability to wear a shield with a faster wep. I'd go for sword over spear though - they end up with very similar attack, more dex and can wear omni without sacrificing spec points for it.
Here's capped stats if you spec for melee:
Spear 240str 180dex 235con 99wis
Sword 229str 185dex 229con 111wis
You'll do better dps as a swordie.
Ultimately it depends on how you like to play.[/quote]
You dont happen to know Axers/Archer/Knuckle capped stats do you?
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archer 213str 212dex 196con 133wis[/quote]
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#16 2018/06/07 20:02:27 |
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HOLLOW |
"JAHEIRA"I agree with all the other spear users, I'm having to swop to accucy gear to fight the Dex class's, tho still dont hit enough this is the same for sword yes 5th hits hard but that's it that's all sword brings. Burst is good for helping get kills in a group and then it takes timing. Bow on the other hand is a power house atm none can hit them (out side of auras) and they can get kills solo with zombie pads and there are not many swords that can kill a bow out right (if any).
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[quote="HOLLOW"][quote="JAHEIRA"]I agree with all the other spear users, I'm having to swop to accucy gear to fight the Dex class's, tho still dont hit enough
Tho I will add that more levels (cap raise) will swing back into str class's favor, once the str difference is big enough , tho another 10 may not be enough[/quote]
this is the same for sword yes 5th hits hard but that's it that's all sword brings.
Burst is good for helping get kills in a group and then it takes timing.
Bow on the other hand is a power house atm none can hit them (out side of auras) and they can get kills solo with zombie pads and there are not many swords that can kill a bow out right (if any).
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#17 2018/06/08 09:46:03 |
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FRINGE |
dsoma was like this before. then they made a change and all classes were viable but bow users moaned because they couldnt kill an axer (kekket) on stone at gvw etc. then it changed again and now its all myth of bows dsoma side. hopefully they do something for you guys so that people actually play other classes more.
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[quote="FRINGE"]dsoma was like this before. then they made a change and all classes were viable but bow users moaned because they couldnt kill an axer (kekket) on stone at gvw etc. then it changed again and now its all myth of bows dsoma side. hopefully they do something for you guys so that people actually play other classes more.[/quote]
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#18 2018/06/09 11:16:36 |
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"FRINGE"dsoma was like this before. then they made a change and all classes were viable but bow users moaned because they couldnt kill an axer (kekket) on stone at gvw etc. then it changed again and now its all myth of bows dsoma side. hopefully they do something for you guys so that people actually play other classes more. Feel youve hit the nail on the head ALL classes need to be viable Axe needs to be tank but struggled to hit Sword need to do dmg but not amazing Spear need to be between axe and spear Bow needs to have the lowest overall dps due to high dex so able to always hit and has the chance of distance Knuckle needs to be after sword but not as dexy as bow
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[quote="ARILO"][quote="FRINGE"]dsoma was like this before. then they made a change and all classes were viable but bow users moaned because they couldnt kill an axer (kekket) on stone at gvw etc. then it changed again and now its all myth of bows dsoma side. hopefully they do something for you guys so that people actually play other classes more.[/quote]
Feel youve hit the nail on the head
ALL classes need to be viable
Axe needs to be tank but struggled to hit
Sword need to do dmg but not amazing
Spear need to be between axe and spear
Bow needs to have the lowest overall dps due to high dex so able to always hit and has the chance of distance
Knuckle needs to be after sword but not as dexy as bow[/quote]
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#19 2018/06/09 13:21:48 |
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CARNAGE |
Sounds exactly the same as the first year of the server on dsoma, mythofarcher.
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#20 2018/06/09 14:50:32 |
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COBRA_KAI |
Slap a decent acc set on a spear it's op archees get 3 slapped nay grief just a ball ake getting Ruby's unless u farm the lvl 14 quest witch ain't fun for no one, problem is most humans can 2 hit a lvl 110 spear with magic one hit if proc goes off so rvr pointless unless ur a sneaky greeky and ambush
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[quote="COBRA_KAI"]Slap a decent acc set on a spear it's op archees get 3 slapped nay grief just a ball ake getting Ruby's unless u farm the lvl 14 quest witch ain't fun for no one, problem is most humans can 2 hit a lvl 110 spear with magic one hit if proc goes off so rvr pointless unless ur a sneaky greeky and ambush [/quote]
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#21 2018/06/09 17:26:43 |
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DEIMOS |
Wb cobra where you been ;p
I know you just havent been the same since I took my acc back ;p |
#22 2018/06/09 19:17:51 |
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ZARRICK |
Its been a year since this post was made. Is spear is lacking compared to Sword DPS wise?
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#23 2019/08/20 14:18:03 |
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DR_EVIL |
No.
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#24 2019/08/20 14:18:34 |
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ZERO_SUGAR |
"ZARRICK"Its been a year since this post was made. Is spear is lacking compared to Sword DPS wise? spear is highest dps class at dsoma atm especially if you can make a nega spear |
#25 2019/08/20 14:32:08 |
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KAZOKU |
Sword lost out quite Bit by looks, started a sword first but the nega sword put me off, was hoping it was a 1hander
Tho before we can realy judge think the wis needs removing off nega weapons and more ppl to use them, only realy see spear and axe use |
#26 2019/08/20 16:24:10 |
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DR_EVIL |
Dsoma sword is in a bad state for sure.
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#27 2019/08/20 17:11:16 |
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SAL3M |
"DR_EVIL"Dsoma sword is in a bad state for sure. Definitely needs addressing - since the 110 patch basically polarised everything so that you are dexy as fuck, a tank or redundant sword naturally lost out being the 'middle' or 'balanced' class. Splitting Attk/Df into str and con rather than just str is also just a fundamental flaw in d soma. The Nega sword dmg also seems to be a joke from what I've seen but then d soma has much bigger problems than the state of sword anyway. If you want it to live then just up drops properly accounting for the lower UC so that people can gear and try different builds. If the issue is that Dan doesn't want devils in OP gear for RvR purposes then just tweak the % system to balance the improved gear and get d soma's economy out of the great depression it has been in for way over a year now.
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[quote="SAL3M"][quote="DR_EVIL"]Dsoma sword is in a bad state for sure.[/quote]
Definitely needs addressing - since the 110 patch basically polarised everything so that you are dexy as fuck, a tank or redundant sword naturally lost out being the 'middle' or 'balanced' class.
Splitting Attk/Df into str and con rather than just str is also just a fundamental flaw in d soma.
The Nega sword dmg also seems to be a joke from what I've seen but then d soma has much bigger problems than the state of sword anyway.
If you want it to live then just up drops properly accounting for the lower UC so that people can gear and try different builds. If the issue is that Dan doesn't want devils in OP gear for RvR purposes then just tweak the % system to balance the improved gear and get d soma's economy out of the great depression it has been in for way over a year now. [/quote]
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#28 2019/08/20 19:03:26 |
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DR_EVIL |
Spot on.
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#29 2019/08/20 19:19:55 |
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MERLIN |
+1 :)
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#30 2019/08/20 21:53:11 |
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