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"DEIMOS"Pretty sure Lupi was all for the dsoma rework and removing that 50 stat system, just so long as it doesnt affect your little world right?
And 0-110 in 9 weeks? I'm presuming you either have no work or sleep or life, has to be one of them cause that is serious hours per day


It doesn't matter how long it took him, Soma is a marathon, not a sprint, i've been levelling Cho since 2013 dude. Giving people fast access to lvl 110's and perfect stats will kill Soma...it's about the journey TO lv cap, just look at how many people go on a break when they cap because they get to the end and realise the fun bit is over.

Also if you remove bonuses, you have to either make all mobs give +50 bonus or all 0 bonus, so either new players will get HUGELY disadvantaged at no bonus all their way to cap...or every one will just make a new char and lvl at +50 bonus rates in a matter of months to lv 110 and people will still moan because the top players are still at the top...
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[quote="CHOJINE"][quote="DEIMOS"]Pretty sure Lupi was all for the dsoma rework and removing that 50 stat system, just so long as it doesnt affect your little world right? And 0-110 in 9 weeks? I'm presuming you either have no work or sleep or life, has to be one of them cause that is serious hours per day [/quote] It doesn't matter how long it took him, Soma is a marathon, not a sprint, i've been levelling Cho since 2013 dude. Giving people fast access to lvl 110's and perfect stats will kill Soma...it's about the journey TO lv cap, just look at how many people go on a break when they cap because they get to the end and realise the fun bit is over. Also if you remove bonuses, you have to either make all mobs give +50 bonus or all 0 bonus, so either new players will get HUGELY disadvantaged at no bonus all their way to cap...or every one will just make a new char and lvl at +50 bonus rates in a matter of months to lv 110 and people will still moan because the top players are still at the top...[/quote]
Possible what you’re saying is true Cho but it could also go another way - maybe we could get rid of the controversial 2 pk system @ 110 and it would stimulate PvP aspect of the game now there are loads of capped players with no stat disparity.

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[quote="SAL3M"]Possible what you’re saying is true Cho but it could also go another way - maybe we could get rid of the controversial 2 pk system @ 110 and it would stimulate PvP aspect of the game now there are loads of capped players with no stat disparity. [/quote]
"DEIMOS"Pretty sure Lupi was all for the dsoma rework and removing that 50 stat system, just so long as it doesnt affect your little world right?
And 0-110 in 9 weeks? I'm presuming you either have no work or sleep or life, has to be one of them cause that is serious hours per day


I never have or professed to kno anything bout dsoma.. i was neither pro or anti the dsoma change.

I have no job and put serious hours in..but usually sleep 7-8 hours a night..and ye..atm my life is soma ...so.... 1-110 is quite possible quickly x
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="DEIMOS"]Pretty sure Lupi was all for the dsoma rework and removing that 50 stat system, just so long as it doesnt affect your little world right? And 0-110 in 9 weeks? I'm presuming you either have no work or sleep or life, has to be one of them cause that is serious hours per day [/quote] I never have or professed to kno anything bout dsoma.. i was neither pro or anti the dsoma change. I have no job and put serious hours in..but usually sleep 7-8 hours a night..and ye..atm my life is soma ...so.... 1-110 is quite possible quickly x[/quote]
Chojine +1


"CHOJINE"
..... Giving people fast access to lvl 110's and perfect stats will kill Soma...it's about the journey TO lv cap, just look at how many people go on a break when they cap because they get to the end and realise the fun bit is over.



.... and then they ask for Father Christmas.


Please think it through guys, the proposals will be detrimental to the disparity that exists between players and will damage the Soma economy.

8(

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]Chojine +1 [quote="CHOJINE"] ..... Giving people fast access to lvl 110's and perfect stats will kill Soma...it's about the journey TO lv cap, just look at how many people go on a break when they cap because they get to the end and realise the fun bit is over.[/quote] .... and then they ask for Father Christmas. Please think it through guys, the proposals will be detrimental to the disparity that exists between players and will damage the Soma economy. 8( Jac[/quote]
As a "real" example to try to help the understanding ....

Magmas were brought in precisely because of a reason like this - "demand" from players reaching the end of their journeys. When they appeared they were hailed as marvellous.

Look now - how many times have they been criticised for not dropping enough or the right things?

Most of us (I include myself) still can't hunt them at all.

.... See the problem?

8(

Jac
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[quote="JACKELPUP"]As a "real" example to try to help the understanding .... Magmas were brought in precisely because of a reason like this - "demand" from players reaching the end of their journeys. When they appeared they were hailed as marvellous. Look now - how many times have they been criticised for not dropping enough or the right things? Most of us (I include myself) still can't hunt them at all. .... See the problem? 8( Jac[/quote]
Why cant you hunt them Jac? :o
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[quote="FOXTRCK"]Why cant you hunt them Jac? :o[/quote]
Dont mistake me, I dont believe it should be any faster, it is already remarkably quick, just the reason I quit hsoma by lvl 50 and went dsoma was because of the bonus system and the 'wasted' stats, also was nuk and sword as qasnt aware that bow/axe was the only way to go for max gains,
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Dont mistake me, I dont believe it should be any faster, it is already remarkably quick, just the reason I quit hsoma by lvl 50 and went dsoma was because of the bonus system and the 'wasted' stats, also was nuk and sword as qasnt aware that bow/axe was the only way to go for max gains, [/quote]
"DEIMOS"Dont mistake me, I dont believe it should be any faster, it is already remarkably quick, just the reason I quit hsoma by lvl 50 and went dsoma was because of the bonus system and the 'wasted' stats, also was nuk and sword as qasnt aware that bow/axe was the only way to go for max gains,


Knuckle and Int brother, knuckle and Int :P
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[quote="CHOJINE"][quote="DEIMOS"]Dont mistake me, I dont believe it should be any faster, it is already remarkably quick, just the reason I quit hsoma by lvl 50 and went dsoma was because of the bonus system and the 'wasted' stats, also was nuk and sword as qasnt aware that bow/axe was the only way to go for max gains, [/quote] Knuckle and Int brother, knuckle and Int :P[/quote]
Lupi, I mean 0 offense so please take none but in my opinion the fact you can get to level 110 in 9 weeks is the reason we shouldn't take your suggestions on board in this thread specifically trying to target the lower levels and more than likely the guys whom have less time on their hands, I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind, am i happy at the moment? absolutely as Chojine said it's the journey and mine is one I enjoy I do wish I could get involved with pvp, although i'm fully understanding I haven't put the hours in yet.

As to the drops I'm all for it maybe add a lesser PoD (for mages) to noob mobs it would be awesome if i could get some stuff like that and waiting 6 days for conti to get my wizard set was a ball ache, without a tank I couldn't take wraith in a 14 int set haha, wraiths drop file isn't THAT bad with chances of devils blood ect but Lich lord may aswell be redundant and druid/gazer/evil bric is even worse, once you hit the 38 str armour bought from merc or conti you literally struggle like crazy to get armour or sit around waiting for a crafter to make you a scaled set and banded and so on.

The +50 stat thing is annoying I'm not exactly against it but I see no real value to it? Like it literally benefits the extreme players and everyone else is sub par because they don't have the time/tank/upgrades to do it, again Lupi said it's "Easy" to knock up a lvl 100, yes lupi with the gear you have i'm sure it is but for me who's barely able to afford pot runs it ain't so easy.
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[quote="SHAMAN"]Lupi, I mean 0 offense so please take none but in my opinion the fact you can get to level 110 in 9 weeks is the reason we shouldn't take your suggestions on board in this thread specifically trying to target the lower levels and more than likely the guys whom have less time on their hands, I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind, am i happy at the moment? absolutely as Chojine said it's the journey and mine is one I enjoy I do wish I could get involved with pvp, although i'm fully understanding I haven't put the hours in yet. As to the drops I'm all for it maybe add a lesser PoD (for mages) to noob mobs it would be awesome if i could get some stuff like that and waiting 6 days for conti to get my wizard set was a ball ache, without a tank I couldn't take wraith in a 14 int set haha, wraiths drop file isn't THAT bad with chances of devils blood ect but Lich lord may aswell be redundant and druid/gazer/evil bric is even worse, once you hit the 38 str armour bought from merc or conti you literally struggle like crazy to get armour or sit around waiting for a crafter to make you a scaled set and banded and so on. The +50 stat thing is annoying I'm not exactly against it but I see no real value to it? Like it literally benefits the extreme players and everyone else is sub par because they don't have the time/tank/upgrades to do it, again Lupi said it's "Easy" to knock up a lvl 100, yes lupi with the gear you have i'm sure it is but for me who's barely able to afford pot runs it ain't so easy.[/quote]
"SHAMAN"Lupi, I mean 0 offense so please take none but in my opinion the fact you can get to level 110 in 9 weeks is the reason we shouldn't take your suggestions on board in this thread specifically trying to target the lower levels and more than likely the guys whom have less time on their hands, I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind, am i happy at the moment? absolutely as Chojine said it's the journey and mine is one I enjoy I do wish I could get involved with pvp, although i'm fully understanding I haven't put the hours in yet.

As to the drops I'm all for it maybe add a lesser PoD (for mages) to noob mobs it would be awesome if i could get some stuff like that and waiting 6 days for conti to get my wizard set was a ball ache, without a tank I couldn't take wraith in a 14 int set haha, wraiths drop file isn't THAT bad with chances of devils blood ect but Lich lord may aswell be redundant and druid/gazer/evil bric is even worse, once you hit the 38 str armour bought from merc or conti you literally struggle like crazy to get armour or sit around waiting for a crafter to make you a scaled set and banded and so on.

The +50 stat thing is annoying I'm not exactly against it but I see no real value to it? Like it literally benefits the extreme players and everyone else is sub par because they don't have the time/tank/upgrades to do it, again Lupi said it's "Easy" to knock up a lvl 100, yes lupi with the gear you have i'm sure it is but for me who's barely able to afford pot runs it ain't so easy.


no offense .. but 10 hours a week playing an mmo .. dont expect huge results. either here on soma or any other game.. edit** you might get some more help with gear and a bit of pot money if u join a guild..... pm @amoeba and ill craft u some nice swords or whatever weps u need.. just ask.. ppl usually glad to help all they can
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="SHAMAN"]Lupi, I mean 0 offense so please take none but in my opinion the fact you can get to level 110 in 9 weeks is the reason we shouldn't take your suggestions on board in this thread specifically trying to target the lower levels and more than likely the guys whom have less time on their hands, I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind, am i happy at the moment? absolutely as Chojine said it's the journey and mine is one I enjoy I do wish I could get involved with pvp, although i'm fully understanding I haven't put the hours in yet. As to the drops I'm all for it maybe add a lesser PoD (for mages) to noob mobs it would be awesome if i could get some stuff like that and waiting 6 days for conti to get my wizard set was a ball ache, without a tank I couldn't take wraith in a 14 int set haha, wraiths drop file isn't THAT bad with chances of devils blood ect but Lich lord may aswell be redundant and druid/gazer/evil bric is even worse, once you hit the 38 str armour bought from merc or conti you literally struggle like crazy to get armour or sit around waiting for a crafter to make you a scaled set and banded and so on. The +50 stat thing is annoying I'm not exactly against it but I see no real value to it? Like it literally benefits the extreme players and everyone else is sub par because they don't have the time/tank/upgrades to do it, again Lupi said it's "Easy" to knock up a lvl 100, yes lupi with the gear you have i'm sure it is but for me who's barely able to afford pot runs it ain't so easy.[/quote] no offense .. but 10 hours a week playing an mmo .. dont expect huge results. either here on soma or any other game.. edit** you might get some more help with gear and a bit of pot money if u join a guild..... pm @amoeba and ill craft u some nice swords or whatever weps u need.. just ask.. ppl usually glad to help all they can[/quote]
"SHAMAN"I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind


Nothing wrong with that not everyone wants to be sat in front of a pc 6+ hours a day anymore. You should be able to feel decent playing when you're able to. You'd be perfectly fine on any other game playing 10 odd hours a week.
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[quote="CARNAGE"][quote="SHAMAN"]I literally want to play 10 hours a week maybe 15 if time permits to unwind[/quote] Nothing wrong with that not everyone wants to be sat in front of a pc 6+ hours a day anymore. You should be able to feel decent playing when you're able to. You'd be perfectly fine on any other game playing 10 odd hours a week.[/quote]
I play 3 hours a week, am level 75 in dsoma... its a slow slog :)
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[quote="JON"]I play 3 hours a week, am level 75 in dsoma... its a slow slog :)[/quote]
I'm lucky if I can get in 3 hours a week. I'll end up retired before I cap on here.
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[quote="JIBBY"]I'm lucky if I can get in 3 hours a week. I'll end up retired before I cap on here.[/quote]
"JIBBY"I'm lucky if I can get in 3 hours a week. I'll end up retired before I cap on here.


Snap😂
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[quote="LINNYI"][quote="JIBBY"]I'm lucky if I can get in 3 hours a week. I'll end up retired before I cap on here.[/quote] Snap😂[/quote]
linny sits at wh though for those 3 hours
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[quote="MINGEPIECE"]linny sits at wh though for those 3 hours[/quote]

 

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