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[quote="SAM0"][quote="DEIMOS"]Axe is never most likely to kill anyone, they have no attack aura to drop damage when they please or when they see the other player low hp, it's very predictable damage and easily outpotted[/quote] A sword/spear hit +aura on an archer along with 1 hit from an axer will kill the archer. A spear hit+aura + 2 archer hits +archer aura wouldn't kill an axer [/quote]

[quote="KEKKET"]Just curious here but there any archers that use proc gear with int build?[/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]The thing you ignored there is the 80+% evasion rate the archer has, it wouldn't happen [/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="KEKKET"]Just curious here but there any archers that use proc gear with int build?[/quote] Thought about it but with max int being quite low and not enough of a good proc set it wouldn't be worth it. Be doing roughly 90-100 dmg a proc and it would only be good against axers[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="DEIMOS"]The thing you ignored there is the 80+% evasion rate the archer has, it wouldn't happen [/quote] Archer doesn't have 80%+ evasion vs sword/spear or even axer if he removes dodge with stone, Also it does happen, just go click on kekkets feed and see the huge number of kills he has on archers since balance patch (killed 19 archers, died to archers 4x) not bad considering axers can't hit them. [/quote]

[quote="KEKKET"]Cant archer spend point like 200 int?[/quote]

[quote="DEIMOS"]Well derailed though, from useful suggestion about mages to full spam about mellee[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="KEKKET"]Cant archer spend point like 200 int?[/quote] Yup but given my poor proc set and only axers being the one worth skilling int for it doesn't feel worth it. Its 1dmg per int over the target for non mages. If proc rings for more proc chance that's another 10 less dmg a hit, I only have ~20% proc set. Might be decent on a knux for killing axers during GVW but even then they don't really hit and just stand on stone being a tank, they could easily drop Str for max wis[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="DEIMOS"]Well derailed though, from useful suggestion about mages to full spam about mellee[/quote] Wasn't me who derailed, kekket the one asking about archer running proc sets. I made valid points about how Hsoma mages struggle just as much in PvP vs archers and you don't see them crying everyday on forum. If they want to be able to cast, they run dex / eva gear along with dodge aura but sacrifice the one bombs. Mages on Dsoma can run dex gear+dodge aura aswell but almost all seem to keep gearing towards the one bomb build. If anything this is worse for Hsoma mages as every melle build char could have bow as a first/second wep and easily switch to use to kill/stop them casting. Atleast on dsoma the 4 melle classes you have a big advantage over can't whip out a bow. (Hsoma mages can run axe for stone aura so this kind of cancels each other out tho) I also pointed out that mages have a disadvantage vs archers, but a massive advantage against 4 other classes [/quote]

[quote="CYA"]every class can use bow granted only the 30 skill bow but still they all stop mages casting[/quote]

[quote="MERLIN"]and while we keep spouting 'one bomb' zombie is insta death on a mage soooo.....[/quote]

[quote="MERLIN"]and thank you brainstorm for just wearing omni and proving a archer is correct outfit can easily tank 2 mages full proc, we never took more than about half his hp[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]and while we keep spouting 'one bomb' zombie is insta death on a mage soooo.....[/quote] Zombie can be insta cured if you don't have the reaction speed of a goldfish, One bombs can't be[/quote]

[quote="SAM0"][quote="MERLIN"]and thank you brainstorm for just wearing omni and proving a archer is correct outfit can easily tank 2 mages full proc, we never took more than about half his hp[/quote] Not sure what point you think it's proving, he tanked 2 low geared mages in MD armour that he'd never get away with using any other time in PvP. Now go watch kekket tank 4 archer and they'll never get him to 50% hp. Does this mean archers need a buff too? [/quote]

[quote="MERLIN"]I love you spouting low gear when you have no clue what anyone is running And my point is anyone can switch their armours to substantially lessen the damage mages do, mages dont have that option, the massive damage received is in the best armour there is[/quote]